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| Why I Hate Gundam | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 7 2011, 06:53 PM (301 Views) | |
| Black Golem | Mar 7 2011, 06:53 PM Post #1 |
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With neither Will alone nor Strength alone
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Yes this is a thread where I rant incoherently about anything and everything that bugs me about Gundam, should be fine entertainment if nothing else, if you have a question you want me to rant about on Gundam feel free to message me via MSN Chapter 1: Why I hate Shinn Asuka Shinn Asuka is maybe the most infuriatingly stupid character since Master Asia and a complete waste of ink and time. So whats wrong with him? Let’s go over it. In 5 easy steps Number 1: Shinn has Stupid irrational hatred of Orb At the beginning of the show Shinn mouths off to Cagalli and Athrun, not only is this stupid considering Cagalli is the head representative of another country and could have adverse effects on PLANT/Orb relations but is also rude and moronic. Once more Shinn blames Orb and the Athha’s for his family’s death or to put it in another way for defending their home. Not only does Shinn forget that Cagalli lost her father in that battle too but also he fails to realize that if the Athha’s hadn’t defended themselves the EA would of walked right into Orb and more than likely killed every Coordinator in Orb there and then including Shinn himself . Therefore, Shinn hates Orb for managing to save him. Yes, his family died and that is terrible but he’s had 2 years of military training to come to terms with this or at least realize Orb did everything they could to keep their people alive. Number 2: Shinn isn’t a good crew mate The Stella incident. In been a total idiotic tool Shinn attacks his own crew mates to return Stella to the EA, I’ll talk more about this selfish move latter but for now let’s look at what he does to get her to Neo. Shinn assaults the Doctor (and Nurse?) of the Minerva people who have probably helped Shinn on more than one occasion, he then with the help of Rey beats up all of the guards in the hanger. SO to help prolong the life of an enemy combatant that he “Loves” he attacks members of his own crew including the doctor that had treated Stella’s wounds in the first place. Then after he is let off as per usual, he has the gall to smugly assume he was right all along, in effect saying "fuck you" to Athrun. Number 3: Shinn is a moron who can’t see past his own little world Shinn tries to kill Kira after Kira fatally wounds Stella. Right so let’s just have a look at why Stella died like that in the first place. Shinn trusting a complete stranger from the EA, gives Stella back to the EA because the complete stranger made a promise “to keep her safe” baring in mind this is the same army Shinn had just found a research base on that showed what the EA are capable off. Naturally within day’s Stella is strapped to the first Destroy unit and is destroying city after city killing thousands of innocent people (but hey! She’s still alive right!). Kira seeing this attempts to stop her but because of not wanting to kill her can only really stall her for now, Shinn then flys in and attacks the cockpit as normal, only to find out that Stella is in side and once more the guy that tell him that? It’s the completely trustable guy in a DARK GRAY MASK Shinn was stupid enough to give Stella back to in the first place! Despite this Shinn manages to talk to Stella and almost gets though to her until she sees the Freedom slowly flying down to see whats happening, at this point Stella flips and starts charging her beam cannon aimed right at Shinn. Seeing that this would kill Shinn and probably finish off Berlin, Kira swoops down and lands a fatal blow to Stella saving the city and Shinn. So yet again Shinn hates the person that saved his life, since if Kira had did nothing Shinn would be dead. Now don’t get me wrong Stella’s fate is unfortunate but Shinn was the one that caused this to happen, if he had just let her slowly slip away peacefully on the Minerva then none of this would of happened. Once more even in the fated battle Shinn could of did things differently, if he had took 5 seconds to tell Kira the situation, Kira might of did things differently. But at the end of the day the fact remains that she had killed thousands of people, but Shinn still gets angry at Kira for "not understanding what's going on", well jackass maybe take 5 fucking seconds to tell him and he might! You had no problem talking with EA pilots in that battle! Once more Shinn does not seem to give a dam about any of the families Stella destroyed though his actions, you know just like his family. Number 4: Shinn is very easily swayed Shinn tries to kill Athrun and Meyrin, and let’s face it if this show was even trying to be realistic then they should of died. This would of caused Cagalli, Kira and all of Athruns friends great pain and suffering, Lunamaria also suffers from this when she believes her sister had been killed. While Shinn did fail at killing them the intent was there and the hypocrisy behind this is condemnable. After the death of Stella Shinn goes on a big thrust for Justice but then tries to kill one of his friends and the sister of another friend and future love interest and his reason for doing this evil act? Rey and Durandal said so, and though he does hesitate before going all evil Seed mode and running them though, he is so easily swayed by the words of Rey that he tries to murder two innocent friends. The bottom line of this point is, despite Shinn’s reason for fighting been the suffering caused by the loss of his family Shinn consistently seems oblivious to the fact that he’s causing (or trying to cause) the same suffering to the loved ones of the people he kills. Genius. Number 5: Shinn is a hypocritical ass hat Shinn vows to destroy Orb… wait what, so after all the suffering he went though when Orb was attacked and his family killed, Shinn decides it would be better for him to be the one pulling the trigger on other innocent people. As outlined in number 1 his hate of Orb is stupid enough the fact he places the blame on Orb for been attacked, so now he makes a vendetta against the entire nation, vowing to be the one that destroys Orb. So if he had his way he would be doing to innocent people Orb exactly what happened to him a few years ago, he is literally continuing the cycle of hatred as Lacus would say. He would be killing innocent people and causing many more the same suffering that he felt and that has tormented him for so long. Does his ignorance and hypocrisy know no fucking bounds! so there we go, ill now end with a clever video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwe2e51iUzE |
![]() http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure "I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato "I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato "I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato "if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma "Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx "No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato "If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo | |
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| Black Golem | Apr 30 2011, 08:55 AM Post #2 |
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Hello again, it's been awhile now when i first put this post it was meant to be a series of post where I ranted about things I disliked about Gundam I even have a nice little list Judau Vs Kamile Why i like one and not the other Moronic Asia G UC Nazis Gundam fans Gundam VS topics Char Clones Boring uninspiring Space battles Early UC and the fucking OYW CCA Char Tomino Strike Freedom the ever evolving MS Seed Destiny The Earth Sphere and how dam boring its becoming Everything at this point it was becoming harder to think about what i liked about Gundam. I think this was mainly stemming from two things 1 Ive been watching more Mecha anime both Real, Super and Hybrid and frankly ive though half of them have been better, I can't remember the last Gundam show that made me go "OH Hell YES!" Like Getter Robo and Marzinger have, or have had such and interesting story as Ideon and Code Gaess have, or have had the cool factor The Big O has, hell I can't remember the last anime never mind Gundam that has actually put together a love story that Ive been interested in like Macross Plus/Frontier. Maybe I'm just board of gundam, now don't get me wrong Gundam is great and excels at what it's meant to do, Sell model kits. And for that its improved and continues to do well Gundam 00 while nothing two amazing is one hell of a toy commercial and it does have its moments. Gundam does what it's meant to do well give use flashy Mecha battles and a vaguely interesting story that manages to go on just too long. Other shows don't out stay there welcome like Gundam does, it tries to be pointlessly complex and then uses other booklets to explain all the crap because it left so many holes and unanswered questions. While other shows don't. Getter and Mazinger start with a bang of violence and awesomeness, they do crap because its cool nothing else and before they out stay there welcome they do a fuck huge explosion of a final and end. they don't try to be 9 different things at once, they just show epic violence with badass characters thats just pure fun to watch and they don't milk it, 13 episodes of pure awesome >>>>>>> 50 Episodes of its ok it's got some highs and some lows. Now 00 has correctly split its self in two half's and its good, but it's not quite there yet. meanwhile Macross Frontiers characters where about 12 times more like able and made me care about them about 5 times more then any Gundam show has so far add to the fact it does a great story and a prefect (if infuriating) love story in a nice to watch 25 episodes, that leave me wanting more, what do i feel when Gundam ends... God thank god its over finally I'd say its the fault of filler and pointless episodic crap they throw into the story to get it to hit the 50 mark but the Big O's first season and GaoGaiGar are basically just episodic episodes for the most part but its an hell of lot more interesting then lets run around the axis ship or lets have this typical underwater battle so we can show off there cool looking Aquatic MS we made I don't hate Gundam I just don't see it as anything special anymore. Now there are a few special Gundams, Turn A and Seed i consider to be top tier, they try to be a bit more then just a toy commercial... but really thats it. maybe 00S2 can surprise me maybe Unicorn won't be that bad maybe the 00 Movie with its aliens will be a breath of fresh air and won't suck like every other Gundam Movie but frankly I don't hold out hope. oh well hopefully the subbers sub the new Macross Movie soon and theres still plenty of other Mecha shows in the sea |
![]() http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure "I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato "I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato "I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato "if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma "Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx "No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato "If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo | |
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