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Topic Started: Dec 2 2009, 03:44 AM (1,653 Views)
jevandloo

I agree with Jake and Patrick. C is an absolutely horrible option for many reasons that Pat listed plus the whole resigning of players and such. I think as sad as it is starting the season over would be best.
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danoj22

I would have to say that my least favorite option is C. If I had a choice A or B would be the way to go. I don't like C for many of the things expressed above. Take my pick in this draft for example, it was bantered about this season because it looked like I would not make the playoffs and I didn't. If in the resim I am in the playoff picture all year, suddenly my pick is not as appealing as it was in the 5 or 6 times it was moved. Just citing an example. Anywho, I vote A or B.

Dano
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Jake
Dec 2 2009, 04:41 AM
A and B are the only viable options. Some of us traded draft picks or traded for draft picks having a general idea what the draft order would look like. If you dealt a key player for a 1st rounder knowing that said 1st rounder was going to be a top pick, that could very well change in this scenario, and you end up getting royally screwed.

Further, a bunch of us made trades to shore up our teams for the playoffs. What if the players involved in those trades end up getting hurt? Say you dealt your 1st rounder for that skilled forward you needed for the playoff push, but in the re-sim, he breaks his femur in October and is out for nine months. You end up losing your 1st rounder for absolutely nothing because you are FORCED to do that trade.

Finally, some of us put a lot of effort into developing our players, and we have both short-term and long-term plans. Rushing through the season completely eliminates prospect development, as you no longer have any control over your training schedules. I, for example, put a lot of effort into developing Phil Kessel because I expect him to be a big part of my 08-09 team. With option C, I lose all of that. I now have to find a stopgap player to fill the role that I had groomed Kessel for, and that won't come cheap.

C is not a viable option. I'm fine with either A or B.
Just wanted to clarify a few things:

1) In option C, the draft order will be exactly as it would have been if this problem never happened

2) As for the 2nd point about making trades to boost your roster for the playoffs, in option C, Atlanta has already won the cup. Any team's trades other than Atlanta didnt work out any way (see Brind'Amour, Rod). In fact, the guys getting screwed will be the sellers. Why would i trade for Brind'Amour, he didn't bring me the Cup the first time around?

3) IMO, I don't think it's gonna hurt player development that much, especially young players. Kessel is a good example. He had a major injury that made him look crappy at draft time. Has it held him back? IMO, the answer is no. Most players bounce back and reach their potential anyway. I don't think it will hinder players in the big picture. The guys that it might affect the most are the players that are 24 or 25 years old that don't have as much time left to develop. Like Lloyd noted, it will be the same for everyone.
Edited by J-Hole, Dec 2 2009, 09:36 AM.
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swiftwin
Dec 2 2009, 04:23 AM
C is absolutely TERRIBLE. I absolutely don't like the idea of the game being simmed for an entire year with me not being there. I can't control the players, I can't control the practices, I can't get a feel for the players progression. Its absolutely brutal brutal brutal. Its by far the worst option. What if something happens that makes me not pull a trigger on a deal? Im FORCED to do that deal anyways?

I wouldn't mind A or B, whatever it takes so that it isin't C.
"Forced to do the deal anyways"- if we could fix the game, the deal would already be done anyway. It's not like the database is changing. You will have the same players on your roster at the end of the season that you do now.

GM's who made good trades will be screwed in options A & B.
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jevandloo
Dec 2 2009, 07:47 AM
I agree with Jake and Patrick. C is an absolutely horrible option for many reasons that Pat listed plus the whole resigning of players and such. I think as sad as it is starting the season over would be best.
"resigning of players and such"- trying to figure out what this means, Jeff. We know what the contracts are from the original sim. We still have access to that info and can input the contracts the same as they were.
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danoj22
Dec 2 2009, 09:00 AM
I would have to say that my least favorite option is C. If I had a choice A or B would be the way to go. I don't like C for many of the things expressed above. Take my pick in this draft for example, it was bantered about this season because it looked like I would not make the playoffs and I didn't. If in the resim I am in the playoff picture all year, suddenly my pick is not as appealing as it was in the 5 or 6 times it was moved. Just citing an example. Anywho, I vote A or B.

Dano
Dano, we will be altering the draft order to match the original draft order. For example, the Anaheim 1st that you owned will still be the #17 pick. No one will be getting screwed in that regard.
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danoj22

Well, after reading J's explainations. I am cool with any way we go. All 3 options seem viable to me. So let's do any of them. If we do C and you need help, let me know. Depending on the night, I can help out.

Dano
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TommyOvrebo

Option C it is, but also do we get a chance to go into the game bf all the simming start to do aour training correctly and tacts ????
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J-Hole

Yes. (good point tommy)
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Cream

I think it's definitely key what J has pointed out in his clarifications. IMHO the only legitimate problem some may have is player development.One year is important to development yes, but it's not going to make or break a players career, plus every single GM is in the same position. Discussing trades and draft picks is not really a valid complaint since the game will be restored to the exact same state is was before the crash, so all the trades/draft order will be the same.
Edited by Cream, Dec 2 2009, 10:36 AM.
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