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DWG3 Guide Compendium; Thanks to the Good people at KW ^_^
Topic Started: Dec 21 2010, 10:05 AM (2,738 Views)
Black Golem
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Teir list updated
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"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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tried somethign rather interesting to make a new list, rather then ranking pilots then putting stats I decided to rank each Pilot/MS gave the top (or 2) 500 points then lowered the next pilot/ms stat by 1 all the way don't ended up with some funny stats that I like so much there becoming my official list lol

Pilots
Name--------------------------------------------ATK-----Shot-----DEF-----Total
Knight Gundam----------------------------------200------190-----200-----590
Uso Ewin----------------------------------------195------195-----198-----588
Seabook Arno/Kincaido Nau---------------------193------196-----197-----586
Kira Yamato-------------------------------------183------200-----196-----579
Judau Astha/Gray Stoke-------------------------188------187-----192-----567
Heero Yuy---------------------------------------184------189-----190-----563
Athrun Zala--------------------------------------197------172-----191-----560
Zechs Merquise/Milliardo Peacecraft-------------194------184-----182-----560
Paptimus Scirocco-------------------------------187------191-----179-----557
Katejina Loos------------------------------------181------185-----189-----555
Tieria Erde---------------------------------------159------192-----200-----551
Full Frontal---------------------------------------189------171-----187-----547
Graham Aker-------------------------------------190------175-----180-----545
Setsuna F. Seiei----------------------------------196------159-----185-----540
Garrod Ran---------------------------------------172------179-----188-----539
Amuro Ray---------------------------------------179------181-----178-----538
Gym Gingaham-----------------------------------191------166-----181-----538
Haman Karn--------------------------------------171------197-----168-----536
Loran Cehack/Laura Rolla------------------------168------169-----199-----536
Lockon Stratos-----------------------------------155------194-----184-----533
Domon Kasshu-----------------------------------200------145-----186-----531
Schwarz Bruder/Kyoji Kasshu---------------------198------150-----183-----531
Ribbons Almark----------------------------------174-------190----166-----530
Banagher Links-----------------------------------177------188-----161----526
Kamille Bidan-------------------------------------178------193----155-----526
Shinn Asuka--------------------------------------192------180----152-----524
Allelujah Haptism---------------------------------185------167----170-----522
Asia----------------------------------------------199------149----174-----522
Jerid Mesa----------------------------------------167------158----194-----519
Marida Cruz---------------------------------------173------199----147-----519
Elle Vianno---------------------------------------148-------173----195-----516
Treize Khushrenada-------------------------------186-------160----169-----515
Char Aznable/Quattro Bajeena--------------------180-------170----164-----514
Puru Two------------------------------------------163------183----167-----513
Duo Maxwell--------------------------------------182-------152----175-----509
Trowa Barton--------------------------------------157------198----154-----509
Elpeo Puru----------------------------------------149-------182----177-----508
Roux Louka---------------------------------------160-------186----160-----506
Beecha Oleg--------------------------------------166-------162----176-----504
Emma Sheen--------------------------------------156-------174----171-----501
Kai Shiden----------------------------------------151--------177----173----501
Kou Uraki-----------------------------------------162--------178----159----499
Hayato Kobayashi---------------------------------146-------176-----172----494
Anavel Gato---------------------------------------170-------161-----162----493
Sochie Heim---------------------------------------150-------147-----193----490
Yazan Gable---------------------------------------176-------154-----156----486
Lunamaria Hawke----------------------------------169-------156-----153----478
Dozle Zabi-----------------------------------------165-------148-----163----476
Glemy Toto----------------------------------------161-------164-----151----476
Ramba Ral-----------------------------------------175-------151-----150----476
Four Murasame------------------------------------154-------168-----146----468
M'Quve-------------------------------------------164--------153-----149----466
Rosamia Badam-----------------------------------158--------163-----145----466
Cecily Fairchild------------------------------------153-------155------157----465
Sarah Zabiarov-------------------------------------152-------165-----148----465
Reccoa Londe--------------------------------------147--------157-----158---462
Lacus Clyne---------------------------------------145--------146-----165----456


this is my harshest list yet but with the way I did it it's probably my most fairest as well
the MS list is no different in that rather then limiting myself to tech stats I did it taking tech and the show into account

Name--------------------------------------------Melee-----Shot-----DEF-----ARM-----MOVE-----Thrust-----Total
SYSTEM ∀-99 (WD-M01) ∀ Gundam---------------470-----500-----500-----499-----497-----497-----2963
CONCEPT-X 6-1-2 Turn X-------------------------498-----488-----482-----500-----498-----496-----2962
Knight Gundam-------------------------------------500-----482-----500-----500-----483-----492-----2957
XXXG-00W0 Wing Gundam Zero--------------------487-----495-----495-----496-----486-----490-----2949
Musha MKII----------------------------------------499-----483-----485-----489-----489-----500-----2945
ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam---------------483-----500-----489-----474-----499-----494-----2939
LM314V21 Victory 2 Gundam----------------------472-----497-----499-----470-----500-----500-----2938
MSZ-010 ZZ Gundam-------------------------------493----- 498-----496-----492-----459-----488-----2926
ZGMF-X42S Destiny Gundam-----------------------485-----485-----488-----469-----500-----495-----2922
NZ-666 Kshatriya----------------------------------489-----499-----478-----493-----473-----485-----2917
GN-008 Seravee Gundam---------------------------482-----493-----497-----488-----487-----469-----2916
Musha Gundam--------------------------------------500-----435-----498-----498-----484-----493-----2908
F91 Gundam F91------------------------------------477-----490-----491-----465-----485-----498-----2906
GN-0000+GNR-010 00 Raiser-------------------495-----460-----494-----481-----496-----477-----2903
GN-007 Arios Gundam------------------------------484-----478-----487-----475-----493-----486-----2903

CB-0000G/C Reborns Gundam----------------------476 -----492-----477-----484-----495-----476-----2900
PMX-003 The O-------------------------------------479-----489-----473-----491-----490-----473-----2895
MSN-06S Sinanju------------------------------------490-----468-----480-----479-----488-----468-----2873
ZM-S24G Gedlav------------------------------------475-----479-----492----- 472-----462-----491-----2871
OZ-13MS Gundam Epyon----------------------------494-----425-----484-----497-----477-----489-----2866
RX-0 Unicorn Gundam-------------------------------486-----487-----472-----476-----474-----467-----2862
GN-006 Cherudim Gundam--------------------------429-----494-----486-----483-----492-----475-----2859
ZGMF-X19A ∞ Justice Gundam----------------------491-----467-----490 -----471-----476-----464-----2859

GF13-001NHII Master Gundam---------------------496-----434-----493-----486-----478-----471-----2858
OZ-00MS2 Tallgeese II-----------------------------469-----486-----454-----490-----458-----499-----2856
RX-93 n Gundam-------------------------------------481-----470-----481-----477-----475-----466-----2850
GNX-Y901TW Susanowo-----------------------------492-----431-----476-----473-----494-----474-----2840
GX-9901-DX Gundam Double X----------------------478-----496-----455-----482-----464-----465-----2840

MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam------------------------------461-----472-----471-----464-----480-----487-----2835
MSN-04 Sazabi--------------------------------------480-----471-----479-----480-----461-----462-----2833
GF13-017NJII Burning Gundam----------------------497-----428-----449-----485-----479-----483-----2821
NRX-055 Baund Doc---------------------------------463-----466-----474-----478-----456-----484-----2821

RX-78GP01-Fb Gundam Full Vernian "Zephyranthes"-459-----463-----468-----460-----491-----479-----2820
AMX-107 Bawoo--------------------------------------464-----473-----470-----461-----466-----482-----2816
RX-78GP02A Gundam "Physalis"---------------------458-----439-----483-----467-----482-----470-----2799
XXXG-01D2 Gundam Deathscythe Hell----------------488-----430-----451-----494-----463-----463-----2789
AMX-004 Qubeley-----------------------------------466-----476-----447-----459-----469-----459-----2776
MSN-00100 Hyaku Shiki-----------------------------471-----459-----475-----468 -----450 -----453 -----2776

AMX-004G (AMX-017) Qubeley Mass Production Type467-----477-----445-----456-----470-----460-----2775
AMX-004-2 Qubeley Mark II--------------------------468-----474-----448-----457-----467-----457-----2771
AMX-004-3 Qubeley Mark II--------------------------465-----475-----446-----458-----468-----458-----2770
XXXG-01H2 Gundam Heavyarms Kai------------------431-----491-----456-----495-----460-----435-----2768
RX-160 Byalant---------------------------------------453-----469-----439-----450-----481-----472-----2764
PMX-001 Palace Athene------------------------------434-----481-----453-----487-----445-----461-----2761
ZGMF-1017 GINN------------------------------------450-----480-----460-----451-----455-----455-----2751
RGM-89 Jegan----------------------------------------460-----458-----469-----453-----454-----454-----2748
MSN-02 Zeong----------------------------------------430-----484-----450-----463-----465-----448-----2740
MSA-003 Nemo---------------------------------------455-----456-----465-----452-----452-----451-----2731
RX-178 Gundam Mark II Titans------------------------457-----462-----464-----449-----449-----450-----2731

RX-178 Gundam Mark II------------------------------456-----461-----463-----448-----448-----449-----2725
AMX-006 Gaza-D-------------------------------------438-----464-----437-----433-----472-----480-----2724
RX-139 Hambrabi-------------------------------------462-----437-----444-----434-----457-----481-----2715
RX-78-2 Gundam-------------------------------------454-----450-----466-----462-----442-----437-----2711
MS-14S (YMS-14) Gelgoog Commander Type---------474-----447-----462-----439-----440-----443-----2705
RMS-154 Barzam-------------------------------------452-----465-----438-----444-----451-----452-----2702
MS-14A Gelgoog-------------------------------------473-----446-----461-----438-----439-----442-----2699
Dark Army--------------------------------------------446-----444-----440-----447-----471-----446-----2694
RMS-099 (MSA-099) Rick Dias-----------------------449-----453-----435-----455-----446-----445-----2683
RMS-179/RGM-79R GM II----------------------------444-----452-----459-----443-----441-----441-----2680
AMX-003 (MMT-1) Gaza-C---------------------------435-----457-----427-----427-----453-----478-----2677
RMS-108 Marasai-------------------------------------445-----455-----436-----445-----447-----447-----2675
RGM-79GS GM Command Space Type-----------------443-----451-----458-----442-----437-----439-----2670
RX-77-2 Guncannon-----------------------------------427-----448-----467-----466-----428-----431-----2667
RGM-79 GM-------------------------------------------440-----445-----457-----441-----435-----432-----2650
YMS-15 Gyan ----------------------------------------451-----436-----452-----440-----436-----434-----2649
MS-07H Gouf Flight Test Type------------------------439-----440-----432-----437-----444-----456-----2648
RMS-106 Hizack--------------------------------------442-----454-----433-----431-----443-----444-----2647
MS-09 Dom-------------------------------------------437-----441-----431-----454-----438-----440-----2641
MSM-07S Z'Gok Commander Type--------------------448-----443-----429-----436-----431-----430-----2617
MSM-07 Z'Gok----------------------------------------447-----442-----428-----435-----430-----429-----2611
MS-06S Zaku II Commander Type---------------------433-----433-----443-----430-----433-----438-----2610
MS-07B Gouf------------------------------------------441-----427-----441-----432-----434-----433-----2608
MSM-04 Acguy----------------------------------------436-----449-----434-----428-----429-----428-----2604
MS-06F Zaku II----------------------------------------432-----432-----442-----429-----432-----436-----2603
AMX-109 Kapool---------------------------------------428-----438-----430-----446-----427-----427-----2596
MS-06V Zaku Tank-------------------------------------426-----426-----426-----426-----426-----426-----2556
RB-79 Ball---------------------------------------------425-----429-----425-----425-----425-----425-----2554
Edited by Black Golem, Mar 20 2011, 07:10 PM.
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"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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Tier list updated along with Lords projections on what could happen (the little arrows)
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http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure
"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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vids added for each build that has one
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http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure
"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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List update, Musha moved to S rank, can be the strongest MS Ive seen with its GSP one shotting Knight, but Grand says it suffers from same problem as Unicorn
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http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure
"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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finally, errr first Final DLC Suit GN-008 Seravee Gundam added to the Teir list along with vid. A quick heads up Musha may become God rank, with V2, DX, Tallgeese II and Physalis may become S rank

also updated my stat lists
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http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure
"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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edit, 4 more vids Gedlav, Gyan, Jegan and Marasai (O_o)

list edited, New God rank, new S-ranks, New B ranks and New C ranks

and finally some vids of the Final DLC Mission

Turn X [Long Live True Gundam Warrior] (Sonic Boost): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQTjv2566zA
Zeong [Long Live True Gundam Warrior] (Sonic Boost): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EDQnOcnPdo
Kapool [Long Live True Gundam Warrior] (Sonic Boost): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUiJ3Wvr8Kc (you will need some patients to watch this)
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http://zeiksanimereviews.wordpress.com/ Current Watch though and review: G Gundam/Macross 7/CG Akito the Exiled /Jojos Bizarre Adventure
"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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that time of the week I'm afraid, I bring two new vids and some possible changes to the list, Strike Freedom might be moving up to S class( see below and look around for some Overdrive builds on youtube)

conversely Nemo might be dropping to C

anyway first vid is Reborns http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOySRZOMk-E - looks good, move set seems a bit quirky though hopefully its not as annoying as Master

the other vid is what Strike Freedom can do on a good day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HwB_sR_iOY very fluky reminds me of the 1:26 TDWG run from DWG2

also because it's the game I'm currently hyping a fun G Gen cut scene! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5P0onkSuXk
I'd kill to see that in English

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"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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Strike Freedom moved to S rank after more tests. RX moved back up and Zeta and Goldy moved down to B rank

latest from Grand's testing

RX-78: Has bad SPs, but a good dash string. Wondering if I should put it back in A, since it's more less the mirror of Char's Zaku II.

Zeta, Hyaku Shiki: I've been thinking these guys belong more in B territory; Zeta in particular has a bigger issue with Beam Confuse getting blocked than I realized. Had it blocked about five times consecutively in two runs in a row, which just piles up the cleartime immensely. Hyaku Shiki has a similar problem, except it just gets dodged.

Strike Freedom: Thanks to Airmaster + ZRS + HT/Temp, Strike Freedom is capable of stupid cleartimes similar to the God-tiers. Problem is, it's so easy to get screwed over. Meter reliance is one thing, but without the attachment space to slip in Speed Star or something, it has no way of building meter safely when it's being harassed by aces. None of the God-tiers have this problem, either because they DO have methods for getting meter in such a situation (Turn X, Musha, God)... can chain meter through post-SP modes (Susanowo, Knight)... or aren't meter dependent in the first place (Zeong).

SF has C2, C6, and Dash Charge. The first of those gets dodged too easily and can force a disadvantageous rearrange of enemy aces, the second is too late in the attack string, and the third has utterly stupid recovery time that will get you killed. But they're usable...

... which is why SF is a puzzle to me. How much of SF's pitfalls is just me sucking? Safety's one thing, but on the other hand if played perfectly SF doesn't feel much different from any of the other God-tiers. I'm gonna wait for the English community's input on this, though I have no problem with lifting it up to S for now, since its damage potential is genuinely ridiculous.

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"I, too, am a true Gundam Dynasty Warrior!" - Kira Yamato
"I will fight with this sword! Knight Gundam, Launch!" - Kira Yamato
"I've finally come to understand what I'm really fighting for." - Kira Yamato
"if theres a hole a guys just got to be ready to thrust into it!" - Ryoma
"Beyond the beaten path lies the ultimate end. It matters not who you are...Death awaits you." - Nyx
"No one's going to decide my future. No matter how hard, I'll choose it myself!" - Kira Yamato
"If a god gets in our way, he gets cut down! If a devil gets in our way, he gets shot up!" -Ken and Ryo
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