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Mosley Lane; aka Gublers Episode
Topic Started: Mar 3 2010, 03:01 PM (2,085 Views)
Lola
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Mar 5 2010, 03:03 AM
I didn't even notice the music (other than the carnival music at the beginning), which was a sign that it was good because it integrated so well. Sometimes I watch something and find myself distracted by the music. You know its working when the music is balanced so well that it just helps you to get the emotions and not be distracted or really notice it. It's nice to think "wow, great music" but then you are thinking about the music and not the actual scene.
I did pay attention to the music but I liked it very much! It was just so MGG like, I thought.
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paolafromparis
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It's just me or the profiling sucked a little bit? Not only because we didn't get the motivation of the two, but mainly I can't get why a couple of very well organized unsubs abducting kids, living in a very isolated place with a so well organized hidden basement would have had been prviously noticed and questioned by the social services? I understand that social services would have questioned the big creepy guy with the king kong psycho look, but why the middle aged quiet petit burgeois who was the Unsub?
(Moreover, if the social serviced HAD questioned the family previously, why they hadn't react to the fact that those kids weren't attending school? I don't know how is the law in US, but here in France kids must go to school until 16 year old, it's mandatory.) How the BAU got to the that conclusion anyway? (Do you remember the real story of the girl abducted and kept 10 years in a basement like that? NONE of the neightbours suspected anything. No social service was conrtacted ever.)
So how could the neighbours have "called for disturbances" when the kids were in the basement and there where NO NEIGBOURS around?
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Hmm well I actually did enjoy the ep...maybe I was concentrating on the cinematic appeal rather than the story line cause you all know I'm never a favourite on J.J. heavy episodes. It seems that every time kids are involved she is the go to character for empathy and worst of all gut feelings/motherly instincts (roles eyes). I mean common Hotch has a kid too and I'm sure everyone on the team would feel disheartened with such a case. Even with that little rant though I did like the episode, I was expecting it to be hauntingly creepy and that is what mgg certainly delivered IMO. I did take notice of the background music, its something I always observe and thought it was perfectly perfect (to use his own words :wink: ) for each seen. Seeing as he directed the episode I was actually pretty surprised by the amount of screen time he had cause I was expecting much less. He must have been kept pretty busy juggling all of that. Like the rest of you I would have preferred an explanation behind the psychology of the crimes rather than its a couple with an imposing female figure, but I don't think he is to blame for that. Think that has more to do with the writers department. As is the fact that episode was centered around the female cast, mainly J.J.
The other things that I seemed to notice are...Paget resembling a ninja/assasin in her all black get up hehehe. The only thing missing was a black mask, however I actually did like the look. What I don't like is Shemars goatee it just makes him look sleazy and really brings out the soap opera star that he was. Just not my cup of tea.
So other then that I was pretty happy with the ep. A job well done and I hope he does get the chance to direct a few more.
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paolafromparis
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Prentiss look was GOGOGOGO GIRL!!!!! The HORRIBLE bangs have GONE!!!!! :run red: :run red: :run red: :run red:
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I watched it again for more details. Yeah, the script does have its problems like so many things already pointed out here. I think real-life technicalities were sacrificed in order to make a more dramatic, flowing storyline. :shrug: I also found it hard to believe no one in the BAU connected the dots earlier when the Mom brought all those evidence to them before. During the support group sessions, wouldn't they all have notice the pattern of how their kids were abducted and collectively pushed for action?
Putting aside all that, I still liked the story with its emphasis on the women, esp. the Moms. They were the most strongly written characters which makes me wonder if that input was from Erica Messer who I believe from the chats is a Mom(she wrote the bit about JJ putting the headphone on her baby belly in an earlier epi based on her own experience :) ). The theme is hope, starting from the opening quote which is a sardonic comment on hope as antithesis to reality to the ending quote in which hope is an uplifting of spirits. thumb up The Moms were the ones really pushing for a hopefully good resolution to a dire situation.They were the ones experiencing and expressing the strongest emotions, from extreme anger, guilt, blame, and sorrow. The "fake" Mom as unsub was a cruel caricature of a loving Mom where she was mimicing the actions of a caring Mom with her lullabies and smiles while being diabolical. I guess it's the special bond between mother and child that carries Moms through the toughest times.
As for casting, everyone was perfect for their roles. :applause: The unsubs were superbly sinister, the kids were heartbreaking, the parents were sympathetic,and the usual suspects as they were going house to house looked really creepy. :applause: great choice of actors that makes you want to lock up your kids.
The sets were creepy, too. Nice choice of old mansions and crematorium. The hallway shots of the dungeon had a nice spooky-movie feel to it.
Music- I notice the same people always score every episode so the background music is consistent. The lullaby-like tunes have been used before on epis that focused on kids and lost innocence like the Fox and I think Uncanny Valley. I liked the creepy music when Bud was sprinkling ashes on the roses-made that scene all the more chilling. bitenails Yeah, it was pitch-perfect. thumb up
Lighting and colors- liked the contrast between the dark, muted dungeon and the brighter outdoors.
Camera angles- liked the close-ups on the women, they're the heart of this show. I liked the spinning of the camera when the Mom lost Aimee. It heightened the confusion and panic of that moment.
When the kids were rescued, the light illuminated them so I liked the focus on their faces as they turn to the light. The different point of view was nice when we can see the feet from under the bed so we can feel the fear of Aimee. All in all, nice job. :applause:
I think he threw in a lot of homages to Harold and Maude, Hitchcock, old horror movies but I would need time to watch those movies to pick them out. So for now, I'll just say I liked his directorial debut in setting up a creepy but touching story of hope against all odds.
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I hope he does more directing since he is really good at it even at the expense of us not seeing him on screen. :( But he can always pull a Hitchcock or M. Night Shyamalan and do a cameo in everything he directs. :D
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I have a terrible confession to make :gah:

I have not seen the episode. Here in my area there was a basketball game that messed up the airing time schedule.It didn't come on until after 2:30 and I had to get up for work and could not force myself to stay up and watch it and the vcr I have is crappy and doesn't "set " time very reliably :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: so I missed out :cry:

does anyone know where it might be on the net?

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Lola
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Oh no, you can't miss THIS one! The MGG ep!

http://www.ch131.com/

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Thanks for the tv link Lola!! CBS doesn't have full episodes of CM and I haven't got recording abilitiy - yeah I can watch it again! btw iTunes also sells CM episodes now ($2.99) but it's a recent addition, so only season 5.

Somone asked about Amy's mom, who the actress is - she played a temporary but ongoing role on Grey's Anatomy for a while last year (Dr. Han I think).

I think the episode was really enjoyable, but the holes were huge - when Amy looks through the hole in the wall of her room to see Stephen, other children are in the beds behind him while the mom is beating him - where did they go? There was at least one younger girl, who was probably also in the family photo Morgan picked up, maybe two (not the older girl from the last part of the epi.)

I agree with other commnets about the lack of motivation for the unsubs, not hearing the herse leave the property or mention of an alternate road off of it, the writing just wasn't up to it. But overall, I think there is just too much crammed into every episode to do it justice (this one was weaker than most in this area) - I wish they had two hours a night to tell the stories they write - or that they could make ongoing story archs ... the Brits do this in many of their stories - 1.5 episodes over 3-4 weeks. It would be a really different format for American audiences, but better for the show over all I think.

Congrats to Matthew for a great job directing - let's hope it happens again!!
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Paola I agree with you completely. From what I understand the unsubs had no children of their own and were not registered as foster parents so they should not have had any children around. The fact that they kept photos was weird. Maybe people thought they were grandchildren. But if social services ever got called out and they were not authorized to have children it would've been suspicious. Especially since the kids were not going to school (as far as I know).
In the US children have to attend school until age 16 (after that they can choose to leave or be kicked out of the school) unless their parents file to homeschool them. They have to present a lesson plan and submit test scores and stuff to tell the state how their kids are doing. I could get more details if I ask my cousin-- she homeschools all four of her children (because her husband is a religious nut and didn't want the schools to tell his kids anything that contradicts his worldview-- poor kids will be in for quite a shock when they finally get out in the real world).

It did sort of explain why nobody put things together when the one determined mother was pushing so hard. Everyone thought she was just desperate and crazy. Before JJ had not understood how the mother felt until she had her own child. Hotch worries about children too, but studies have shown that men's brains actually work differently than women's. When speaking, women use both sides of the brain (for forming sentences and having emotional attachment to things). Men only use one side while speaking (the one to form sentences -- so emotion is less likely to be attached). Of course men do get very emotional and some are overly emotional about things. It has been implied that Hotch was abused as a child so he had to be tougher.

There seems to be a theme on the show about the intuition of mothers. Reid's mother constantly tells him "a mother knows" and that they feel things. She knew when he'd solved a case without even being told (although she could've seen it on the news and just been messing with him to keep up the mystery).

Even Reid (who is admittedly somewhat more effeminate than the other male characters) has had intuition about things. Like in the episode with the pigs that ate people and how Reid told Hotch he had a feeling that things weren't going to end well.

I don't know if any of you believe in the phenomena of ESP (extra-sensory perception) but I have had experience with it. My mind and body sent me warning signals when things were going to happen-- they also comforted me and made me feel calm in times when I might've been apprehensive (like when a huge typhoon was hitting my island-- I somehow just knew that my family and I were going to be ok). But when family members were seriously ill I could feel that something was wrong. Even though we were on different sides of the planet when it happened, I knew when my grandfather died and later when my grandmother died. I could feel that something was very wrong with my father but wouldn't allow myself to accept that he might be close to death, but I had terrible anxiety. I spent the night worrying and when I woke got up in the morning he was dead.

Sometimes when you have a close bond with someone you can just tell when something is not right or when things are ok. Since not everyone has a strong sense of ESP and there is not enough scientific knowledge to fully understand it, people often dismiss it.

So the mother was dismissed. I admit it did still seem like bad profiling. Like the team was not as invested in finding the children. I still think it should've been a job for the Crimes Against Children Unit instead.

Apparently in some states/cities in the US, if a child misses too many days of school due to illness or whatever reason, they actually have to go to court with their parents and explain to a judge why they missed so much (it should be noted that they have to miss school to go to the court, which I find ironic).

I personally like JJ. I'm not terribly interested in her backstory, but I like how she cares about Reid. She's very motherly to him. I sort of miss Elle because of how she and Reid got along.

On a side note, I rewatched Fisher King part II and noticed that when Reid's mom pulled the key off the wall and he freaked out and ran over, she hid her face in her hand and looked like she was laughing/smirking. Almost as if she was trying to mess with him. Either that or she was amused that he knocked something down when he was running over-- he did run kinda funny.

I'll have to try to re-watch this episode some time to see what I missed-- but it takes a looong time to load so I won't do it tonight.

oh yeah, I love that the horrible bangs are gone on Prentiss. The current hairstyle is nice.
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i just watched "Mosley Lane" great ep, even in english i understood the essence! Spencer is very adorable, empathetic! and MGG is a great director! i hope that he will direct ather ep in the future!
JJ is a mom she is very good in this ep.


and the HAIR! mgghair
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