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| guild525 | May 20 2010, 03:16 PM Post #1 |
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I'd rather not clog up where our servant's sheet is hence the topic :P. Anyway, straight to the questions! Servant Questions: Q: Is the 2 scout range passive and Mana can see two areas from where she is? (Ex. She can see from the Pokemon Center, the Business District and Estate?) Q: How many actions does Bartering take? Q: Can we get a full list of supplies we have before the war starts? >_> Q: The Magic Displacement Charm effect wasn’t changed to reflect your answer…does that mean it’s really only Mana who escapes? Q: If we use Gun Kata to target a servant and their master, since the servant naturally tanks for the master…would they take the damage twice? Or due to the description of the skill, would they be able to instantly avoid it? Q: How long does the strain from Cassopeia last? Q: Would the Snipes hit before the movement phase since the action phase seems to be after movement? Q: Does Magical Resistance rise if we use the CS to raise Mana’s stats two ranks? Master Questions: Q: The Crossroad Barrier takes an action to make right? Q: Do enemies take an action with dispelling the Crossroad Barrier? Q: Does the Crossroad Barrier stop movement through things like Cabs? Q: Since Noble Phantasms aren’t affected by Heavenly Tracker, does that mean Sayoko ignores sealing them and waits for regular skills? Q: Does the Barrier form of Suppression reduce Mana and Sayoko’s stats as well? Q: Does Suppression barrier form reduce enemy Master’s stats? Q: Sayoko can Recursive Revision the “Survive” Command Spell so that the EX stats can be switched to another right? Q: Can Suppression reduce EX stats? Gameplay Questions: Q: Does the “Strike First!” CS transcend turn order? Q: If it doesn’t, does the Stun Grenade get priority over it? Q: So according to the CS rule, if a servant’s stat is A in a particular stat and you use the CS to boost your stats two ranks, you only get it from A to A+? Edited by Inversion Impulse, May 22 2010, 10:13 AM.
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| guild525 | May 20 2010, 03:20 PM Post #2 |
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Also, Soul might as well mention this to see if you know or not: Scep confirmed already to everyone that he is apart of team Caster and Caster is Azaka Kokuto. Edited by guild525, May 20 2010, 03:20 PM.
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| TatsumiKanade | May 20 2010, 04:35 PM Post #3 |
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Q: Is the 2 scout range passive and Mana can see two areas from where she is? (Ex. She can see from the Pokemon Center, the Business District and Estate?) It is passive Q: How many actions does Bartering take? 1 support action Q: Can we get a full list of supplies we have before the war starts? >_> You start out with a full list of supplies. However, you start with default ammo for choices. So if you want FMJ or Silenced bullets. You'll have to buy that on your own Q: The Magic Displacement Charm effect wasn’t changed to reflect your answer…does that mean it’s really only Mana who escapes? Both Mana and Master escape Q: If we use Gun Kata to target a servant and their master, since the servant naturally tanks for the master…would they take the damage twice? Or due to the description of the skill, would they be able to instantly avoid it? You can only target a Master if they have no form of protection, so yes, they would avoid the second hit. Q: How long does the strain from Cassopeia last? 3 Turns. Q: Would the Snipes hit before the movement phase since the action phase seems to be after movement? No, Snipe is used during the offensive phase Q: Does Magical Resistance rise if we use the CS to raise Mana’s stats two ranks? Yes, the CS was changed to reflect this |
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| TatsumiKanade | May 20 2010, 04:40 PM Post #4 |
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Q: The Crossroad Barrier takes an action to make right? Yes, during the Support phase Q: Do enemies take an action with dispelling the Crossroad Barrier? Yes. It takes place during the support phase of the next turn. The first turn the enemy comes across the barrier, they can not do anything. Q: Does the Crossroad Barrier stop movement through things like Cabs? Q: Since Noble Phantasms aren’t affected by Heavenly Tracker, does that mean Sayoko ignores sealing them and waits for regular skills? Yes. Q: Does the Barrier form of Suppression reduce Mana and Sayoko’s stats as well? No Q: Does Suppression barrier form reduce enemy Master’s stats? Yes Q: Sayoko can Recursive Revision the “Survive” Command Spell so that the EX stats can be switched to another right? Yes. Wow, I'm surprised you thought of this. Q: Can Suppression reduce EX stats? Yes. |
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| guild525 | May 20 2010, 05:04 PM Post #5 |
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Can Mana BCTL herself? Why, yes she can. BCTL Bullets supply is used for each target shot in a use I'm guessing? That is correct Does Body Shot Aim at the leg and Rakansen for limping stack? That is also correct What does "interfering" with enemy scouting entail? (From the Chaff Grenade) Scouting action becomes impossible. If "Strike Quick!" and a Noble Phantasm are used, does the actions from "Strike Quick!" get used up? I'll get back to you on that. Edited by TatsumiKanade, May 20 2010, 05:25 PM.
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| TatsumiKanade | May 20 2010, 05:25 PM Post #6 |
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Oh, I accidentally edited your post instead of replying. Sorry about that. |
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| Inimchan | May 22 2010, 10:14 AM Post #7 |
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This is now your thread for posting moves and discussion crap |
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| guild525 | May 22 2010, 11:11 AM Post #8 |
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Q: Can stats that are boosted via the "Do Your Best!" Command Spell reach EX through other means? Q: Does disabling Akimbo take an action? Q: When it says takes one turn to disable Blast Seal, does that mean both actions if a servant does it? Q: How exactly will Snipe work if it's in the normal action phase? (I mean how would we know who we're sniping/if anyone will be at the location we're sniping?) Q: Gun Kata's Debilitation and Limping will stack with Body Shot Aim's Debilitation and Limping right? Q: How does Magical Resistance work? (Ex. If say Mana's magical resistance was to rise to EX...how would I know if her Magical Resistance is 76% or 100%?) Q: Can Basic Shot target the same person twice? (It says Maximum target 1-2) Q: Can Mana target a servant's master with basic shot and the servant to force them to take double damage? Q: What exactly are the health benefits from civilian consumption? Is it the same as the mana benefit you get? Q: Am I reading how criticals work right? (Ex. If say the base damage was 55 and Mana's luck was EX, the calculations for a critical basic shot would be 20 + [20 * (10 * 5)] = 1020 damage.) Q: Are abilities like Body Shot Aim and Magic Displacement Charm usable in Akimbo? (Body Shot Aim being close range I mean) Q: Do we get actions immediately after picking our location? (Can we move on Night 0?) Q: Does the Darker than Black Observatory see places only linearly? (As in it can see the Estate but not Baccano Line diagonal from it?) Edited by guild525, May 22 2010, 12:42 PM.
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| TatsumiKanade | May 22 2010, 12:56 PM Post #9 |
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Q: Can stats that are boosted via the "Do Your Best!" Command Spell reach EX through other means? Yes, unless otherwise stated in a skill Q: Does disabling Akimbo take an action? Free Action. Q: When it says takes one turn to disable Blast Seal, does that mean both actions if a servant does it? Changed it in the description Q: How exactly will Snipe work if it's in the normal action phase? (I mean how would we know who we're sniping/if anyone will be at the location we're sniping?) I changed the effect, It now takes place during the support phase, but using Snipe relinquishes your ability to retaliate against an enemy attack in your area Q: Gun Kata's Debilitation and Limping will stack with Body Shot Aim's Debilitation and Limping right? Yes Q: How does Magical Resistance work? (Ex. If say Mana's magical resistance was to rise to EX...how would I know if her Magical Resistance is 76% or 100%?) Magical Resistance has no Letter Ranks. The command spell raises Mag Resistance by a certain percent Q: Can Basic Shot target the same person twice? (It says Maximum target 1-2) No Q: Can Mana target a servant's master with basic shot and the servant to force them to take double damage? No Q: What exactly are the health benefits from civilian consumption? Is it the same as the mana benefit you get? 5% of Maximium health.Thanks for reminding me Q: Am I reading how criticals work right? (Ex. If say the base damage was 55 and Mana's luck was EX, the calculations for a critical basic shot would be 20 + [20 * (10 * 5)] = 1020 damage.) You'll have to ask Inversion about that. Q: Are abilities like Body Shot Aim and Magic Displacement Charm usable in Akimbo? (Body Shot Aim being close range I mean) Body Shot Aim is not able to be used, even close range, as it used with a Sniper. Magic Displacement Charm is usable. Q: Do we get actions immediately after picking our location? (Can we move on Night 0?) Yes Q: Does the Darker than Black Observatory see places only linearly? (As in it can see the Estate but not Baccano Line diagonal from it?) It locates all areas connected within at least 3 areas via a black line of the Darker than Black Observatory. Edited by TatsumiKanade, May 22 2010, 12:58 PM.
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| Inimchan | May 22 2010, 01:35 PM Post #10 |
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Critical equation: Damage from Physical/Magical Attack + [Damage from Physical/Magical Attack * (User Luck Value * 5)] If she deals 55 damage after END calculations then: 55 + [55 * (0.1 since 10% in decimal value is just that * 5)] = 82.5 |
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| guild525 | May 22 2010, 07:51 PM Post #11 |
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What would Mana gain when Sniping if Sayoko Recursive Revision'd her Strength to A via swapping Luck with it? Are things like Clash of Heroes on the Ninth Holy Grail War otwikia still going to take place? What about staying in the area and gaining defensive parameters? |
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| KaisenSan | May 22 2010, 08:30 PM Post #12 |
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Mana's Str when sniping is B+ (the Str value for B+ is greater than A), so using Recursive Revision for sniping would actually decrease the damage output. In other words, you'd give up some damage for a bit more luck in this case. The wiki page is extremely outdated, so it would be better to ignore those and refer to the rules topic. |
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| guild525 | May 22 2010, 09:42 PM Post #13 |
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Sayoko and Mana will start at the Darker than Black Observatory. Sayoko will Crossroad Barrier if no one is there. Mana will BCTL any hostile parties against Archer that are present. Mana and Sayoko will attempt to engage in Communications with any party there. Sayoko will Crossroad Barrier so long as there are no hostile parties. Sayoko will use Heavenly Tracker on the first harmful ability to hit Mana. Assuming there are more hostile parties against Archer than Mana can BCTL, she will BCTL in this priority: Berserker Saber Lancer Rider Assassin Caster |
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| guild525 | May 23 2010, 02:33 PM Post #14 |
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Sayoko didn't Crossroad Barrier? >_> Edit: Oh sorry, didn't know it was placed at the bottom. :p Edit2: Looks like I didn't fully understand the effects of the Crossroad Barrier. Thought it was an entire area, but it still is pretty good. ![]() Guess the Concert Grounds will be next... Edit3: Given that we've spotted 4 teams and are 1 ourselves that means there are 2 teams at the Starlight Crossing....or at the very least one. Maybe Team Assassin starts of Presence Concealed? ![]() Anyway, I'm surprised that no one else picked the Darker than Black Observatory to start off with seeing as how you can see the whole map but Starlight Crossing
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| TatsumiKanade | May 23 2010, 03:03 PM Post #15 |
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I made one final edit to Sayoko's Crossroad Barrier. Sorry about the change, but it was to prevent spammage since I overlooked one detail. With how it was, you could conditional to replace a barrier if an enemy broke through, meaning you could continually blockade one pathway from one enemy if you knew his whereabouts. |
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| guild525 | May 23 2010, 05:20 PM Post #16 |
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Alright few more questions: Q: On the action servants and masters get: That means servants get two actions a turn but can't use an offensive action twice in one turn or a support twice while Masters get only one, either offensive or support? Q: Does Blast Seal take Sayoko's actions each turn for the 3 turns? Q: Can we BCTL people in different areas in one action? Q: Can we delay an action past their phase? (Say delaying a support to a normal action phase) Q: Are locations given in the Status update the starting locations of everyone? Given the fact that there appears to be multiple parties at the Ortensia Broadcasting, one would think we'd spot them moving there unless we aren't given the locations of where servants move but where they are... Q: Is breaking a contract a free action? And do servants have a say in breaking contracts? Q: Is recontracting a free action? Q: What happens to masterless servants? Q: Do Command Spells still apply even after you've broken your contract with your servant? (Ex. Do Your Best! and then breaking the contract with your servant?) Edited by guild525, May 23 2010, 06:19 PM.
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| guild525 | May 23 2010, 06:32 PM Post #17 |
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Participants: greengravy294 guild525 mcnugget Mecasonic PsiOpSeven Randerith RequisiteMartyr SceptileSolarbeam Shadow Soul_Devour StarfishHeat tigerjackhammer Touphi Violent_Pacifist Posting it here because I don't want to keep searching for it <_< |
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| Soul Devour | May 23 2010, 07:55 PM Post #18 |
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Night 2 moves: -Sayako Crossroad barriers the Cosplay Cafe enterance. -Team Archer will attempt to establish communications with any teams and will accept any alliances offered. Conversely, Team Archer will ask any teams that appear for an alliance. -Mana will use BCTL on any hostile parties in the following order: Berserker Saber Lancer Rider Assassin Caster -Mana and Sayako will end their turn with a spot of tea if no one at all scouts or enters the Observatory. |
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| guild525 | May 25 2010, 04:35 PM Post #19 |
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Night 1 Two people walking through the Business District. Both were young enough to be mistaken for siblings, the silver-haired boy walking ahead of the small girl while she clutched a stuffed animal in her arms. She saw two girls just moving into the Hakurei Shrine. One had dark blue hair that nearly blended in with the night. The other appeared light redish in both hair color and clothes, and she appeared to be carrying something on her back. Even closer still were two more in the nearby Concert Grounds. Both appeared to be wearing robes, and both had dark colored hair. Now looking to the east, Mana saw yet another pair at the Theme Park. One had pinkish hair and wore something of the same color. The other had light, golden hair and wore clothes that seemed foreign to the region. The final pair at the Arcade consisted of two others. There was a guy with white hair and a long, red coat carrying a heavy blade of some kind. His companion was a girl with short, pale red hair, carrying an equally intimidating bladed weapon. |
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| guild525 | May 26 2010, 07:20 PM Post #20 |
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Noticed a team at the Valkyria Camp, Concert Grounds(Already scouted), 3 teams at the Business District, and a team at the Millennium Castle. At the Camp, you scouted out a tall girl wearing a brown overcoat. And a blue haired girl with red eyes At the Castle, you scouted out a tall man with Silver hair carrying a broadsword and a young girl carrying a long blade. At the Business District, you found the same Silver haired boy and the girl with the doll, and two new groups. One consisted of the same young woman with the smaller girl dressed in red-pinkish armor you scouted at the Baccano Line. Archer moved to the Concert Grounds and located a team of two girls, one wearing heavy robes and the other wearing a light black robe, as if to allow more movement. Went back without being noticed. The new team was a group of 3 consisting of a young woman with a heavy coat and a guy and girl, both with light blue hair and regal armor. Edited by TatsumiKanade, May 26 2010, 07:26 PM.
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| TatsumiKanade | May 26 2010, 07:32 PM Post #21 |
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I added something in the update I forgot to add before. Sorry about that. |
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| TatsumiKanade | May 26 2010, 09:06 PM Post #22 |
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edit: Ignore what was previously said
Edited by TatsumiKanade, May 26 2010, 10:55 PM.
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| Soul Devour | May 28 2010, 12:16 PM Post #23 |
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Well guild, this looks like this is the best way I can communicate until Monday night, and the times when I can be on until then are pretty unrealiable. But I'll do my best to at least see what kind of moves you make and possibly give some input >_> |
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