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| Why "Pseudo-Skeptics" Won't Contact the Witnesses | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 4 2008, 01:30 PM (3,675 Views) | |
| JFK | Mar 25 2009, 04:25 PM Post #126 |
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Why should he give you their email addresses ? The very same email addresses he traveled across the country to aquire ? When you are posting from less than 100 miles away from Arlington. You seriously appear to be trolling based on the above. |
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| espresso | Mar 25 2009, 04:33 PM Post #127 |
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I'm not saying he has to provide me with their e-mail addresses. Perhaps you haven't read my previous posts?
If he really wanted me to contact them, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore.
Where I am posting from has nothing to do with it. Aldo wants me to contact them and I've stated how it will be done. |
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| noeffects | Mar 26 2009, 08:40 AM Post #128 |
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why? why does it only have to be ?....
what is your message again ? |
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| espresso | Mar 26 2009, 09:21 AM Post #129 |
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Because I believe those to be reasonable solutions. Because I'm not going to show up at someone's door or start calling them about this (if I were them I wouldn't want that) and I'm not going to go on a wild goose chase for their contact information. Because Aldo wants me to contact them and if he wants ME to do it then I'm going to do it MY way. Because I don't have to contact them so if you want it done another way you can do it yourself or find someone else.
I'll pretty much just be asking some clarifying questions and making sure that they each understand that the plane couldn't have both flown NoC and impacted. If you or anyone else here has questions that they would like me to ask I'll consider adding those as well. I'll put it all nicely together if/when Aldo agrees to forward it to them. |
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| noeffects | Mar 26 2009, 10:32 PM Post #130 |
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Can you post these questions in a new topic? |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Mar 27 2009, 01:28 AM Post #131 |
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i'm sorry but i have no idea who the hell you are so why should aldo or anyone else for that matter be catering to your demands? jfk already laid it out for you.... |
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| espresso | Mar 27 2009, 08:31 AM Post #132 |
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Does he want me to contact the eyewitnesses or not? If he wants ME to do it then I'm going to do it MY WAY. If he's not agreeable to that then he can find someone else. |
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| noeffects | Mar 27 2009, 08:57 AM Post #133 |
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Espresso did it his way ! do be do bee doo...when i hear the dramatic ending to this song it makes me feel so proud of the SOC witnesses that came forward..lol on a sidenote...who was that debunker that went to the gas station in arlington but didn't ask any questions? |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Mar 27 2009, 06:00 PM Post #134 |
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That was John Farmer, the pseudo-truther turned full-blown jrefer shown in my sig. But of course the deceptive liar "Boonedoggled" was the one who admitted to having his car fixed at Shinki Paik's auto-shop, while fully believing he was looking witness Edward Paik in the face, yet failed to say a word. Full details in this thread |
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| noeffects | Mar 27 2009, 06:18 PM Post #135 |
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ah "boondoggled" ..."cuz he didn't feel like it" lol what an investigator...what a man of conviction...full blown fail... So what's the hold up "nicepanties" ? I can only imagine the leading questions as federal expresso fumbles through failed SOC and impact witnesses... |
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| William Rea | Mar 28 2009, 03:29 AM Post #136 |
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What I find interesting about this is how the J**Fodoxy becomes suddenly communications illiterate when asked to look at something of interest but, they will turn the world upside down in a search to find you and your identity so that they can smear you or attack you via your private life. |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 5 2009, 02:57 PM Post #137 |
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So is it that you guys are afraid of accepting this as true if told by a genuine witness? |
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| espresso | Jul 21 2009, 11:39 AM Post #138 |
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I'm not afraid. I've already stated that I would contact them. I am still awaiting a PM containing e-mail contact info for the witnesses, or your agreement to forward my message on to them. Edited by espresso, Jul 21 2009, 11:40 AM.
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Jul 24 2009, 03:43 PM Post #139 |
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A. Thank you for once again conceding you are a pseudo skeptic. and... B. The thread title is "Why "Pseudo-Skeptics" Won't Contact the Witnesses?", NOT "Why "Pseudo-Skeptics" Won't Contact the Witnesses, Because I will give them their informaton". You do have fingers, mouth, and I presume sort of a brain right? If we can do it, so can you. Is it that you are lazy? Stupid? Handicapped from the neck down? What is it? |
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| espresso | Jul 31 2009, 12:40 PM Post #140 |
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The title of this thread is not "Why 'pseudo-skeptics' won't go on a wild goose chase for the contact information of the witnesses" I've stated before that I'm willing to contact them, and I am. I am not willing to waste my time & resources attempting to track all of them down.
I think it's funny that someone who refuses to click "forward" on an e-mail would think that I am lazy for not wanting to spend hours & hours trying to track down all of these eyewitnesses. Why is it that you refuse to simply forward an e-mail? Why is it that me wasting my time tracking these people down is more important than simply getting their answers to a few questions? Edited by espresso, Jul 31 2009, 12:46 PM.
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| 22205 | Jul 31 2009, 02:05 PM Post #141 |
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as the person who actually spends a huge chunk of his time, resources, blood, AND sweat to get CIT the contact infos: i (yes me) will be damned if i ever offer you jackshit. passion, drive, devotion, and hours and hours of vetting information, cross referrencing databases, and tracking down leads is what got that ME/US that information. so fuck you and your laziness. you have NOT earned the right to have the contact info - capiche? and since i seriously doubt you have the skills necessary to find most of them, its your freakin loss thanks to your incompetence, NOT OUR refusal to give it to you. but the real deal here is that you want to stall, so u keep making excuses so that you can keep playing your lame hand, trying to put your failure on us, when in reality you doNt want to get a hold of these witnesses. why? here is a clue: unless you tamper with or misrepresent what these would-be witnesses tell you (if you were able to contact them), you are only going to confirm exactly what they've told us (many of them documented on camera and on location). so there's nothing new to be gained from your efforts, but FURTHER coroborration and validation of said accounts. but for now you keep NOT making any effort (none), so like i said: fuck you. do you know what the number one commodity is in business? INFORMATION. corporations pay tons and tons of money for it. why do you think that is? cuz its hard to obtain. so why do you expect information for free? at the very least it should cost you a few dollars over at intellius (which is often wrong or not up to date enough). but get busy and do your own homework and you'll see. invest some of yourself in the task and EARN the right to the information you pretend to seek. it will give you a taste of how complicated a mess it is in some instances to dig these people up, and an appreciation for why we/i refuse to hand it over to you for free, you obfuscating anonymous nicepants wearin moblogging turd. you get out what you put in, and as long as it remains ZERO, ZERO is exactly what you'll get. |
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| 22205 | Jul 31 2009, 02:27 PM Post #142 |
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"alfie" i can see your busy typing and about to post in this thread, but guess what? u can shut the fuck up too. how many socks have you used up here so far? marley? jimbob? mick? so look here RanB i am hostile cuz like i said, i put in alot of serious work to get the information. what have you done? jackshit, thats what. even for your own side, your dubunker crowd, aside from posting here, what have you done for them? have you dug up witnesses? tried to find a way to contact them? have you found a single south of columbia pike witness to go ON the record? i didnt think so. stfu. Edited by 22205, Jul 31 2009, 02:29 PM.
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| Alfie | Jul 31 2009, 02:31 PM Post #143 |
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22205 Is it alright to call another member a "moblogging turd", I thought it was probably against the rules but perhaps I am getting mixed up with another forum. Perhaps too, you are getting a bit over-sensitive over the CIT witnesses. CIT's findings seem to be presented on here as pretty much a done deal but, as I've had a quiet afternoon, I have looked around the net a bit. As a result it is apparent to me that CIT's findings (which is actually two people right ?) are extremely contentious even on truther sites. Have a look at this for example :- http://www.911blogger.com/node/20738 Lot of people there seem to be thinking that CIT is giving the movement a bad name. Bit like the old missiles and holograms stuff. The major problem seems to be that although they have identified witnesses who thought the plane passed north of the Gas Station most, or all, of those witnesses still stay the plane hit the Pentagon. CIT have it that a pass north of the Gas Station means the plane must have overflown the Pentagon. The fact that there are no witnesses to that, apart from a couple of questionables, gives rise to the incredulity. |
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| 22205 | Jul 31 2009, 02:57 PM Post #144 |
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i knew you'd bitch about it you predictable smart-ass you. check the post above your's.
perhaps you are retarded or obfuscating intentionally, given that contacting the witnesses is what this thread is about.
again, perhaps you are retarded or obfuscating intentionally, given that contacting the witnesses is what this thread is about. none of what you brought up has anything to do with "why liars wont contact the witnesses". save your self-serving insights for the randi crowd mate. perhaps you are missing the big picture, so allow me to enlighten thee: cit's info is black and white, a smoking gun. as such, information controllers have recognized the substantial contingency presented by it and have dispatched their best assets, so-called "truthers" who have been sleeper-cells all along, to try and negate the impact of what we have uncovered. unfortunately for them, and as time will bear out, they are only exposing themselves, not us. this split they are trying to exploit, this gate they are trying to keep, will shut with them firmly stuck behind it, forever marginalized and characterized as the lying cointel that they are. so if they have half a brain, and/or any sincere devotion to truth itself, and/or any concerns for their own overall longterm credibility, they will examine the big picture of where they will be when the dust has settled. my guess is that some of them are in fact genuinely devoted to the real cause of 9/11 truth, so inside their own camp will come a split, albeit a disproportionate one - since the majority of them are on the take. but as i said ralphie, this thread aint about that, but (almost a) good try. i tell ya what - name 3 witnesses, and if i have any of their contact info i will give you (or jason or espresso or whatever) the info for ONE of them. BUT ONLY ONE, cuz i wanna see what you guys are gonna do with it. and honestly, if it didnt cost me so much of my soul (time+effort X hours = soul), and if (any of) you were sincerely seeking truth, i would give you all of these witnesses (that i have info for), SO that you could confirm that we represented them honestly and accurately. but since you guys are so slimy and shady, i cant see how in good conscience and in goodness to myself, these witnesses, or the truth, i could hand over all of this hard earned information. not to mention - i dont even know what the legal technicalities are regarding me disseminating that information (like phone numbers and or addresses), so im not trying to be the 9/11 white pages. its up to you guys if you are sincere (or driven) enough to really find the truth, to do your own homework. name 3 witnesses and i may give you contact info for one of them. i may not. i guess it depends on how you ask... hehe...  |
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| Miragememories | Jul 31 2009, 02:58 PM Post #145 |
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I highly recommend you read through this thread before you totally discredit the importance of the North of Citgo eyewitness evidence. http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/932237/6/ MM |
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| Alfie | Jul 31 2009, 03:34 PM Post #146 |
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22205 Just for the record, I am not marley, jimbob etc and I have nothing to do with JREF. I am posting from the UK and I have never been on this forum under a previous name. The mods may be able to confirm. I do understand that it must be difficult when you have put effort into something to have it rubbished but this is all way beyond your feelings. It is not the fault of debunkers that there now seems to be a civil war amongst what is left of the truther movement and I shall be interested to see what is left when the dust settles. I would personally be very interested to speak directly to witnesses but I have the Atlantic Ocean to consider. |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Jul 31 2009, 04:27 PM Post #147 |
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I don't like you or your kind so we are not doing your work for you and we are not divulging personal information. This has gone on for what 2-3 pages? What are you not getting besides the information? Just do some homework and find a way to contact them. It is not that difficult. Unless, wait a minute, you aren't trying to flip this on me as if it is my responsibility are you? It isn't my responsiblity to give you people's contact information. Stop being a lazy, cowardly individual and get their contact info. Why not just fly to Arlington and walk onto ANC grounds, it is free and all those guys are in the maintenance area. |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Jul 31 2009, 04:33 PM Post #148 |
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Actually that is not a problem. Thats because if they saw it approach on the north side of the gas station they couldnt have seen an impact and were clearly fooled. you do understand that right? But of course you already knew that. You clearly are well informed but trying to feign an innocent igorance. Nice try sock. http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-can_north_side_plane_hit.html And clearly you forgot about those pesky light poles huh, "Alf"? Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, Jul 31 2009, 04:38 PM.
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Jul 31 2009, 04:37 PM Post #149 |
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Lot of people? You mean like the 5-10 people who make up those posters? What does their lack of understanding of the event and disbelief based incredulity. Alfie, isn't it also possible that they are fake or controlled opposition to give an impression of a lack of support, kind of like what you are doing right now? I got e-mail upon e-mail of support from people. Stick to the evidence Alfie oh and the thread. You going to contact these witnesses or any witnesses and tell them they didn't see what they said they saw? Of course you won't. Because you, like your friends, are an anonymous pseudo skeptic coward. I know, it's ok, its easier to work from the shadows. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, Jul 31 2009, 04:39 PM.
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| espresso | Jul 31 2009, 04:39 PM Post #150 |
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I don't expect their contact information to be handed over. I have stated many times that I would be content with having someone with their contact information simply forward an e-mail to them on my behalf. I respect the fact that you and others have worked very hard to obtain that information which is why I suggested an alternative that wouldn't require you to give me any of it.
My Loss? What have I lost? There's no loss on my part. Aldo is the one who wanted skeptics contact the witnesses so if it's anyone's loss then its his. I gain nothing by contacting them. |
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