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Ice Time Rule
Topic Started: May 25 2009, 11:23 AM (1,435 Views)
J-Hole

Here is the rule:
1) Any forward who plays 27 minutes or more for 3 straight games will
be suspended for one game
2) Any defenseman who plays 30 minutes or more for 3 straight games
will be suspended for one game
3) Once a team has had a player suspended, the next infracation of ANY
player on the team will be two games.
4) Once a team has had a player suspended, the next infraction of any
player on the team will be three games.
5) Future suspensions will be three games
6) Any overtime games will not count as games.
7) Teams must dress at least 17 players for a game and must have at
least 20 players on the roster.
8) In the playoffs;
A) The number of games you are allowed to go over consecutivly becomes 2
B) If you go over 2 games in a row (excluding overtime games) that player will get a 2 game suspension

If a player goes over for Games 1 & 3 and game 2 is an OT game that still counts as going over since game 2 no longer counts cause of the OT.

t is up to league GMs to report violations to Wil, Drew or me via email or MSN.

We will have the ability to waive the suspension in certain circumstances.

On the other hand, any GM who is viewed to have been consistantly
trying to work around the rule (breaking it for two games, not
breaking it for a game, having different forwards topping 30 minutes
each game, but never the same one) may also face player suspensions.

Edited by drewst18, Nov 21 2009, 12:09 AM.
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J-Hole

In discussions with several GM's, there has been concern over the ice time rule and its enforcement (or lack of). There have been some good ideas proposed by several people. The rule will be enforced in this season and in future seasons. Also, with the current icetime requirements, teams can essentially become a 2 line team. 34 minutes for a dman and 30 minutes for a F are not realistic (i know this is a game and not real hockey). We looked up the ice time stats for the NHL this past season. The top Dman averaged just under 27 minutes per game. The top F was 23 minutes per game.

So here is the proposed plan for icetime:

In the 06-07 season, the limit would be 31 mins for Dmen and 28 mins for Forwards.

In the 07-08 season and beyond, the limit would be 30 mins for Dmen and 27 for Forwards.

This tapered schedule will allow GM's a season to adjust their rosters to the new standards.


The suspension will be handed out after 3 straight games that violate the rule. Although, I think that a suspension should be handed out for a certain number of games over the time limit in the season. For example, a GM could continuously break the ice time limit for 2 consecutive games and never face a suspension if it didnt happen in the next game. To prevent this scenario, we should set a cap at a certain number of games that the limit can be broken during a season regardless if they are consecutive or not. How many games should we set as the limit?

Please post your thoughts. I've talked with several of you, but wanna get more input... (it doesnt mean that we are gonna be able to make everyone happy though- that's impossible!!!! )
Edited by J-Hole, Oct 14 2009, 01:33 PM.
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J-Hole

This rule is in effect to keep people from basically only running 2 forward lines. 26 minutes is still almost half the game. 60 minutes divided by 3 lines is 20 minutes. I know that there are PP/PK involved, but people may have to start using their 3rd liners on the PK instead of their stars. When I go with 3 lines, I dress a couple of extra forwards that only play the PK and get about 3 or 4 minutes of icetime per game. The rule is the same for everyone, so everybody must adjust.


We will re-evaluate the rule at the end of the year.

Edited by J-Hole, Aug 13 2009, 08:49 AM.
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vikingPWR

Pronger 32min+ last 5 games
havlat - played 27min+ last 10 games

3) Once a team has had a player suspended, the next infracation of ANY
player on the team will be two games.
4) Once a team has had a player suspended, the next infraction of any
player on the team will be three games.
5) Future suspensions will be three games

pronger suspended 3 game? havlat suspended first. next suspension in team is 3 games
havlat 3 suspensions -first one 1 game last 2 another 6

pronger suspended 3 games
havlat 7games
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Cap'n

He currently has 4 injured players. 1st line LW, 1st line RW, 3rd line C, 2nd pair D. I've added 4 players into the lineup to replace those guys and notified him of the changes. Two injuries occured 11/8 and two occured 11/20. I'll speak with Simon about making sure he logs in frequently enough to address injury concerns and will speak with the other commishes to see if they feel a suspension is warranted but at this point fixing the lineup was the greater concern and has been addressed. Thanks for bringing the ice time issue to my attention.
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vikingPWR

rules are rules

i play shit defenders couse reeden and green was injuried. and play shit forwards when overhckin and drury was injuried. either we put in bigger rule where we have exeptions from the dressing of 17 players and 27min/30 min rules. or we all follow em.

i dont want my team to play better opposition in playoff couse some teams runs 2 lines first 20 games and are unbeeten.
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Cap'n

as long as I've been working with ice time issues (first in a support role when Wil was ice cop), both in the old NB and this reboot, we've always taken injuries into account. If the injuries are causing the ice time to be a problem then we fix it. Problem here is simply that it wasn't causing an issue when I checked for ice time violations on Saturday and no one alerted me to it prior to your post above. The lineup has been fixed and we'll proceed from here. If you have further concerns you're free to address me by pm or msn.
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Count Hockula
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I EXPECT ABSOLUTELY NO RULE BENDING WHATSOEVER

If you do you will be one hell of a hypocrite.

As if your even considering this!! Not our fault he doesn't log in. It pisses me off enough that someone who pays no attention to there team is running the gauntlet in the league. I can understand if they went over in subsequent games that were all part of one sim, but Prongers ice time went over for 5 games straight, over a 10 day period. That's at least 3 sims. That's 3 days irl.

If the rules cannot be bent when a coach goes renegade and plays certain guys like mad to win some games, then the rules most certainly cannot be bent for someone who just doesn't pay attention.

I just checked Havlat. 10 games over the limit. That covers a 22 day span ingame. Meaning at least 6 sims were covered in this period. That, again, is 6 days irl. Gimme a break. He should be gone for 7 games, just like Pronger should be gone for 3. Teach him a lesson, pay attention to his team.
Edited by Count Hockula, Oct 14 2010, 11:00 PM.
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thomas

I don't want to see/cause any drama, but I agree with Eric here. Simon knows the rules. There should be no exceptions and no leeway. Full suspensions are warranted, as are more drastic suspensions if he does it again.
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vikingPWR

havlat been over in icetime since 8nov. 8-11 12-15 16-19 20-23 24-27 28-31 1-4 5-8dec
thats 8 sims ago. more then a week IRL. plenty of time to bring in replacers, vets, or waiver dudes to fill spot.
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