JFK

Feb 5 2008, 04:16 PM

What I find absolutely amazing is that very few "tourists" actually "get" the implications of what is inscribed on those rocks.
If you are in a room with 7 people total for the inscription to come true, 6 would have to die.

JFK

Feb 5 2008, 04:16 PM

truckin_with_christ

Feb 5 2008, 03:04 PM

What I find interesting the timeframe of that erection by "Mr. Christian".

That all depends upon how much Viagra he took.
















Sorry, couldn't resist.

Edited by HeyLeroy, Feb 5 2008, 05:07 PM.

truckin_with_christ

Feb 6 2008, 08:31 AM

They are not my claims.
- Sure are
They are not "generalities".
- They way you are using them they are.
They are not claims about the Mujahideen.
- Yes they are.

They are very specific claims made by a very credible journalist regarding Osama Bin Laden and the CIA who has interviewed many of the top Taleban officials, and has reported on the region for 30 years.

- The same journalist who claimed that Steve Colls book was better than the CIA could write it. Steve Coll makes no connection of Bin Laden to the CIA and says that no missions were sanctioned by the US to go into the Soviet Union.

"He brought in engineers from his father's company and heavy construction equipment to build roads and warehouses for the Mujaheddin. In 1986, he helped build a CIA-financed tunnel complex, to serve as a major arms storage depot, training facility and medical center for the Mujaheddin, deep under the mountains close to the Pakistan border." - Ahmed Rashid

- Once again now that he has had years of research i would imagine he does not see it this way. We learn from Mohammed Yousaf of the ISI that the CIA did not give orders to build this facility, it was ISI and "using largely Saudi funds". Once again take a look at Ghost Wars (Ahmed's comments are on the back).

Quote:
- All of the CIA's effort happened inside of the Pakistani boarder over fear the Russia could find substantial links and retaliate.
"Where do you think the Russians thought the Stinger Missiles came from?"

- Isreal, China, Germany, England.... who ever the united states traded with. That is why I said Substantial Links they would still have to prove American involvment.

Quote:
The CIA did send agents across the boarder to establish links outside of ISI controll. These agents were always watching to make sure KGB did not catch on to them.
"We is good guys, we is clever, dem is bad guys, dem is stupid, you paint it like a bad world war II film!"

- I almost forgot that I was dealing with 911 truthers. Just because you have no fear of death does not mean others dont. Afghanistan was KGB domain and if the CIA Agents were caught it would be T.S. for them

Quote:
Maybe you could clear this up when we talk about khost tunnels are we talking about the "lions den"?
"No".

- Good, I have heard people put CIA connections there aswell.

Quote:

 

They are not my claims.
- Sure are

Quote:

 

They are not "generalities".
- They way you are using them they are.
They are not claims about the Mujahideen.
- Yes they are.

Quote:

 

They are very specific claims made by a very credible journalist regarding Osama Bin Laden and the CIA who has interviewed many of the top Taleban officials, and has reported on the region for 30 years.

- The same journalist who claimed that Steve Colls book was better than the CIA could write it. Steve Coll makes no connection of Bin Laden to the CIA and says that no missions were sanctioned by the US to go into the Soviet Union.

Quote:

 

"He brought in engineers from his father's company and heavy construction equipment to build roads and warehouses for the Mujaheddin. In 1986, he helped build a CIA-financed tunnel complex, to serve as a major arms storage depot, training facility and medical center for the Mujaheddin, deep under the mountains close to the Pakistan border." - Ahmed Rashid

- Once again now that he has had years of research i would imagine he does not see it this way.

Quote:

 

We learn from Mohammed Yousaf of the ISI that the CIA did not give orders to build this facility, it was ISI and "using largely Saudi funds". Once again take a look at Ghost Wars (Ahmed's comments are on the back).

Quote:

 

Quote:
- All of the CIA's effort happened inside of the Pakistani boarder over fear the Russia could find substantial links and retaliate.
"Where do you think the Russians thought the Stinger Missiles came from?"

- Isreal, China, Germany, England.... who ever the united states traded with. That is why I said Substantial Links they would still have to prove American involvment.

Quote:

 

Quote:
The CIA did send agents across the boarder to establish links outside of ISI controll. These agents were always watching to make sure KGB did not catch on to them.
"We is good guys, we is clever, dem is bad guys, dem is stupid, you paint it like a bad world war II film!"

- I almost forgot that I was dealing with 911 truthers. Just because you have no fear of death does not mean others dont. Afghanistan was KGB domain and if the CIA Agents were caught it would be T.S. for them

no family

Feb 3 2008, 02:34 AM

But the United States Government has to:

-find many, many, many people who have the stomach for killing an estimated 3,000 innocent human beings (people who did not provoke attacks - these are not casualties of a war)
-find a few Americans who, if the price is right, are willing to have their own family members killed and be a part of this government conspiracy
-tell these people what your plan is and hope they keep their mouth shut without becoming a whistle-blower
-make sure these people are competent in their various jobs relating to carrying out the plot
-pay them lots of money to not only follow through with all this, but keep their mouth shut for life (this is probably the most expensive part)
-secure "fake?" airplanes
-pay various emergency response officials to lie or ignore certain things
-pay various media outlets to lie, cover-up, ignore certain things (and hope to God they dont ultimately realize that blowing the lid off 9/11 would be the biggest news story in human history)
-design or find bombs that wont be found
-deliver them to the locations without being noticed
-hide various bombs in various buildings without being noticed
-hope to god that nobody finds those bombs after they are planted (it could be days, even weeks between planting the bombs and detonating them, all the while people will be working near them - office workers, maintenance, etc)
-find or build fake plane wreckage
-store fake plane wreckage where no one will find it
-plant fake plane wreckage without anyone seeing you do so
-kidnap the actual passengers of United 93????
-force them to call their families and make up stories???
-use voice enhancers so that you sound like the real passengers as you call their families????
-hold the real passengers against their will in a hidden location????
-kill the real passengers and completely hide the evidence, including their bodies???
-willfully demolish lower manhattan
-willfully damage the pentagon
-come up with cover-up stories (like for example, damaging the pentagon with a missle, but, for some reason, say it was a plane)
-pay various US military officials to stand down
-seriously screw up your own economy on mulitple levels
-pray EVERY SINGLE NIGHT that all of the sensitive materials & documents that were in the buildings you bombed were all completely destroyed (they might be buried and not been found yet, like some of the bodies)
-pray EVERY SINGLE NIGHT that nobody involved is ever arrested for some kind of (unrelated to 9/11) government corruption and decides to blow the whistle in exchange for immunity.
-pray EVERY SINGLE NIGHT that nobody involved realizes, on their own, what they are a part of and decides to blow the whistle
-pray EVERY SINGLE NIGHT that nobody involved realizes what they are a part of and decides to commit suicide out of severe guilt (it happens) and leaves behind the incriminating evidence of a US government conspiracy to plan, execute and cover-up the unprecedanted 9/11 attacks of 2001
-finally...refelct....think to yourself - was it all worth it? Did we achieve our goal by going through all this trouble? Was THIS the best way to reach that goal? Was this the only way to do it? I really hope we didnt go out of our way.