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Who can spot the connection?; Winner gets an ‘E’ prize
Topic Started: Oct 9 2008, 03:59 PM (802 Views)
Travis	Oct 9 2008, 03:59 PM Post #1
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Who can spot the connection? I will give you a clue: they have all pledged unconditional support to the state of …… Past and present US presidents US Presidential candidates German Chancellor French President Edited by Travis, Oct 9 2008, 04:08 PM.
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Flippy	Oct 9 2008, 05:23 PM Post #2
Posts: 305 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	It is not the state of Israel. It is the state of Palestine.
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Travis	Oct 9 2008, 05:26 PM Post #3
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Flippy Oct 9 2008, 05:23 PM It is not the state of Israel. It is the state of Palestine. Please explain Flippy, you could still win the special E prize Edited by Travis, Oct 9 2008, 05:27 PM.
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Flippy	Oct 9 2008, 05:29 PM Post #4
Posts: 305 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	The tie is that they have all stated their "love" for Israel. They are all Zionists benefiting from the world bank and the sheep called humanity. I don't like calling it Israel. It is Palestine. Watch Tony Blair on The Daily Show a few weeks back. Even he did not call it Israel. He called the land by it's original and still true name. Palestine.
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Travis	Oct 9 2008, 05:42 PM Post #5
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Flippy Oct 9 2008, 05:29 PM The tie is that they have all stated their "love" for Israel. They are all Zionists benefiting from the world bank and the sheep called humanity. I don't like calling it Israel. It is Palestine. Watch Tony Blair on The Daily Show a few weeks back. Even he did not call it Israel. He called the land by it's original and still true name. Palestine. Wow Flippy, that's a first prize for you! On a serious note. A Palestinian state does not exist, the land Palestine does but is occupied by a Zionist entity called Israel. Furthermore, it may be incorrect to call Israel a state as it does not have any definable borders. Lets see if any other board members can give some prize worthy answers?
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Flippy	Oct 9 2008, 07:44 PM Post #6
Posts: 305 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	Can you enlighten me on the fabulous pixels I won? ;p
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Travis	Oct 9 2008, 07:50 PM Post #7
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Flippy Oct 9 2008, 07:44 PM Can you enlighten me on the fabulous pixels I won? ;p Sorry Flippy, my mistake. In the UK they have a children's show called 'Blue Peter'. And the special children, who win prizes, get 'Blue Peter badges'. A blue peter badge gets you free entrance into museums and other fun places. You can read all about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Peter_badge But I don't think a 'E' version works in the same way, but you can always try
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hiphopopotamus	Oct 9 2008, 11:40 PM Post #8
Posts: 69 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: 05/16/08	Oh...My...God... Politicians are supporting the only pro-western democracy in the region. God help us if they decide to befriend Japan. Fuck. Never mind. We are all screwed.
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Flippy	Oct 10 2008, 10:37 AM Post #9
Posts: 305 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	hiphopopotamus Oct 9 2008, 11:40 PM Oh...My...God... Politicians are supporting the only pro-western democracy in the region. God help us if they decide to befriend Japan. Fuck. Never mind. We are all screwed. Wait, didn't we just invade a sovereign nation in Iraq, turn them into a democracy, and John McShame and George Bush told us they'd treat us as liberators, welcome us with open arms, that they'd embrace democracy? Now you're telling me that this is the only democracy in the region? Who am I to believe?? This random guy on the internets, or our elected officials??? Edited by Flippy, Oct 10 2008, 10:38 AM.
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Travis	Oct 10 2008, 12:03 PM Post #10
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	hiphopopotamus Oct 9 2008, 11:40 PM Oh...My...God... Politicians are supporting the only pro-western democracy in the region. God help us if they decide to befriend Japan. Fuck. Never mind. We are all screwed. Yo Hipho. Israel is not the only pro-western democracy in the region. Ever heard of a place called Lebanon, you know the country that Israel blew to bits back in the summer of 2006. However, Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system, the only country in the region to have nuclear weapons, and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours. Also Israel is the only country in the region that has refused to sign a UN resolution to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region. Edited by Travis, Oct 10 2008, 12:05 PM.
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TheEconomist	Oct 10 2008, 01:35 PM Post #11
Posts: 5 Group: BANNED! Member #886 Joined: 10/10/08	Travis Oct 10 2008, 12:03 PM hiphopopotamus Oct 9 2008, 11:40 PM Oh...My...God... Politicians are supporting the only pro-western democracy in the region. God help us if they decide to befriend Japan. Fuck. Never mind. We are all screwed. Yo Hipho. Israel is not the only pro-western democracy in the region. Ever heard of a place called Lebanon, you know the country that Israel blew to bits back in the summer of 2006. However, Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system, the only country in the region to have nuclear weapons, and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours. Also Israel is the only country in the region that has refused to sign a UN resolution to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region. Lebanon, the same nation that was occupied by Syria? I wonder why you left that part out of your ~~Israel bashing~~ historic review.
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Travis	Oct 10 2008, 01:56 PM Post #12
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: Lebanon, the same nation that was occupied by Syria? I wonder why you left that part out of your Israel bashing historic review. What has Syria's occupation got to do with the acts of terrorism committed by the political entity known as Israel. When Israel invaded and blew Lebanon to bits Lebanon was a state free from Syrian occupation, so what's the relevance? Do not attempt to divert attention away from the crimes of Israel, shame on you! Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system, the only country in the region that has nuclear weapons, and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours. Also Israel is the only country in the region that has refused to sign a UN resolution to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region. Edited by Travis, Oct 10 2008, 01:59 PM.
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little_aisha	Oct 10 2008, 05:25 PM Post #13
Posts: 17 Group: BANNED! Member #887 Joined: 10/10/08	Israel were defending themselves against rocket attacks by a well entrenched and well armed terrorist organisation in South Lebanon, armed by Syria and Iran. Are you seriously suggesting that they should not respond to constant missile attacks? As to the rest of your post, Quote: "Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system" You had best clarify what you mean by that with concrete examples. Quote: "the only country in the region that has nuclear weapons" As far as I am aware they have neither affirmed nor denied this. Hence your next statement... Quote: "and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours." ....needs some explanation also. Quote: "Also Israel is the only country in the region that has refused to sign a UN resolution to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region." Whys that then? Do you think maybe Israel wants nuclear weapons proliferated around the middle east? How do you think this is in Israels interest? Or maybe they wont sign such a declaration because that would be tacitly admitting they actually had nuclear weapons to proliferate? Edited by little_aisha, Oct 10 2008, 05:29 PM.
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JFK	Oct 10 2008, 05:59 PM Post #14
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mynameis	Oct 10 2008, 06:28 PM Post #15
Internet Jujitsu Posts: 1,438 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: 01/15/08	little_aisha Oct 10 2008, 05:25 PM Quote: "and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours." ....needs some explanation also. As far as I am aware they have neither affirmed nor denied this. Hence your next statement... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option Edited by mynameis, Oct 10 2008, 06:32 PM.



mynameis	Oct 10 2008, 06:30 PM Post #16
Internet Jujitsu Posts: 1,438 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: 01/15/08	little_aisha Oct 10 2008, 05:25 PM Israel were defending themselves against rocket attacks by a well entrenched and well armed terrorist organisation in South Lebanon, armed by Syria and Iran. Are you seriously suggesting that they should not respond to constant missile attacks? As to the rest of your post, Quote: "Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system" You had best clarify what you mean by that with concrete examples. Since the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000, over 1,000 Palestinian & Israeli children have been killed. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/newsfull.php?newid=100918



Tim Riches	Oct 10 2008, 06:58 PM Post #17
By His Noodly Appendage, Ramen. Posts: 330 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: 01/23/08	At first I was going to respond that Travis was predictably bashing Israel, being a Muslim. However, nothing he has said is untrue. America's alliance with - and interference from - Israel is disturbing on many levels. Israel is clearly a nuclear power, and their ambiguity about this only makes the situation worse. The fact is that Israel is the only country in the Middle East with nuclear weapons, and refusing to adhere to the NPT is a matter that undermines peace and security in the region. Clearly this policy of nuclear ambiguity encourages other nations in the region, most notably Iran, to persue a similar capability for self-defense. Additionally, it has been said in another thread, rightly, that no US Presidential candidate could be elected that is non-religious. I would add that no candidate could even be considered that had not kowtowed publicly to AIPAC and Tel Aviv in the fashion pictured above. Edited by Tim Riches, Oct 10 2008, 07:02 PM.



TheEconomist	Oct 11 2008, 05:33 AM Post #18
Posts: 5 Group: BANNED! Member #886 Joined: 10/10/08	Travis Oct 10 2008, 01:56 PM Quote: Lebanon, the same nation that was occupied by Syria? I wonder why you left that part out of your Israel bashing historic review. What has Syria's occupation got to do with the acts of terrorism committed by the political entity known as Israel. When Israel invaded and blew Lebanon to bits Lebanon was a state free from Syrian occupation, so what's the relevance? Do not attempt to divert attention away from the crimes of Israel, shame on you! Israel is the only country in the region that has an apartheid system, the only country in the region that has nuclear weapons, and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours. Also Israel is the only country in the region that has refused to sign a UN resolution to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the region. Oh, you were talking about Israel ... yet you disguised it as if you made a reference to Lebanon, good to know.
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little_aisha	Oct 11 2008, 09:44 AM Post #19
Posts: 17 Group: BANNED! Member #887 Joined: 10/10/08	mynameis Oct 10 2008, 06:28 PM little_aisha Oct 10 2008, 05:25 PM Quote: "and the only country in the region to have threatened to use nuclear weapons against it neighbours." ....needs some explanation also. As far as I am aware they have neither affirmed nor denied this. Hence your next statement... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option So you post a wikipaedia article which quotes "The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence," Not very convincing really. When did Israel threaten to use nuclear weapons against its neighbours? Can you produce some quotes from Israeli leaders or Israeli military or not? Edited by little_aisha, Oct 11 2008, 09:47 AM.
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little_aisha	Oct 11 2008, 09:49 AM Post #20
Posts: 17 Group: BANNED! Member #887 Joined: 10/10/08	Quote: "Since the beginning of the second intifada in September 2000, over 1,000 Palestinian & Israeli children have been killed." And this means Israel has an apartheid system how exactly? You need to do better. Edited by little_aisha, Oct 11 2008, 09:49 AM.
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Travis	Oct 11 2008, 11:25 AM Post #21
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: And this means Israel has an apartheid system how exactly? You need to do better. Being a Zionist you should not need to ask such a question because accroding to ‘extreme’ 'Zionist' beliefs the 'Goym' is equivalent to an animal/cattle. Furthermore, the treatment of the indigenous Arab population by the occupying Zionists is well documented, and is comparable to an apartheid system on many levels. I am away from home and do not have access to my books, but when I do I will answer some your doubts in detail. However, in the mean time can you answer this question; do you condemn acts of terrorism committed by the founders of Israel such as the bombing of the king David hotel, which was the greatest terrorist act of its time? Edited by Travis, Oct 11 2008, 12:31 PM.
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little_aisha	Oct 11 2008, 04:11 PM Post #22
Posts: 17 Group: BANNED! Member #887 Joined: 10/10/08	Quote: "Furthermore, the treatment of the indigenous Arab population by the occupying Zionists is well documented, and is comparable to an apartheid system on many levels." An apartheid system that gives Arab Israelis full citizenship rights? Quote: Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court. Heres an example of an actual apartheid regime. Quote: Under apartheid, black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the population. Laws dictated where they could live, work and travel. And, in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and speech. Some of the government's harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who are members of the Knesset. Edited by little_aisha, Oct 11 2008, 04:16 PM.
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Travis	Oct 11 2008, 04:14 PM Post #23
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	little_aisha Oct 11 2008, 04:11 PM "Furthermore, the treatment of the indigenous Arab population by the occupying Zionists is well documented, and is comparable to an apartheid system on many levels." An apartheid system that gives Arab Israelis equal voting rights? Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens who enjoy equal rights. Arabs are represented in the Knesset, and have served in the Cabinet, high-level foreign ministry posts (e.g., Ambassador to Finland) and on the Supreme Court. Under apartheid, black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they formed the overwhelming majority of the population. Laws dictated where they could live, work and travel. And, in South Africa, the government killed blacks who protested against its policies. By contrast, Israel allows freedom of movement, assembly and speech. Some of the government's harshest critics are Israeli Arabs who are members of the Knesset. Would you like to explain Israel's treatment of the Palestinians in the occupied territories. Furthermore answer the question: Do you condemn acts of terrorism committed by the founders of Israel such as the bombing of the king David hotel, which was the greatest terrorist act of its time? Edited by Travis, Oct 11 2008, 04:20 PM.
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little_aisha	Oct 11 2008, 04:17 PM Post #24
Posts: 17 Group: BANNED! Member #887 Joined: 10/10/08	I condemn all terrorism, Travis. Do you?
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Travis	Oct 11 2008, 04:22 PM Post #25
Posts: 277 Group: Members Member #82 Joined: 01/16/08	Yes I do. But I want you to do is state, in clear terms, that those who blew up the King David hotel are terrorists, and I want to hear you condemn them. Do you think you can bring your self to do that? If you can we can move onto the next step. Edited by Travis, Oct 11 2008, 04:26 PM.
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