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| John Farmer quits the "truth movement"; & threatens to press charges against me | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 9 2008, 12:43 PM (838 Views) | |
| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 9 2008, 12:43 PM Post #1 |
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All because of a phone call we had about a year and a half ago that I recorded that really demonstrates his contradictions and illogical behavior. Apparently he forgot about the part when I told him I was going down to my car to use the speaker phone so I could record the call!  And surprise surprise.....he is using it as an excuse to quit the truth movement! 
This dramatic exit is so incredibly predictable and sooooo reminiscent of the behavior of the other most prominent pseudo-truther/CIT detractor Russell Pickering who spiraled out of control and dramatically "quit" the movement because of us. Let's get a couple of things straight here..... He simply forgot that I told him I was recording but he is accusing me of "unethical" behavior for allegedly recording a call without his consent even though 1 party consent recording of phone calls is perfectly legal under federal law and in 38 out of 50 states INCLUDING his state of Tennessee. The call is for the most part harmless as it was nothing but a casual conversation we had shortly after he magically appeared on the scene attacking our research. I typically invite all of our detractors to talk on the phone to see if they're willing to talk man to man like real humans. They rarely do but another example of one who accepted would be my eventual discussion with Adam Larson. But what's funny here is that I posted this call with Farmer about 6 months ago only because he brought it up and LIED about what was said as explained in this post. The notion that he wasn't aware of it until now is plain old silly since he has continually obsessed over every word we post. I'm sorry but I don't buy the fact that he never saw a thread about HIM with HIS name in the title. No...this is an excuse. An excuse to deflect attention from the facts, the information, the evidence, his contradictory illogical behavior, and focus it on us personally while bailing on the movement because he knows he is intellectually bankrupt and simply can not effectively defend his position against us anymore. He had already begun the process of quitting the movement by becoming a full-fledged jrefer, and an excellent thread by CIT supporter TheLoneBedouine calling him out on his blatant contradictions pushed him over the edge! Read thread here: Questions for 911files about his research Of course Farmer doesn't have a case and simply looks like a whiney baby. He cries:
Trust? What "trust" Farmer? You were LYING to jref about your assertions regarding 9/11, you LIED to Mark Gaffney regarding evidence in essence destroying his book, and of course you continuously LIE about us. We KNEW you were a liar as soon as you appeared on the scene so I contacted you to have a discussion on the phone as I do all detractors. I knew your own statements would eventually come back to bite you in the ass. Sure enough I was right just like we were right about you using the E4B to push a ridiculous 2 plane conspiracy theory as cover for the flyover before you ever sent that nonsense to be published in Gaffney's book. We have predicted your every move every step of the way but you continued to forge ahead with your fraudulent plans anyway since you had no choice. Now you are exposed and you are quitting the movement. Again. Sorry but NOBODY could make me quit 9/11 truth. NOBODY. I don't think ANY real truther would allow someone to make them do that. You and Pickering are the ONLY ones I know who have ever done such a thing and you both did it because you could not refute the north side evidence. Coincidence? Yeah right. I'll take it upon myself to deliver an exit message on behalf of the truth movement to you... Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out! Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Dec 9 2008, 12:51 PM.
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| BoneZ | Dec 9 2008, 04:12 PM Post #2 |
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I'm surprised you never wanted to call me when I was a "detractor".
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 9 2008, 04:20 PM Post #3 |
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Well if you had admitted to viewing the evidence and STILL continued to attack us I probably would have. 
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| BoneZ | Dec 9 2008, 04:32 PM Post #4 |
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You're cool with me and you can call me any time Craig. 
Edited by BoneZ, Dec 9 2008, 04:32 PM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 9 2008, 04:43 PM Post #5 |
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Right on man....but beeee caaaareful! I might catch you admitting you believe 9/11 was an inside job! |
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| BoneZ | Dec 9 2008, 05:37 PM Post #6 |
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Well, on second thought.... |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Dec 9 2008, 07:03 PM Post #7 |
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so let me get this right..... farmer [pickering] influences gaffney [avery] into pushing a nonsense 2 plane [small piece of light pole] theory in his book [movie] and then abruptly quits the movement under some lame excuse ["i've accomplished all my 9/11 related goals"]??? you ever see that movie groundhog day with bill murray? Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Dec 9 2008, 07:03 PM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 11 2008, 07:03 PM Post #8 |
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I swear he does absolutely EVERYTHING we say he is going to do! Just as predicted.... He nuked his entire blog AGAIN! 911files Permanently Closed For Business What kind of an honest researcher would wipe out everything he published or said? Obviously Farmer does not want to be held to his word. As he said he "lost" everything once before (yeah right), disappeared for a while, and then started back strong with the release of our piece, The Pentagon Flyover - How They Pulled It Off. So now that he looks like a complete fool for manipulating Gaffney into publishing that disinfo piece (he never even announced the release of Gaffney's book) about an E4B north side flyover, he has once again nuked his entire library of articles for the year. He is sucking up to jref to try and use them as a conduit since he knows he has lost every minuscule shred of credibility he may have swindled in the past with anyone in the movement. Even this short announcement at jref is such a ridiculously obvious psychological manipulation effort on so many levels. My guess is that he is referring to Mark Gaffney as far as the relationship he is severing ties with because he sure didn't have one with us to sever! Too funny. Even the jref'ers won't put up with his manipulative schizophrenic behavior for long. Look how Farmer is disgustingly sucking up to them to gain acceptance:
As if jref'ers don't have blinders on! As if they look at information that contradicts the official story objectively in the least or don't have a "pre-determined conclusion" regarding what happened on 9/11. They think they KNOW for a FACT that it was physically carried out solely by 19 fanatic Muslim hijackers and they think anyone who doubts this or is skeptical about this at all is a lunatic idiot fool. Farmer certainly always did seem like an illogical pseudo-skeptic. He definitely has the psychological profile of a jrefer. Too bad for him that his previous statements and beliefs expose him as the exact type of person that jrefers love to hate and make fun of! Another CIT detractor bites the dust! Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Dec 11 2008, 10:22 PM.
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| BoneZ | Dec 12 2008, 05:04 PM Post #9 |
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So, who is John Farmer and how did he manipulate Mark Gaffney into writing the E-4B story? I was in contact with Mark Gaffney for a long time, advising him on what I knew and giving him feedback about his articles and I never saw John Farmer's name mentioned. Does John have a psuedonym that he went by? |
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| JFK | Dec 12 2008, 05:44 PM Post #10 |
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John Farmer : His website : http://www.aal77.com/ |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 13 2008, 03:34 PM Post #11 |
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No that is NOT the same John Farmer. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 13 2008, 03:40 PM Post #12 |
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I didn't say he manipulated him into writing the E4B story. I said he manipulated him into publishing a ridiculous 2 plane theory that involves an E4B north side flyover with a simultaneous impact of "AA77" on the south side just like we predicted they would do and just like we stated was the entire purpose of the E4B to begin with. Cover for the flyover. I was in contact with Gaffney before the book release as well and they deliberately lied about the ANC witnesses in the "Afterword" that was written by Farmer and I can prove it. Have you read the book yet? Do you understand how Gaffney has ALREADY retreated from the entire premise which is based on the notion that the E4B was in the airspace BEFORE the attack and manipulated out of the radar data? Obviously this would prove a deception and cover-up and it is the basis for Gaffney's book yet he has already admitted that he was completely wrong so in essence has NOTHING in regards to the E4B that proves a deception at all. I'll have a detailed review published soon. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Dec 13 2008, 03:41 PM.
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| JFK | Dec 13 2008, 03:43 PM Post #13 |
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OK, I am patiently waiting for you to put the correct face to John Farmer. 
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Dec 13 2008, 03:47 PM Post #14 |
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The creepy guy with the eye patch in my signature is John Farmer, the 911files.info & aal77.com website owner/disinformation promoter. He used to have a blog up addressing the fact that he is not the 911 commission John Farmer with their middle initials and stuff but of course he nuked his entire blog again! Gaffney also makes the distinction between the two in his book. |
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| JFK | Dec 13 2008, 03:55 PM Post #15 |
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Thank you for making me aware of that fact. Edit to add - The Google cache for 911files.info may be found HERE. Edited by JFK, Dec 13 2008, 04:04 PM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Apr 26 2009, 01:53 PM Post #16 |
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As expected Farmer's eventual complete withdrawal from 9/11 "research" has now been completed. While he took down his "911files" blog and publicly quit the truth movement at the end of 2008....he remained a frequent poster on jref and kept all of the govt provided information he has disseminated up on his AAL77.com site. No more!
Malicious hacking!!!! :lol: Yeah right. Funny how everyone else on the internet has no problem maintaining a website. So as predicted, he has completely disappeared and taken the fruits of all his hard labor completely out of the public domain. Obviously his failure to control the info and get us to fall into his numerous traps has taken its toll and he can't be effective as a full blown jrefer so he has been given his walking papers much like Pickering. Sorry but no honest researcher would delete all their accomplishments unless they have decided they were wrong. But there is not an honest bone in this guy's body. He has clearly been deemed ineffective and given his order to disappear. This guy has been THE main conduit for govt released data the past couple of years and now EVERYTHING he has ever done is gone. He was clearly assigned to CIT since we were his primary focus so this is no coincidence folks. He failed and we prevailed. It really says a lot that all of our most intensely focused detractors have been forced to give up and go away. Pickering, Larson, and now Farmer. Another one bites the dust! Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Apr 26 2009, 01:55 PM.
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| noeffects | Apr 26 2009, 03:15 PM Post #17 |
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thats right Craig...Prevail ! funny he claims "hacking"...lol... sounds like Mr. Farmer is the hack... some appropriate definitions of a hack... sounds about right...the hack who couldn't hack it... |
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