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So now Al Qaeda's number 2 is making videos; from beyond the grave
Topic Started: Nov 19 2008, 01:41 PM (2,386 Views)
Mumin

Today, all the news agencies are reporting on statements from Al Qaeda's Number 2, Ayman Al-Zahawiri has issued negative statements about Barack Obama.

Firstly, they do not show the video. Secondly, he was reportedly killed several times, as early as August of this year.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/193493.php

Yet this is the same guy that they are claiming is make new statements:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27800654/

How are they getting these statements? From a seance?
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Travis
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They get statements from him and bin laden the same way they get statements from Elvis.
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icepick

Thats funny mumin, because your first linked article clearly states that the reports of the death of Ayman Al-Zahawiri were RUMOURS, nothing more.
Yet you write the OP as if they were statements of fact.
Why is that?
Edited by icepick, Nov 19 2008, 04:33 PM.
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Mumin

That was one of dozens of articles on the subject. Type "Al Qaeda Number 2 killed" in Google and look how many hits come up. Secondly, how many Number 2s are there? It seems that every month, there's an article about Al-Qaeda's Number 2 being killed in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

And where is the video of this alleged statement by Al-Zawahiri? It seems as phony as all of those Bin Laden statements.
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icepick

So you have no actual confirmed reports of Ayman Al-Zahawiri being killed, just rumours on the internet?
Its irrelevant how many websites repeat the rumour, it doesnt make it less of a rumour.

I would have thought it was important to verify such reports before taking them as fact and basing a whole thread around them?
Isnt that what investigators do?
Edited by icepick, Nov 19 2008, 05:31 PM.
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Mumin

We have no confirmed reports that his statements are factual... it's just rumoured. Yet, it's being published on all major media Web sites. I have yet to hear the audio or see the video. We're just expected to "take their word for it".
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icepick

The audio is available on numerous outlets, Im surprised you are having such difficulty finding it.

Given that you will happily believe anything on the internet, as long as it agrees with your opinions, even articles that admit to having no basis in fact like the death of Ayman Al-Zahawiri articles that you began the thread with, Im sure you will find these tapes equally convincing.
Edited by icepick, Nov 19 2008, 06:19 PM.
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Mumin

Have you heard Ayman Al-Zawahiri's actual voice to know whether a released sound-byte is his voice or someone else? You are too willing to believe what the MSM are dishing out. Especially since this supposed statement makes no sense. Given all the fraudulent Bin Laden videos, it's a safer bet to assume that this latest statement is a fabrication.
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icepick

"Given all the fraudulent Bin Laden videos"

Evidence?
Explain how you think they are fraudulent?
Edited by icepick, Nov 19 2008, 06:27 PM.
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icepick

"Especially since this supposed statement makes no sense"

Explain how it makes no sense.
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Mumin

icepick
Nov 19 2008, 06:15 PM
The audio is available on numerous outlets, Im surprised you are having such difficulty finding it.
Link? I haven't seen it anywhere.
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French St

See :

http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/111-Domo-arigato-Mr.-Roboto.html

http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/167-MPAA-and-Al-Qaeda.html

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icepick

From your second link.

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"The movie 300 is an interesting selection for an Al Qaeda video. It is an adaptation from a comic book (uh, "Graphic Novel" for adults who still live with their mothers) about the Spartan march to Persia (now Iraq) where they were killed. Is this Al Qaeda's way of saying that they are about to be wiped out?"


This guy really knows what he is talking about doesnt he?
LOL.

The first link really is amateur forensics at its worst.
Edited by icepick, Nov 20 2008, 07:41 AM.
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French St

I did not see the "Movie 300". I suppose that this must be a very interesting film since "Bin LADEN" and of other members of Al Qaeda seem to have appreciated it. There nevertheless this comment on Internet about the movie 300:

The Movie 300: “Neocon Racial Propaganda for War”. Link:

http://www.davidduke.com/general/the-movie-300-neocon-racial-propaganda-for-war_2381.html


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icepick

Ah, the Jews were behind it.
I wondered how long you would take to link to some antisemitic website.

BTW. Its an excellent film, based on historical fact, not a comic book.
You should watch it sometime.
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Travis
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Ah, the Jews were behind it.
I wondered how long you would take to link to some antisemitic website.


Here we go again ^o) But you think its ok to blame the A-rabs, who are also semitic?

Yo Ice pick, with regards to the media how do you determine what information is credible and what information is a fabrication?

Edited by Travis, Nov 20 2008, 11:44 AM.
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bretwalda

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So you have no actual confirmed reports of Ayman Al-Zahawiri being killed, just rumours on the internet


So you have no confirmed reports of aynman Al-Zahawire being alive, just a still image 'video' of a 'radical cleric' using gansta slur terms for the Big '0?

Apparently, the word rumor has been misplaced in some of your synapses as something equating to untrue.

Tell me iclepick. Can you supply evidence that the gansta battle rap from Zahawiri is confirmed evidence of his being alive?

Do all videos constitute reality for you?



Edited by bretwalda, Nov 20 2008, 12:16 PM.
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icepick

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"Here we go again ^o) But you think its ok to blame the A-rabs, who are also semitic?"


When all the evidence points to Al Queda carrying out 9/11?
And no evidence points to the Jews carrying out 9/11?

Yep I think that its ok to blame Al Queda.
Im not sure why you think I am blaming just Arabs though, this organisation has recruits from many races.
Edited by icepick, Nov 20 2008, 12:12 PM.
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bretwalda

...gotta laugh - watching that 'bin laden confession' tape is just so bad its hilarious. The dialogue, the big ass rolex and ring on his RIGHT hand. "Atta was such a pious man." LOLZ.

It's like watching government conspiracy theories for 7 year olds - almost surreal.

Go figure how this video would have no bearing on dolts like iclepicks reality.
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Lin Kuei
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icepick
Nov 20 2008, 12:12 PM
And no evidence points to the Jews carrying out 9/11?


This forum does not tolerate arguments such as this - either for or against.
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icepick

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So you have no confirmed reports of aynman Al-Zahawire being alive, just a still image 'video' of a 'radical cleric' using gansta slur terms for the Big '0?


He has appeared in numerous videos over the last few years, and given that there have been no confirmed reports that he is dead, its quite reasonable to assume he is alive.
Edited by icepick, Nov 20 2008, 12:19 PM.
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icepick

Lin Kuei
Nov 20 2008, 12:16 PM
icepick
Nov 20 2008, 12:12 PM
And no evidence points to the Jews carrying out 9/11?


This forum does not tolerate arguments such as this - either for or against.
You have some evidence that the Jews were behind 9/11?
I am simply responding to a poster who suggests that they are by linking to a known antisemitic website.
Do you "tolerate" that on here?
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bretwalda

Barney the purple dinosaur has been in numerous videos over the last few years, and given that there have been no confirmed reports that he is not real, its quite reasonable to assume he is.

Edited by bretwalda, Nov 20 2008, 12:23 PM.
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Lin Kuei
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icepick
Nov 20 2008, 12:18 PM
You have some evidence that the Jews were behind 9/11?
I am simply responding to a poster who suggests that they are by linking to a known antisemitic website.
Do you "tolerate" that on here?
I am simply stating that this forum will not entertain the "jews did 9/11" arguments, or any anti-semitic ideas.
That goes for everyone.
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icepick

bretwalda
Nov 20 2008, 12:19 PM
Barney the purple dinasaur has been in numerous videos over the last few years, and given that there have been no confirmed reports that he is not real, its quite reasonable to assume he is.
I see, so your actual position is that these people simply dont exist?
Ok, then there is little more to be said about whether they are actually still alive or not.
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