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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 10:45 PM Post #551 |
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I say we attempt to. Even if we raise a rank right now, it won't really be too helpful. I mean a + to all stats is great and all but it's nothing too tideturning. EDIT: If we do one round Caster, that saves a CS for Avenger as well Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 20 2010, 10:47 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 10:51 PM Post #552 |
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Yep. I'll be making our move now then. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:00 PM Post #553 |
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Just one point I have inquiries on. Based off this update in Night 16 - Rider summons and mounts Red Dragon Archfiend; it rains meteors on Archer (78), Lancer (63.7), Lelouch (67), Caster (60.4), Berserker (78), Neuro (73.6), Assassin (78). - Assassin's Spell Break activates, and cancels her Time Sign "Private Square" and Focus. - Lelouch dies. - Assassin's Master goes to claim his Command Spells at the same time Lancer's Master does; Assassin's Master is just a bit faster, so he gets two and she gets one. - Assassin's Master psychic blasts Lancer (0). Gendo ripped off Command Spells and still had actions. After healing Rider this turn, since Neuro died.........what would you say to healing Rider then rip off some command spells from Neuro before Caster eats Neuro since you have EX Agi still. Or would you prefer an all-out attack |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:11 PM Post #554 |
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Add anything you want Cross or point out any flaws. This move has to be super extensive. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:12 PM Post #555 |
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Scarlet died last turn since Toma punched him out |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:14 PM Post #556 |
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Neuro gave his CSes to Ange. Ange has around~ 8 CSes if I'm not mistaken. |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:15 PM Post #557 |
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Ah, my fail. I was under the impression Scarlet was still alive :(. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:15 PM Post #558 |
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What the....? 8 CS's......wow.....that's insane. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:17 PM Post #559 |
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Wait a second....shouldn't he have 1 at least since he had a contract with Saber and you need at least 1 to have a contract |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:18 PM Post #560 |
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Yeah. I'm kind of scared of them for that reason since they can theoretically stall out with CSes for 7 turns if they wanted to. Anyway, added stealing CS's |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:18 PM Post #561 |
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This was done after Saber died. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:21 PM Post #562 |
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Well, if they stall for 7 turns with a Focus on X or Give it Your All, they can't spike their attack to EX. |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:24 PM Post #563 |
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Focus on X won't be that useful. Also Double Meteor seems really appealing to me if we know we can live that long. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:26 PM Post #564 |
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Yeah, the ideal situation would be to Meteor/Trap Card her. But we'll have to see how things work out. The only way I see "Give it Your All" be any much use is after 2 times since she doesn't have 2 people (as far as I know) to do it. Even then, we could run and she would have wasted some Command Spells |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:28 PM Post #565 |
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Yep. I hope the next update is as good as this one =). |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:32 PM Post #566 |
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Here's my prediction next turn: Best Case Scenario: - Caster is one rounded - Master do minimal damage to us and Toma misses so he doesn't drain mana - Reality Marble is still up Medium and more likely Scenario: - Caster is VERY weakened - Marble is still up - Masters do minimal damage Worst Case Scenario - Marble Shatters - Rider kills 1 or 2 stakes by going first with EX Strength - Eva's master uses a "Focus on Magical Attack" CS on Caster - Eva uses the last of her mana to pull some move off - Rider gets injured - Avenger gangs up on Rider with a "Focus on Strength" CS with 6 Stakes and unleashes some 6-man Noble Phantasm that is strength based on us - RNG hates us and causes a minimal amount of dodging Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 20 2010, 11:33 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:33 PM Post #567 |
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It is within the realm of possibility that Eva dies from mana burn. I should probably put that in the moves. :o |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:34 PM Post #568 |
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True, that would be kind of sad though after all this, just to die from Mana Burn |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:47 PM Post #569 |
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A few updates with Eva's death in consideration. Everything still the same. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:48 PM Post #570 |
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*glances over* Alright, but good point. If Eva is dead and the Marble is up, we should grab some mana as the Masters pose a minor threat, even when combined |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 20 2010, 11:49 PM Post #571 |
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You're right, there is 1 guest.....how strange |
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| guild525 | Apr 20 2010, 11:54 PM Post #572 |
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Guests usually don't have access to hidden boards unless they already know the url. It'd have to be Serpit or Psi but neither of them are on at this time.... :\ Anyway, I doubt any of the masters can hit us which is a good thing. |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 02:09 PM Post #573 |
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Grr... Looks like we have to revise our plans now. It seems that Rider has to dismount RDA which prevents doubling which is pretty dumb. I guess if we wanted to sacrifice RDA, the Bike would be good but still not worth it because EX agility is too good. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:11 PM Post #574 |
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So should we just save us Gendo's command spell then? No point since we can't do anything with EX Strength |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:12 PM Post #575 |
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Maybe another Rank increase to all our stats? |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:14 PM Post #576 |
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Two Options A) "Give it Your All" CS right now to raise rank B) Save it for "Focus on Magical Defense" next turn to brace for Caster's NP and use our last one on Avenger in someway EDIT: I would really really rather NOT dismount Red Demon's since it's too good right now. WAAAYYY too good. Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 03:15 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:16 PM Post #577 |
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A "Give It Your All" seems like the best idea so far. We'll get A++++ Mag Defense and A+++ Endurance with our Magic Card boost. And we can save our last CS for something else in case it's necessary like a "Shake It Off" CS. Edited by guild525, Apr 21 2010, 03:16 PM.
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:16 PM Post #578 |
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Alright A+++ is fine. Really, how many of those things do we have on....this one wlll be 3 right? |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:20 PM Post #579 |
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Yep. We'll probably be extremely hard to kill with our beastly evasion and heals which Lancer lacked. It ensures our survival, basically. But maybe we should consume now since all our damage options aren't great? Or should we continue with the plan to nail them with 60 physical damage. Caster will take 60~ish damage if we hit her twice and a CS in END will screw us over if Avenger/Caster do that. On the subject of Meteors, is it just me or did Avenger not take any damage from the Meteors? |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:20 PM Post #580 |
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Seriously who is the Guest? :_: |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:22 PM Post #581 |
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They got desummoned before we pulled out Red Demon's. - All remaining Stakes are desummoned. - Lancer's Master uses a CS on Lancer: "Give it your all!", boosting all stats one rank. - Lancer's Master breaks Lancer's contract. - Red contracts Lancer. - Red uses a CS on Lancer: "Give it your all!", boosting all stats one rank. - Red breaks Lancer's contract. - Lancer's Master contracts Lancer. - Derek uses a CS on Rider: "Focus on Luck!", boosting his Luck to EX. - Assassin's Master uses a CS on Assassin: "Screw the Rules!" - Assassin uses Time Sign "Private Square", lowering the AGI and Luck of everyone not her team by three ranks. - Assassin uses The World. Time stops for everyone but Assassin. - Time resumes; Lelouch looks heavily injured. - Sacchin activates Depletion Garden; everyone in the area is trapped inside a beautiful 'Eden'. No other effects are immediately present. - Rider uses a Magic Card x=2 on himself (50% HP recovery, END up a rank). - Derek uses Healing Touch, boosting his AGI to EX and doubling his actions. - Derek stacks another Healing Touch, quadrupling his actions. - Derek uses Antibiotic Injection on Rider (25 HP recovery). - Derek uses Antibiotic Gel Application on Rider (10 HP recovery). - Neuro summons a doll near Berserker. - Lelouch uses Pizza Delivery, calling with his cell phone. Suzaku (>_>;;) knocks on the front door and enters the church, and Lancer gets another pizza (HP recovery). - Assassin's Master uses a psychic interference on Lancer's Darkness, sealing it. - Red uses an orange spray on Lancer (HP recovery). - Rider summons and mounts Red Dragon Archfiend; it rains meteors on Archer (78), Lancer (63.7), Lelouch (67), Caster (60.4), Berserker (78), Neuro (73.6), Assassin (78). Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 03:22 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:24 PM Post #582 |
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Wouldn't Ange have taken damage? |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:27 PM Post #583 |
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That same night, start of the turn: Church: - Team Caster (+ Poli), Team Lancer, Team Archer, Saber's corpse, Saber's former Master, Avenger (just Wrath and Envy), Team Berserker, Team Assassin, and Lelouch are present. Here's what I think happened. It was just Avenger then Avenger got desummoned into another area. Sacchin raised Depletion Garden, we meteored, Avenger + Master is camping outside and reviving. Then here we are Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 03:28 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:29 PM Post #584 |
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Doh. My bad. I completely looked over the Reality Marble that same turn :<. Alright, so we'll use the rank up CS. But are we going to Consume or continue hitting? Personally, I'd rather take the extra mana for now to have as much options as possible available. I'd have been for the strength CS had it not made us dismount RDA. Edited by guild525, Apr 21 2010, 03:30 PM.
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:32 PM Post #585 |
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Still, now it depends on whether Caster wants to tango. The main thing here is whether we can one round her now. I think we can kill Caster IF she doesn't eat a corpse and prep her Noble Phantasm. If we can one round, obviously do it. If we don't then we might want to eat a corpse and hope the marble shatters and turn this into a Caster vs Rider vs Avenger battle |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:38 PM Post #586 |
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I don't think Caster's NP is anything to fret over honestly. Our Magical Defense is up the roof and I think Assassin's Master would still be willing to CS us if they didn't die from the NP. And given Nat's post in the topic, I doubt they have enough mana to sustain the Reality Marble. Also, I doubt we have the potential to one-round Caster anymore with 60 damage since we can only hit them twice and with C+ END, unless Avenger hits them, I doubt they'll die. I'm personally in favor of Consumption except in a few circumstances such as the Marble crumbling and Caster mana-deaths. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:39 PM Post #587 |
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Yeah, you make a point. A++++ is some pretty powerful defense plus if Caster NPs next turn and hits us, we'll have Scarlet to fall back on. If the Marble shatters though we bum rush Avenger
Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 03:40 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:42 PM Post #588 |
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If we're consuming Scarlet is a no-go. We could go for a straight kill on Avenger but we won't know if they CSed END or Strength or something until they hit us so.... |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:45 PM Post #589 |
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The Scarlet I meant for next turn since we'll finish consuming by then. Honestly, Caster seems to be a minor problem now since we have tons of CS boosts. Still we have A+++ defenses at minimum right now. Even EX Strength will drop us to half tops. EX Agi allows us to dodge along with our flying capabilities. Honestly, I doubt Avenger will use a EX Str or Agi right now....it's a powerful spell alright but we have no guarantee on the marble shattering this turn so I doubt they will Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 03:45 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:47 PM Post #590 |
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They'll know since Berserker gave up on winning the war and just agreed to suicide to let them win. So we're just going to consume and double meteor then? Assuming they don't miraculously CS agility of course. Although it might be wiser to do one Meteor then another the following turn so we can heal in between. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:48 PM Post #591 |
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Well, even if Caster does use a CS on Agility, there's 2 corpses so it won't matter. Of course this is all assuming the Marble holds this turn |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:50 PM Post #592 |
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? What do you mean? Should we hit if we get out of the marble? I think we could MAYBE heal the damage Avenger does on us off and then go for a meteor maybe two. Factoring in Caster's NP with ours might let us both one round Avenger actually. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 03:52 PM Post #593 |
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Hmmmm....that might not be a bad idea actually. I agree that we can't one round Caster anymore and if the Marble shatters this turn and Avenger walks in, we might need some heals as you predicted. Alright, I'd be game with that move. |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 03:56 PM Post #594 |
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The real problem is what Avenger can do. Assassin's Master told me that they actually have some sort of Time Stop skill allowing each of their stakes to get double the actions (2 actions basically.) If this is true, they might be able to one round with EX strength. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 04:00 PM Post #595 |
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I honestly doubt a one round is possible on us with A+++ defenses, even with EX Strength unless it stops evasion too which I doubt. For one thing, at the start of the war we had the ability to one round Caster before the nerf but Red Demon's got nerfed since that was too broken. Logically, EX Strength + 3 actions= Broken. I doubt EX Strength + 7 actions= Not Broken Edited by Cross_Blade, Apr 21 2010, 04:02 PM.
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 04:02 PM Post #596 |
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Talking if one stake is CSed to EX strength. If it can double hit us it should easily do 100 damage barring evasion. The other stakes may or may not be able to do 100 damage but then we have to factor in Caster's hit too. Lancer took 200 though so I guess there is no real cause for concern. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 04:04 PM Post #597 |
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Good point, If Lancer only took 200, we should be able to heal some of that off too. But this is only assuming Avenger EX Strengths us at this very moment while we consume a corpse. Otherwise, we'd Scarlet and the damage would fall even further
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 04:08 PM Post #598 |
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Another thing, what would you say if we used the last CS eventually to raise Luck to EX |
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| guild525 | Apr 21 2010, 04:08 PM Post #599 |
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What'd be great is if there are really only two stakes alive. Then we could potentially overkill everyone in the area. |
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| Cross_Blade | Apr 21 2010, 04:11 PM Post #600 |
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Good point. If there were only 2 stakes left, I'd say our odds of winning would have DRASTICALLY increased |
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