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Lesson learned from Hurricane Katrina, What would you do?; Originally posted by SouthMSPatriot
Topic Started: May 27 2009, 10:41 PM (189 Views)
CindyLou62

Lessons learned from Hurricane Katrina
What would you do?

With the up coming hurricane season and looking back at some of the unconstitutional incidents that took place in New Orleans. This is primarily in reference to citizens’ rights to own, keep and possess their guns being outright violated by law enforcement. We have all read the stories; we have all seen the videos that include a sampling of the following:

(1) The little old lady that was tackled in her home by LEO who did not want their help, gun confiscated.
(2) The story of a couple of men in their boat and they boarded by some sheriff’s deputies at gun point, guns confiscated
(3) The story I saw, the residents were zip-tied sitting on the side walk in front of their home. This was a result of LEO doing door to door knocks to enforce the evacuation orders, which resulted in confiscating their guns.

These are just a few of the stories that are out there that actually took place. These people had several things in common:

(1) They were legally owning their guns.
(2) They were not criminals.
(3) They were minding their own business.
(4) They did not ask for help from the government,
(5) They were willing (and were prepared) to stay in their homes at their own risk.
(6) They conceded to the unconstitutional illegal demands of law enforcement.

What would you have done?

This is a very tough question at hand. We all say no one will get our gun(s). But, are we really willing to risk death or imprisonment? Will we all truly live by “Give me liberty or give me death?”

Lets look at the stories I gave as examples.

Stories #1 and #3 could both have had alternate endings:

(1) Upon being contacted by law enforcement, they could have resisted their intrusion, which would likely end up in a gun battle. Ultimately, the end result would have been their death. The mindset here is to take out as many as you can until you yourself are taken out, because one will be outgunned and out numbered. Then hopefully your sacrifice will add fuel to some real changes. But the feds will make you out like another Ruby Ridge incident, Waco scenario, etc…

(2) Concede, and fight the battle in the court system. These folks are like you and me, middle class. It would cost thousands of dollars to hire a defense team to go after the government. And quite frankly, what would really be the end result. I see that there is new law that is either in the works or is in place about the govt. not being able to order to seizure of all firearms during a natural disaster and/or civil unrest. Even is such law was in place, would it be actually honored during the next Hurricane Katrina type event. I doubt it. We already had laws in place to protect out rights, and that did not work. Our laws and rights were trampled upon without hesitation.

(3) This is the option I think I would consider if house to house knocks were to happen in my neighborhood. When the evacuation orders were giving in New Orleans, LEO went door to door to see if anyone was home. This is being thought without knowing all the factors, so please give me your feedback in trouble shooting this scenario. Once one has knowledge that LEO is in close proximity; act as if you are not home. It seems the reason these people had their guns confiscated is that they answered their doors upon LEO knocking to their door. Turn off the lights, turn off the generator, make it quiet. They knock, no response, they leave, go to the next home. Of course, there are lots of factors to this approach as to whether it would work or not. If LEO policy (it wouldn’t matter if it was legal to do so or not) is to force entry into vacant homes when they rec’d no response, then this option fails. I did not hear of any stories of law enforcement kicking in doors of vacant homes. But, I may not have heard all of the stories???
If one lives in a typical neighborhood/subdivision, then this approach will likely not work because when your neighbor is being forced from their home, they may say, hey, what about Joe Smith over there. LEO says we already checked that house and nobody‘s home. But your neighbor says, well, Joe is home, you need to check again, and this will likely result in forced entry under to guise of a safety and welfare check. Since your neighbor has confirmed that you are home, and since you didn’t answer your door, then maybe something is wrong, therefore, resulting in a safety and welfare check into your home to make sure that you are okay. The end result, the decision to give up your firearms or fight.

What would you do?

Story #2 is some unique possible alternatives. These guys were on Lake Pontchartrain. They were workers of some company. Had hunting rifles in the boats storage compartment. They were approached and were probably thinking, hey LEO, the good guys. Well, their guns illegally taken. I do not know maritime laws and such. But I am assuming there are no restrictions in that area. If these workers are in this scenario again, I wonder what would they do:

(1) Allow LEO to approach, board and violate.

(2) Fire warning shots in their general direction, if LEO continues, shot their engine and disable their boat, or engage in a gun battle?

Man, these are decisions that we may have to make in the future.
Do we give in? Do we stand for our rights?
What are we willing to do? What am I willing to do? What are you willing to do?

SMSP
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