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| Topic Started: Feb 6 2008, 07:49 PM (288 Views) | |
| esopxe | Feb 6 2008, 07:49 PM Post #1 |
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Becoming a delegate takes less time than it does to read the following: PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN WIN THE NOMINATION AND STOP LISTENING TO THE MSM FOR YOUR INFO! Posted February 6th, 2008 by SGP I hope someone will put this on the front page so it doesn't get lost. The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop gettin g your info from the MSM. I know many of you are bummed about yesterday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee. First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters i s if 1 person receives 1192 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain has 600 delegates now and he doesn't reach 1192 most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 600 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates. So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish. This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention. The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008 SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN? This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message. Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates. Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination? NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works. We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states. Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day. So please STOP you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination. I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not. NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING! Dr. Steve Parent |
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| Colonel | Feb 6 2008, 09:42 PM Post #2 |
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From where does this idea come? |
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| arbor | Feb 6 2008, 10:00 PM Post #3 |
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Ron Paul should now focus on the general election. He is a good man, but he has lost the race for the Republican nomination. He needs more then 1,000 delegates to win, and he has 16 at this moment. |
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| esopxe | Feb 7 2008, 02:53 AM Post #4 |
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I don't follow that part either. |
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| Reggie_perrin | Feb 7 2008, 08:12 AM Post #5 |
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at least 42 according to his website, still not huge numbers but anyway, if this goes tits up he should run as a 3rd part candidate, possibly for the libertarian party. Ron Paul's a clever guy, the most intelligent candidate on either side of the race, the RP supporter should carry on to support him whatever he chooses to do now. |
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| look-up | Feb 7 2008, 11:36 AM Post #6 |
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I don't pretend to understand this whole delegate system at all really. It's confusing as hell, and every state seems to be doing it differently. If you ask me, it's a way to keep regular people out of the process, and hard-core party alumnists in the inner circle of politics. In a sideways manner, it seems to be a way of disenfranchising Americans from choosing who their major party candidates will be, thus filtering the choices down to a few party insiders, who will keep the status quo basically the same. This way, it is very difficult to get a truly "anti-establishment" candidate as one of the frontrunners. If anyone wants to explain more about how the delegate-selection process works, please do. I am basically clueless on this part of the process. |
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| Rich | Feb 8 2008, 04:27 AM Post #7 |
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Last I heard he had 14 delegates, which is damn shame...but doesn't McCain have about 600-700+? How on earth can we catch up on that? |
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| esopxe | Feb 8 2008, 03:11 PM Post #8 |
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February 06, 2008 Ron Paul National Delegate Count Now 42 or More FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – With the results of many of the “Super Tuesday” primaries and caucuses now finalized, the Ron Paul campaign is now projecting that it has at least 42 delegates to the national convention secured. While much of the focus in yesterday’s Super Tuesday contests focused on preference poll numbers, Ron Paul caucus-goers were focused on securing delegates to the national convention. With dedicated supporters and an organization focused purely on securing delegates, the campaign has secured more delegates to the national convention in Minneapolis-St. Paul than caucus straw polls might otherwise suggest. According to campaign projections, a minimum of 24 delegates were won in yesterday’s contests. When added to projected delegates coming from strong showings in Iowa (4), Nevada (8), Louisiana (3) and Maine (3), that brings the total delegate count to 42 delegates or more. "Our goal has always been to walk into the national GOP convention with as many delegates as possible," said Ron Paul 2008 campaign manager Lew Moore. "The number of delegates we won yesterday could very well be the difference in a Convention where no one has a first-ballot majority. With Dr. Paul’s home state of Texas coming up, we feel we can enter the convention with a substantial number of delegates." Entire Article: http://ronpaul2008.typepad.com/ron_paul_2008/2008/02/ron-paul-nation.html |
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| Rich | Feb 8 2008, 06:17 PM Post #9 |
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But even still, although its better than 14, its not anywhere near 600+. I pray that it will all change around though... |
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| Hierosis | Feb 11 2008, 12:00 PM Post #10 |
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OK, seems that Arbor and I always turn into the voices of reason here, but it's time to face reality. IT'S OVER. Ron Paul WILL NOT BE THE REPUBLICAN nominee. At this point he'll be lucky if they even seat his delegates at the convention. There is absolutely no way, mathematically or otherwise, that Paul can overcome McCain at this point. I have to admit, I am very disappointed in Paul. When I read the email he sent on Thursday I thought I was going to throw up. When he explained that there would be "no third party run" because he is a proud Republican, I was mystified. I can't believe that this guy, who I gave money to, and people around the country rallied for in droves, feels more of an obligation to the Republican party than the people who supported him. Edited by Hierosis, Feb 11 2008, 10:24 PM.
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