Why "Pseudo-Skeptics" Won't Contact the Witnesses

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Why "Pseudo-Skeptics" Won't Contact the Witnesses
Topic Started: Dec 4 2008, 01:30 PM (3,691 Views)
JFK	Dec 10 2008, 10:56 PM Post #101
Posts: 4,220 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	albion Dec 10 2008, 10:09 PM That phone call warned Roberts that the Pentagon was a likely target also, just like NYC. I find that amazing. Everyone else thought it was going to be the capitol or the White house. What was this sargent's name ?
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Domenick DiMaggio	Dec 10 2008, 11:13 PM Post #102
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	albion Dec 10 2008, 10:09 PM Quote: i base this on the following facts : at 9:12, 9:11 in the morning at the pentagon there was no event that can account for : a) an explosion b) dust and stuff coming from the ceiling c) people screaming d) low flying plane over the pentagon e) evacuation before the alleged impact of an airliner Bingo! As I have repeatedly shown you, no such sequence of events occurred. You really do need to listen to what Roberts is saying in his first account. at 9:12; 9:11. but roughly 20 minutes later they did. occams razor states roberts time is simply mistaken about the time he estimatesand the claims pushed by adam larson that he was watching his watch and is accurate as the atomic clock is pure conpriatorial bullshit pushed by ignorant conspriacy theorists with an agenda. change roberts account time by 20 minutes and his account matches everyone else who experience the attack on the pentagon. thank god you're not in type of law enforcement or investigation departments......
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darion	Dec 12 2008, 02:38 PM Post #103
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: 01/15/08	Well one thing is clear when it comes to skeptics. The have their lines they must repeat over and over. Also they would never look for any evidence themselves due to the fact what they are told is a religion to them. And lastly they couldnt even talk with a witness for it could shatter their ideals and view of what happened.
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pguillory	Dec 12 2008, 03:16 PM Post #104
Posts: 91 Group: BANNED! Member #766 Joined: 07/25/08	darion Dec 12 2008, 02:38 PM Well one thing is clear when it comes to skeptics. The have their lines they must repeat over and over. Also they would never look for any evidence themselves due to the fact what they are told is a religion to them. And lastly they couldnt even talk with a witness for it could shatter their ideals and view of what happened. I am using my God given brain. The flyover is an impossibility. If the plane headed for the pentagon and the damage is consistent with such, why believe in a flyover, if it isn't even possible? If all witnesses believe the plane hit the pentagon and it had no where else to go, why delude ourselves into thinking it didn't hit? What evidence is there of stationary explosives causing the damage at the pentagon? Have you even tried to think of how the damage could be faked to look like high impact from outside of the building on soc flight path? What about the trailer? Did a stationary explosion cause that? You are the one going on blind faith. All the evidence is conclusive of the plane hitting the building and causing the damage.
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darion	Dec 12 2008, 05:54 PM Post #105
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #29 Joined: 01/15/08	pguillory I am using my God given brain. The flyover is an impossibility. If the plane headed for the pentagon and the damage is consistent with such, why believe in a flyover, if it isn't even possible? If all witnesses believe the plane hit the pentagon and it had no where else to go, why delude ourselves into thinking it didn't hit? What evidence is there of stationary explosives causing the damage at the pentagon? Have you even tried to think of how the damage could be faked to look like high impact from outside of the building on soc flight path? What about the trailer? Did a stationary explosion cause that? You are the one going on blind faith. All the evidence is conclusive of the plane hitting the building and causing the damage. So in your mind nothing else happened other than a plane hitting the pentagon. Forget eye witnesses! Forget expert pilots that say it’s not possible for a 747 to make some of the maneuvers it did! Forget the evidence of multiple rings being damaged where there shouldn’t have been! Forget the lack of any plane parts in the area! Forget the edges of the collapse that show no signs of being burned whatsoever! Forget there was multiple cameras that should have easily shoot the plane in mutiple angels! Forget there where government officials to pick up video tapes from next door within mins of the impact! Man to be a skeptic you have to forget a lot I see. Is there anything left in that head after you forget all of that evidence? I could go on but then your head would be empty!
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albion	Dec 13 2008, 12:18 PM Post #106
Posts: 175 Group: BANNED! Member #911 Joined: 10/28/08	Dom but roughly 20 minutes later they did. occams razor states roberts time is simply mistaken about the time he estimatesand the claims pushed by adam larson that he was watching his watch and is accurate as the atomic clock is pure conpriatorial bullshit pushed by ignorant conspriacy theorists with an agenda. Occam's Razor does not apply. As I've already demonstrated, Roberts's account is consistent with the times he gave for what HE was seeing, both on TV, and outside the Pentagon. Quote: change roberts account time by 20 minutes and his account matches everyone else who experience the attack on the pentagon. thank god you're not in type of law enforcement or investigation departments...... Investigators don't change witnesses accounts. Let's remember that Roberts by CIT's own admission gave two differing accounts neither of which is consistent with what CIT claims as a flyover. We all know by CIT's admission that it could not clarify what Robert's meant in its own interview with him. That, coupled with the fact that there would have been scores of corroborating eyewitnesses to a flyover means only one thing: Roberts's testimony is rejected in toto. A trained investigator would reject his credibility out of hand. So, you are all still where you started: there is no evidence or eyewitnesses to any jet flying over and away from the Pentagon as CIT claims happened and is required by its theory, Edited by albion, Dec 13 2008, 12:19 PM.
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 04:01 PM Post #107
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Why biotches?
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 04:17 PM Post #108
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Is anyone going to contact any of the witnesses? What about the ANC witnesses? They are very accessible. What about Sean Boger?
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 04:27 PM Post #109
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Don't you think this is serious enough that you should contact the witnesses scumbags?
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 04:28 PM Post #110
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Espresso, HeadIsARock, Stich the Bich-when you going to contact the witnesses and confront them to inform them that the "physical evidence" "trumps" them and that they are wrong?
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espresso	Mar 23 2009, 04:47 PM Post #111
Posts: 124 Group: Skeptics Member #1,078 Joined: 03/05/09	Aldo Marquis CIT Mar 23 2009, 04:28 PM Espresso, HeadIsARock, Stich the Bich-when you going to contact the witnesses and confront them to inform them that the "physical evidence" "trumps" them and that they are wrong? I've offered to e-mail Mr. Lagasse but you refused to provide me with his address. I also offered to send YOU an e-mail to forward to him, and you again refused, only providing me with his employer's phone number despite the fact that his employer does not wish for Mr. Lagasse to take calls on the matter. I'll e-mail any of these eyewitnesses and get their statements if you provide me with their addresseses. While we're on the subject why didn't YOU confront any of these witnesses to inform them that they were wrong about the plane hitting the Pentagon?



Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 04:57 PM Post #112
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Quote: I've offered to e-mail Mr. Lagasse but you refused to provide me with his address. I also offered to send YOU an e-mail to forward to him, and you again refused, only providing me with his employer's phone number despite the fact that his employer does not wish for Mr. Lagasse to take calls on the matter. Why do I need to give it to you bitch? You got fingers, you got a brain(at least half of one) and a mouth. Find his contact information. AhemCough..you might even find his Facebook, if you looked hard enough. Stop relying on me as an excuse to not contact them. Quote: I'll e-mail any of these eyewitnesses and get their statements if you provide me with their addresseses. Why do I need to provide them? Oh I get it, because you know I won't which allows you the opportunity to not contact them and then blame it on me. You are such a bitch, how do you even go on day to day living your pathetic cowardly life? Quote: While we're on the subject why didn't YOU confront any of these witnesses to inform them that they were wrong about the plane hitting the Pentagon? We did ya dummy. And they were FOOLED, stop using the word "wrong".
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hiphopopotamus	Mar 23 2009, 05:24 PM Post #113
Posts: 211 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: 05/16/08	Aldo Marquis CIT Mar 23 2009, 04:57 PM Why do I need to give it to you bitch? You got fingers, you got a brain(at least half of one) and a mouth. Find his contact information. AhemCough..you might even find his Facebook, if you looked hard enough. Stop relying on me as an excuse to not contact them. You make an inflammatory post calling people cowards, and when someone takes you up on the challenge you call them a bitch? You, sir, are a modest little person with much to be modest about. If you really wanted people to become informed, you would provide a sensible form of contact. Clearly you only with to cause problems and stir up problems. It certainly seems like a ban worthy post
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 05:31 PM Post #114
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Quote: You make an inflammatory post calling people cowards, and when someone takes you up on the challenge you call them a bitch? They didn't take me up on shit. They set it up so they don't have to contact them. The thread was about them contacting the witness, not about me providing them with their personal contact information so they can contact them. Quote: You, sir, are a modest little person with much to be modest about. Oh my goodness. This coming from the guy that decided to use an unflattering still of two basketball players in a homo erotic pose as his avatar. And you, sir, are a little bitch with much to be bitchin' about. Quote: If you really wanted people to become informed, you would provide a sensible form of contact. Who the fuck says? Some slimy little skeptic? There are no rules. Contact them, like we did. We didn't demand anyone give us their contact information. We searched it out and contacted them. Quote: Clearly you only with to cause problems and stir up problems. No, I am trying to cause solutions and stir up solutions. Quote: It certainly seems like a ban worthy post Or it could be a "back-pat" worthy post to those who are sick of you and your type.
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hiphopopotamus	Mar 23 2009, 05:40 PM Post #115
Posts: 211 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: 05/16/08	Your droll vitriol aside, they are Olympic wrestlers; not basketball players.
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Mar 23 2009, 05:43 PM Post #116
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	hiphopopotamus Mar 23 2009, 05:40 PM Your droll vitriol aside, they are Olympic wrestlers; not basketball players. Oh sorry, let me fix that for you cupcake: "This coming from the guy that decided to use an unflattering still of two Olympic Wrestlers in a homo erotic pose as his avatar"
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espresso	Mar 24 2009, 08:58 AM Post #117
Posts: 124 Group: Skeptics Member #1,078 Joined: 03/05/09	Aldo Marquis CIT Mar 23 2009, 04:57 PM Quote: I've offered to e-mail Mr. Lagasse but you refused to provide me with his address. I also offered to send YOU an e-mail to forward to him, and you again refused, only providing me with his employer's phone number despite the fact that his employer does not wish for Mr. Lagasse to take calls on the matter. Why do I need to give it to you bitch? You got fingers, you got a brain(at least half of one) and a mouth. Find his contact information. AhemCough..you might even find his Facebook, if you looked hard enough. Stop relying on me as an excuse to not contact them. You asked to be provided with Penny Elgas' contact info. It's ok for you to ask but not ok for me? http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=204059&t=1288804 Quote: They didn't take me up on shit. They set it up so they don't have to contact them. The thread was about them contacting the witness, not about me providing them with their personal contact information so they can contact them. YOU said that YOU wanted me (and others) to contact the witnesses. I agreed to do so under certain conditions and you resorted to personal attacks instead of proposing a solution. If you really want ME to contact the witnesses, then I'm going to do it on my terms. I will make it crystal clear for you- If you want me to contact the witnesses you can either send me their e-mail info OR I will send you an e-mail message which you can forward on to them. Either it happens this way or it doesn't happen at all. The choice is yours.



noeffects	Mar 24 2009, 09:59 AM Post #118
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	what are your "terms"..?
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Gideon524	Mar 24 2009, 10:47 AM Post #119
Oh, you didn't know? Posts: 520 Group: Admins Member #4 Joined: 12/21/07	Aldo, you need a week off. You know better than to call people names.



SPreston	Mar 24 2009, 09:39 PM Post #120
Patriotic American Posts: 1,229 Group: Members Member #122 Joined: 01/18/08	espresso Mar 23 2009, 04:47 PM Aldo Marquis CIT Mar 23 2009, 04:28 PM Espresso, HeadIsARock, Stich the Bich-when you going to contact the witnesses and confront them to inform them that the "physical evidence" "trumps" them and that they are wrong? I've offered to e-mail Mr. Lagasse but you refused to provide me with his address. I also offered to send YOU an e-mail to forward to him, and you again refused, only providing me with his employer's phone number despite the fact that his employer does not wish for Mr. Lagasse to take calls on the matter. I'll e-mail any of these eyewitnesses and get their statements if you provide me with their addresseses. I would never give out people's e-mails; especially if they asked me not too and especially if they were potentially at personal risk if I did. Why should Aldo be your personal servant? Perhaps if you expended a bit of personal time like Craig and Aldo and Domenick have, you could travel down there and talk to Lagasse and Brooks and a few other eyewitnesses face to face. Then you could tell them face to face you believe they are liars. Perhaps they will convince you they are not; if you have an open mind. While you are down there you could search for real living south flight path eyewitnesses who actually saw the light poles knocked down by an aircraft and actually saw a heavy white smoke trail across the lawn and actually saw a light pole sticking out through a taxicab windshield. Maybe if you are lucky you will help Craig and Aldo out and find some more Over the Naval Annex and North of Citgo and Pentagon Flyover eyewitnesses. I'm sure they will appreciate it and give you full credits in future videos and transcripts. Or maybe you could found your own CIT2 citizen investigative body version and present your own new line of eyewitnesses proving the 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY a lie. Of course other 'government loyalists' have traveled to Virginia with the objective of finding eyewitnnesses to destroy CIT and miserably failed. Just think what heroes you could be to the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY cause. Just think what good you could do for NATIONAL SECURITY. But then you fakers know deep inside your stone cold hearts that such witnesses will not be found and likely never existed. Perhaps it would be easier to e-mail Mainstream Media journalists and ask them if and why they invented and/or misquoted alleged eyewitness statements at the Pentagon on 9-11. I imagine you can get their e-mail addresses without Aldo's help.



espresso	Mar 25 2009, 01:38 PM Post #121
Posts: 124 Group: Skeptics Member #1,078 Joined: 03/05/09	SPreston Mar 24 2009, 09:39 PM espresso Mar 23 2009, 04:47 PM Aldo Marquis CIT Mar 23 2009, 04:28 PM Espresso, HeadIsARock, Stich the Bich-when you going to contact the witnesses and confront them to inform them that the "physical evidence" "trumps" them and that they are wrong? I've offered to e-mail Mr. Lagasse but you refused to provide me with his address. I also offered to send YOU an e-mail to forward to him, and you again refused, only providing me with his employer's phone number despite the fact that his employer does not wish for Mr. Lagasse to take calls on the matter. I'll e-mail any of these eyewitnesses and get their statements if you provide me with their addresseses. I would never give out people's e-mails; especially if they asked me not too and especially if they were potentially at personal risk if I did. Neither would I. You left out part of my post where I offered up the option of him FORWARDING a message to them from me. That wouldn't require him to give out any of their contact information. Quote: Why should Aldo be your personal servant? He's not. He has their contact information and attacks me & others for not contacting those people. I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them. If he really wanted me to contact these people, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore. Quote: Perhaps if you expended a bit of personal time like Craig and Aldo and Domenick have, you could travel down there and talk to Lagasse and Brooks and a few other eyewitnesses face to face. Then you could tell them face to face you believe they are liars. I don't believe they are liars and I'm not going to make a special trip down there to bother these people and ask them questions that they should have been asked when they were interviwed the first time.



JFK	Mar 25 2009, 02:02 PM Post #122
Posts: 4,220 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	espresso Mar 25 2009, 01:38 PM He's not. He has their contact information and attacks me & others for not contacting those people. I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them. If he really wanted me to contact these people, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore. Considering your location is nearly 3000 miles closer than Craig's or Aldo's, why don't you take the short drive to Arlington and face them face to face ?
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espresso	Mar 25 2009, 03:51 PM Post #123
Posts: 124 Group: Skeptics Member #1,078 Joined: 03/05/09	JFK Mar 25 2009, 02:02 PM espresso Mar 25 2009, 01:38 PM He's not. He has their contact information and attacks me & others for not contacting those people. I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them. If he really wanted me to contact these people, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore. Considering your location is nearly 3000 miles closer than Craig's or Aldo's, why don't you take the short drive to Arlington and face them face to face ? See my previous post: Quote: I'm not going to make a special trip down there to bother these people and ask them questions that they should have been asked when they were interviwed the first time. Edited by espresso, Mar 25 2009, 03:51 PM.



JFK	Mar 25 2009, 04:05 PM Post #124
Posts: 4,220 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	espresso Mar 25 2009, 03:51 PM JFK Mar 25 2009, 02:02 PM espresso Mar 25 2009, 01:38 PM He's not. He has their contact information and attacks me & others for not contacting those people. I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them. If he really wanted me to contact these people, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore. Considering your location is nearly 3000 miles closer than Craig's or Aldo's, why don't you take the short drive to Arlington and face them face to face ? See my previous post: Quote: I'm not going to make a special trip down there to bother these people and ask them questions that they should have been asked when they were interviwed the first time. Well if you have no intent of bothering these witnesses, why are you posting here ? Or are you simply trolling ?
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espresso	Mar 25 2009, 04:17 PM Post #125
Posts: 124 Group: Skeptics Member #1,078 Joined: 03/05/09	JFK Mar 25 2009, 04:05 PM espresso Mar 25 2009, 03:51 PM JFK Mar 25 2009, 02:02 PM espresso Mar 25 2009, 01:38 PM He's not. He has their contact information and attacks me & others for not contacting those people. I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them. If he really wanted me to contact these people, clicking the forward button wouldn't be such a chore. Considering your location is nearly 3000 miles closer than Craig's or Aldo's, why don't you take the short drive to Arlington and face them face to face ? See my previous post: Quote: I'm not going to make a special trip down there to bother these people and ask them questions that they should have been asked when they were interviwed the first time. Well if you have no intent of bothering these witnesses, why are you posting here ? Or are you simply trolling ? I thought that I was being clear. Quote: I'm not going to make a special trip down there to bother these people... Quote: I'm willing to contact them if he either provides their e-mail addresses or forwards my message to them.



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