My thoughts on the hijackers.

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My thoughts on the hijackers.
Topic Started: Oct 9 2008, 01:25 PM (278 Views)
trust_nobody	Oct 9 2008, 01:25 PM Post #1
Posts: 9 Group: Members Member #884 Joined: 10/08/08	I have not investigated to much into the alleged hijackers. I felt it was just a minor detail only to solidify the propaganda set fourth by the Bush administration. However my initial thoughts regarding these hijackers is as follows. I believe all the supposed terrorists were in fact condemed to die from where ever the were actually from. I believe they were recruited by the CIA or another rogue element within our goverment.They were given an ultimatum to conduct this operation or die for the crimes they initially commited in the first place.They were trained in a crude manner, more then likely on simulators or similar aircraft used in 9/11. There families were compinsated in some fashion to never speak the truth about this. It isnt to far out of reality if you think about it.More then likely this is how it really happend given the fact the FBI allready had there information and reacted so swiftly because the story line was allready in place. They had to follow the role. Everything was carefully planned out and the media would actually make the American people bite the hook.
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Grit1645	Oct 9 2008, 05:45 PM Post #2
Posts: 248 Group: Members Member #797 Joined: 08/12/08	trust_nobody Oct 9 2008, 01:25 PM I have not investigated to much into the alleged hijackers. I felt it was just a minor detail only to solidify the propaganda set fourth by the Bush administration. However my initial thoughts regarding these hijackers is as follows. I believe all the supposed terrorists were in fact condemed to die from where ever the were actually from. I believe they were recruited by the CIA or another rogue element within our goverment.They were given an ultimatum to conduct this operation or die for the crimes they initially commited in the first place.They were trained in a crude manner, more then likely on simulators or similar aircraft used in 9/11. There families were compinsated in some fashion to never speak the truth about this. It isnt to far out of reality if you think about it.More then likely this is how it really happend given the fact the FBI allready had there information and reacted so swiftly because the story line was allready in place. They had to follow the role. Everything was carefully planned out and the media would actually make the American people bite the hook. I think this idea has merit. By having actual "hijackers" (some of whom might not have known exactly how things were supposed to play out) everyone else is left to play their roles unawares of any subterfuge. Only a few people need to be involved, and the action once set into motion can follow whatever course the rest of the participants set, with the appropriate retelling later on. For example, the passengers of United 93 overtaking the cockpit and ultimately causing the plane to crash early might not be a planned part of the event, but after it plays out, it is then fit into the story as a "feel good hero tale".
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JackD	Oct 10 2008, 04:46 PM Post #3
Posts: 170 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	first off, there is ZERO hard evidence that has been brought forth to establish that aircraft were hijacked on 9/11/01/ yes it has been incessantly repeated over and over. but the case is circumstantial, and depends more on fantasy movies like Flight 93 than on forensics. there were phone calls and 'keying of the push-to-talk' radio button -- and the flights did go NORDO and no-transponder. lots of nice little bits. like the flight manuals left behind in found luggage. etc. But try and establish a proof for planes-hijacked-by Atta & Co - and you will find a tough job. anyone who alleges that planes were hijacked by arabs, say, a court of law, would have to be able to place the hijackers on board the planes that day. Good luck with that. --- back to your OP -- the 'myth' of 'passengers fighting back' got started in Dick Cheney's PEOC at about 1010am on 9/11 when he said "i think something heroic took place on that plane'' -- adn that meme was circulated like mad by MSM... later we heard the "lets roll" stories... and from there it spiralled into mythology -- a mythology of "america fights back" -- kinda like a Rocky Movie. ... now go back and look at the bios of the alleged hijackers, and see if perhaps the identities of these men (several of whom called newspapers to say 'i'm alive' , having seen their photo & name on TV) is real, in your vie
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trust_nobody	Oct 10 2008, 08:47 PM Post #4
Posts: 9 Group: Members Member #884 Joined: 10/08/08	id like to read the material regardibg the alleged hijackers are still alive. Please provide me with a link so i can read this. I heard this before and canot find the material.
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JackD	Oct 12 2008, 07:37 PM Post #5
Posts: 170 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	google it. there were stories in british press. Guardian. however, none were subsequently corroborated.
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Stundie	Oct 12 2008, 08:44 PM Post #6
Posts: 523 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	I had a look at the claims of the alleged hijackers being alive in the early days of investigating 9/11 and I have to admit, that I didn't find any hard evidence they were actually alive. This is not to say they that I am correct, but as been pointed out, I don't think they were corroborated either. These stories of whether are alive or not as been discussed at length, but with nothing conclusive.
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Headspin	Oct 12 2008, 09:15 PM Post #7
Posts: 773 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	The FBI changed the hijackers names after some of them reported themselves to be alive, then some time later the bbc/guradian/telegraph and middle eastern reports came out reporting other hijakers alive. this is all despite the FBI having access to the passenger manifests within the first hours, but the initial hijackers names were not amongt the "victim lists" or the alleged "fake" manifests discovered in 2005. read first chapter by Jay Kolar for precise details. http://books.google.com/books?id=o9jo_In37aEC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0 ...and the original posters idea is ridiculous, you do not leave something of this magnitude to the whim of unpredictable people, you use computer control to ensure success.
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Stundie	Oct 12 2008, 10:12 PM Post #8
Posts: 523 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	Thanks Headspin. I didn't know that the FBI didn't continue with their investigations. Only a new investigation would we be able to tell one way or another.
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