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| Mark Roberts Is An Impotent Pathetic Coward; Another Loyal Bushie LIAR Is Exposed | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 5 2008, 11:02 AM (652 Views) | |
| Terral | Feb 5 2008, 11:02 AM Post #1 |
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Greetings to All with Mark Roberts Fan (MRF), Red Dawn, Caustic Logic, Killtown, the CIT boys and others mentioned: Anyone who knows me recognizes the fact that I love a Bible Truth or 911Truth debate perhaps more than anyone here. You give your side and I will give mine and everyone else can decide if either of us has things right, OR if both sides are full of themselves and without a clue. Red Dawn challenged me to head over to the JREF Board and debate those guys on these 911Truth topics, which I have been doing on and off since last summer. If any of you have a new venue where I can debate ANYONE on any of these 911Truth Topics, then send me the information and we can begin hashing out our differences before the end of the day. I never heard of Mark Roberts (aka Gravy from JREF) until reading this LC thread in this Loose Change Skeptic’s Forum with pathetic drivel from “Mark Roberts Fan” with this signature in bold red letters defying the visionaries of this fine Board.
While my 911Truth explanations do not mirror those of these LC Board creators, I will continue defending them against every attack I see from anyone anywhere; because at least they allow everyone the same level playing field to present our cases whether they agree with us or not. I also disagree with the CIT boys, Caustic Logic and many other members to this Board, but I will also stand up for your right to present your 911Truth views like everybody else. However, to top everything else off, this Gravy (Mark Roberts) COWARD endorses anti-Loose Change propaganda all over his JREF Board that you can see at the top of the Conspiracies Forum here. If one of these LC guys breaks wind, then these JREF guys start another Sticky thread to begin their stupidity. Therefore, I took it upon myself to head over to the JREF Board and challenge Marky (heh) to a real debate on one of his own threads here. Skeptic4Sure’s Flight 77 Impact Thread. I was forced to pull up this thread from 2006, because Marky (Gravy) has no “AA77 Hit The Pentagon” Threads anywhere on that Board. However, since Gravy Train is a big wheel over at the JREF Board, they deliberately changed the Opening Post information and removed his name from the thread entirely. :0) This is how the OP originally appeared:
My challenge was originally given in Post #3, but the names have been changed to protect the guilty. :0) I then sent a PM to Gravy, who averages 20 posts per day AND was drafting replies at that very moment, asking him to please send a reply to my queries. Did Gravy run right over there to begin hauling out his “AA77 Hit The Pentagon” evidence? No! He had the thread moved to the “Abandon All Hope” “Members Only” trash can to hide his embarrassment and shame from the JREF ‘readers.’ :0) However, Gravy’s original challenge to Skeptic4Sure was restored here, as if HE has no reply. :0) For Gravy (Mark Roberts) to pull this trickery in light of his MRF crony parading around here is the height of arrogance and cowardice in the same impotent and cowardly breath. Now I am being sent emails from other JREF members telling me to change my ways and to stop challenging Marky (heh), or I will be banned. What a bunch of impotent cowards! :0) If these guys cannot debate the 911Truth on a level playing field, and must play these stupid underhanded games, then continuing to post there really means nothing at all. Painter moved my work to the his trash can and banned me for no reason ‘and’ banned my IP to try and stop me from even reading anything from his PilotsFor-Painter’s-Truth Website (Killtown did worse). However, does his underhanded trickery serve the 911Truth and those readers, OR is he guilty of suppressing the truth in his unrighteousness? Mark Roberts is a COWARD on the run with NO CASE for Flight 77 crashing anywhere, but he cannot hide forever and eventually he will be cornered like the scared dog he really turned out to be. I challenge Mark Roberts to a 911Truth Pentagon Debate on his "AA77 Hit The Pentagon" Loyal Bushie Cover Story right here on the LC Board, if he has the courage to even show his face here. If anyone here can locate commentary on Marky's Pentagon Explanations, and will kindly post them to this thread, then I will be more than happy to come behind and blow his pathetic little dingy out of the water. Then his Loyal Fan can stand in for his cowardly mentor . . . GL, Terral |
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| truckin_with_christ | Feb 5 2008, 11:09 AM Post #2 |
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Mark has a page wtc7lies.googlepages.com you could probably find the pentagon information there. |
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| Terral | Feb 5 2008, 11:23 AM Post #3 |
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Hi Truckin with Mark Roberts Fan mentioned: Thank you for writing. You wrote,
Thank you very much for posting the link, so I can go through and point out the nonsense of his Official Cover Story stupidity. What I am really hoping for is "Mark Roberts' Commentary" from Mark Roberts Fan or anyone else for ‘which they are in agreement.’ That way the member posting his tripe can stand and defend the nonsense from his commentary. Until then, I am forced to paste whatever I wish from the link you provided to point out the errors. When you are dealing with cowards, unwilling to stand and debate these topics like men, then this is just about the best we can do under the circumstances. Mr. Mark Roberts Fan can jump in and begin defending his hero at any time . . . Thanks again, Terral Edited by Terral, Feb 5 2008, 11:27 AM.
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| JFK | Feb 5 2008, 11:31 AM Post #4 |
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Actually he can not... had you looked you would realize he has been banned. |
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| Terral | Feb 5 2008, 01:47 PM Post #5 |
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Greetings to All: Since Truckin was kind enough to point us to Marky’s work, then I went down the list to find his Pentagon Explanations to write this rebuttal. Pentagon Attack & Flight 77 Evidence Summary & Links First of all, the idea that this page contains any AA77 and Pentagon “Evidence Summary” is hilarious, because we see no pictures of the little 18-feet 3-inch second story impact hole. :0) Where is the part about no windows being broken on the third floor, or the fact that only seven feet is present between the tops of these cable spools and the still-intact second floor? :0) Since when does a real 100-Ton Jetliner going 533 miles per hour create this kind of damage to a Limestone Masonry Wall? No sir. This ‘evidence summary’ (heh) is nothing more than Loyal Bushie Fabricated LIES generated by a clear distortion of the facts. This Loyal Bushie Disinformation Crony (being kind) points these readers to Department of Defense Propaganda in his first link atop the page and to more “US State Department” Bullony in the second link. In fact, I already see enough Loyal Bushie Counterintelligence stupidity to make this 911Truther sick to his stomach. He writes,
That’s right. Then this guy sends you off to JREF land to read more of his Bullony, when the American Airlines Documentation clearly says AA77 was canceled on 9/11 shown here. How can AA77 be lost on radar, when American Airlines has zeroed out all the ‘time’ data, because this flight was canceled like most of the others on the list? :0) Perhaps Mark’s investigation should have started with the American Airlines Departure records, before he begins losing a canceled flight on radar . . . Mark then sends you off again to JREF-land under his “Witnesses” heading, as if we are supposed to believe ‘talk, talk, talk’ rather that his physical evidence. Listing a million witnesses does no good at all, when the Flight was canceled and nothing this guy says amounts to a hill of rotten beans. I want to see Mark’s pictures of a crashed 100-Ton Jetliner where Senor Bushie says it crashed at 9:43 AM on 9/11 into the west side of the Pentagon. Mark Roberts the Official Cover Story crony is giving us ‘talk, talk, talk’ about witnesses, instead of producing real evidence for AA77 even leaving the cotton picking airport. :0) We are supposed to believe his witnesses, even if their combined testimony place AA77 nowhere near the Pentagon on 9/11 or any other day. He writes,
So what? Many people claim that Flight 93 crashed into this empty 20-feet diameter hole (News story) too, but obviously they were mistaken as much as you. Just how many different ways do you want to see the empty hole outside Shanksville (go see the pictures here too)? :0) And yet, Mark can drag out tons of witnesses proclaiming with a single voice that a real 100-Ton Jetliner (heh) crashed into that empty hole no more than just 4 feet deep (see for yourself + my LC thread). If a real 100-Ton Jetliner did one of these numbers (the movie) into the Pentagon (never happened), then why not simply produce the physical evidence to remove all doubt? :0) We have 110 military experts saying no 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon, starting with General Wesley Clark, so what does Mark’s witnesses know that these military experts do not know? :0) Colonel George Nelson reveals that the government has refused to produce even one 'time-change' part for any of these related 9/11 cases, which proves beyond all doubt that we have been looking at Loyal Bushie LIES from the very beginning. Yes, something did crash into the Pentagon (my explanation), but that had NOTHING to do with any 100-Ton Jetliner. All of Mark’s ‘witness’ testimony here is meaningless, until he can corroborate their testimony with the AA77 evidence collected at the Pentagon. Mark continues,
Yes, a plane hit the Pentagon using the “North of Citgo Flight Path” at 9:36:27 AM (bottom pic), but that had NOTHING to do with any 100-Ton Jetliner. No 757-200 Jetliner engine was anywhere near the Pentagon, which is nothing more but Marky’s Loyal Bushie Fantasy. This is Mark’s ‘claim’ for which he has no physical evidence at all. NONE. The witnesses to the Jet crashing into the Pentagon describe a small commuter plane here (Michael Kelly) and here (Don Wright). Again NONE of Mark’s ‘eyewitness’ testimony means anything, until he can match that to the evidence of what really hit the Pentagon. Next, Marky begins assaulting our CIT guys in this report, saying,
Well, even a blind hog roots up an acorn every now and then. :0) The difference here is that the witnesses directly under the 9:31:39 AM DoD Jet saw a BIG plane, while those standing at a distance saw a smaller twin-engine Jet.
Yes. Many witnesses read the “American Airlines” logo information right off the side of the DoD retrofitted and painted-up flying BOMB that made two attack runs on the E-Ring wall, but knocking down the light poles at 9:31:39 AM was not part of the plan. That is the reason this same DoD Jet made a wide turn to the north to impact the E-Ring wall just over four minutes later at 9:36:27 AM. Many Pentagon witnesses (including most all of you) were tricked by this DoD ploy, but some of us definitely know the difference. Many of the 9:31:39 AM Plane witnesses saw light poles flying around, but the 9:36:27 AM witnesses saw none.
While I find errors in the Loose Change Videos too [nobody consults me about these things :0) ], these light poles were taken down by the starboard wing of the same retrofitted Military Jet that created this debris at the 9:36 second attack. You see AA decals and colors on this debris, because the DoD inside-job bad guys put it there long before these 9/11 attacks began to fool the witnesses into allowing them to get away with murdering innocent Americans. These Loyal Bushie Official Cover Story Cronies are just as guilty for running diversion part of the DoD Cover-Up Operation.
Senor Bushie says 19 Bearded Jihadist Radicals carried out ‘all’ of the 9/11 attacks, so Mark ‘the Coward’ Roberts is in the ‘Conspiracy’ Business just as much as anyone with an alternative 911Truth Explanation. This sounds funny coming from a guy I perceive to be the biggest coward of anyone. Talking to people just as deluded as Marky about the Pentagon 911Truth, without the corroborating AA77 evidence, is throwing effort after his own foolishness. This Loyal Bushie LIAR would not know the 911Truth if it came up and bit him on the backside to say, “What's Shaking Besides You?” This ridiculous paper is supposed to be about Pentagon and AA77 evidence, but Mark Gravy-man Roberts will not shut up about all of this conflicting ‘witness’ testimony long enough to show us one picture of the E-Ring wall damage or the pictures of 'his' crashed 100-Ton Jetliner. :0) The Alan Wallace testimony is more meaningless drivel, because this does nothing to match the AA77 hype to the tangible AA77 evidence found inside the Pentagon, which Marky appears reluctant to even address. Do you know why? I do. :0) Mark then presents this single picture of the single impact hole, when his theory says a 125-feet wide 100-Ton Jetliner crashed into the Pentagon, which should look more like this. Someone please ask Gravy (Mark) here how two (plural) 6-ton Rolls Royce engines going 533 miles per hour (now that is fast - heh) create a single 8 to 10-feet diameter C-Ring exit hole with this damage present along the way? :0) How did a real 100-Ton Jetliner crash into this standing E-Ring wall? Here is the deal in a nutshell: Marky here is deathly afraid of having his Official Cover Story Fantasies destroyed, so he avoids addressing the myriad of Pentagon Pictures and Pentagon Expert Military Witnesses that directly oppose his Loyal Bushie stupidity. He ran around to find people with ‘talk, talk, talk,’ that simply does NOT match the evidence of what really hit the Pentagon ‘and’ what the ‘evidence’ truly says. If anyone wishes to stand in for Mark Roberts and defend his Loyal Bushie LIES, then this is your grand opportunity. Bring it! We are all waiting . . . GL, Terral Edited by Terral, Feb 6 2008, 11:13 AM.
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