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| Gwen | Aug 29 2009, 02:59 PM Post #1 |
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I did not tell half of what I saw, for I knew I would not be believed.
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http://gizmodo.com/5348063/bill-would-give-the-president-control-of-the-internet-during-a-cybersecurity-emergency NO No way. uh uh. Fuck this. If this passes, I'm moving to Canada. |
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| Matto | Aug 29 2009, 03:02 PM Post #2 |
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Edited by Matto, Aug 29 2009, 03:02 PM.
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| Gwen | Aug 29 2009, 03:03 PM Post #3 |
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| Virgil | Aug 29 2009, 03:22 PM Post #4 |
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I agree with what the person above just said. I mean seriously, the paranoia has got to stop. This is essentially going back to the Republican fear tactic of "pulling the plug on grandma". Seriously, if Obama really gives a fuck about your privacy or cares to invade it, he would have shut down Twitter during the Iranian Election and shut down Fox, Lou Dobbs, and Rush Limbaugh's radio talk show. This is no worst than what the government has been doing for the past, oh I don't know, hundred year? Hell, the USA Patriot Act passed in 2001 was worst than this. Edited by Virgil, Aug 29 2009, 03:28 PM.
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| Gwen | Aug 29 2009, 03:33 PM Post #5 |
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Obviously it's not PARANOIAOMFGKILLIT bad. But as a gene4ral rule of thumb, I don't find it in ANY case, acceptable to censor the internet. and even if that's how the bill was meant to be used, we've seen multiple times how certain people *CoughBUSHcoughCHENEYCoughInsaneRightWingers* manipulate situations to their advantage and take laws and bills out of context to support their own agendas. As crucial as net access has become to our society, government censorship on any part of it, in any situation, to our own people is not acceptable. |
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| Virgil | Aug 29 2009, 03:42 PM Post #6 |
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I don't agree with the Benjamin Franklin's quote all that much. Benjamin Franklin made that quote during a period after the Revolutionary War and people were still weary of big government. He's right in the respect that we should protect our liberty, but a balance must be struck between liberty and security. It's like how those gun nuts brought their AK-47s and M16s to Obama's rally. It's illegal to bring guns within a certain feet of the president, but those people did it any way because the second amendment and state laws said they could. I don't agree with the way Bush and Cheney handled our nation's security in the aftermath of 9/11 because they overreacted; spying on people, arresting you if you overstayed your visa for one day, torturing, almost dispatching the army to arrest one suspected terrorist sympathizer (which would be historic because the military hasn't been dispatched to handle criminal or federal offense in almost 100 years and laws even prohibit it), to say a few. Besides, it's not like Obama is censoring everyone, he doesn't even have an opinion on this. The senate passed it, not him. Obama has a limit and temporary power to cut off internet connection to essential sites deemed essential for national security. I doubt Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter would be government servera holding blueprints for a humanoid power suit, skynet, or some shit. People don't seem to argue much when the USA Patriot Act was passed, why would they complain now? |
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| Gwen | Aug 29 2009, 06:18 PM Post #7 |
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I complained as soon as I knew about the patriot act, and I'm complaining now. the patriot act was anything but patriotic, and this is just asking for trouble in the future. It shouldn't have been passed, because all it does is leave an opening to be abused and misconstrued by authoritarians who would sooner blind you and hold us back because they don't understand or care about the subject matters they fight against. It's useless anyway, because the courts could issue a warning to the sites or our ISP's in a time of crises telling them, one way or another, to cut us off from whatever they don't want people seeing. All this bill will do is make it easier to abuse their positions in the future, should they need or want to. As for the Franklin quote; The security they use now only causes things to be muddled and over complicated. The "security": doesn't do anything but cause problems. If someone wanted a gun, knives, bombs, etc, on a plane, they could get it on easily. Same with RFID chips in passports, and all these other "security" measures. They're all easily gotten around. the fact is, our joke of national security doesn't work, and it's just in place to make us feel safe, when it really does nothing. The entire DoNS is a joke. The fact remains, we're wasting good money on this "security", that could go to better things. Franklin's quote still holds true. If you trade your liberty for security, you'll get nothing but an Orwellian government. |
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| Eka | Aug 30 2009, 12:49 PM Post #8 |
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"I'm a monster; on the inside as well."
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... Wow. Yes, come to Canadaland. =D XDD |
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