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WTC-7 Was Taken Down Using Controlled Demolition; The Evidence Is Truly Overwhelming
Topic Started: Feb 2 2008, 12:05 PM (4,599 Views)
Terral
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Greetings to All:

All of the evidence points directly to insider terrorists taking down WTC-7 by Controlled Demolition on 9/11. WTC-7 was designed and built using Compartmentalization of all supporting columns and beams separated by solid concrete slabs horizontally and curtain walls vertically. A building fire has never destroyed a steel-framed skyscraper in US history before or after 9/11 and WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 were owned by Larry “Pull It” Silverstein. Many fail to realize the World Trade Center Towers had never been in private hands prior to the summer of 2001, when Mr. Silverstein received possession from the New York Port Authority.

Cooperative Research Website:

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This is the only time the WTC has ever changed hands since it was opened in 1973 . . . It was previously controlled by the New York Port Authority, a bi-state government agency . . . Larry Silverstein, the president of Silverstein Properties, only uses $14 million of his own money for the deal. His partners put up a further $111 million, and banks provide $563 million in loans . . . . The Port Authority had carried only $1.5 billion in insurance coverage on all its buildings, including the WTC, but Silverstein’s lenders insist on more, eventually demanding $3.55 billion in cover . . . After 9/11, Larry Silverstein will claim the attacks on the World Trade Center constituted two separate events, thereby entitling him to a double payout totaling over $7 billion.

Watch the WTC-7 Collapse Video again:

Use your curser to hold the round scrollbar and move WTC-7 up and down repeatedly. The roof section and the center of the building collapse first, then the two sides plummet at ‘free fall’ velocity like any successful controlled demolition. Before looking at the details of how WTC-7 was built using Compartmentalization of all the steel supports, we need to take a look at the massive building itself.

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All of the WTC-7 steel columns, beams, girders and bar joists were bolted down and welded together into a single unit creating literally thousands of connections that must be severed to cause the catastrophic failure seen from the aftermath of the attack.

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The melting point of WTC-7 structural steel is 1535 degrees Celsius or 2795 degrees Fahrenheit. The first problem with the ‘Fire Caused The Collapse’ Theory is that building fires burn between 800 and 1000 degrees Fahrenheit , or about one third the required temperature to melt structural steel. The second problem is that building fires typically burn for only 20 minutes in any given area, because the fuel is depleted and the fire moves in the direction of a fresh fuel source. The third problem is that steel is an excellent conductor of heat and any steel-framed network would disperse the heat much more quickly than any building fire could raise the temperature to anywhere near ‘steel-softening’ temperatures. Another problem is that all supporting columns were coated with 3-hour ‘spray-on’ fireproofing insulation, which is nine times more protection needed for the typical building fire; even if the required 2800 degree temperatures were reached.

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The website above is perhaps the best on the internet for discovering the truth about the WTC-7 collapse. Moving down the page, Figure 5-3 shows the massive steel network and how certain areas (floors 1-7, 22-24) received extra support.

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This information is very important, because remember WTC-7 collapsed in one single smooth motion, which means extra attention was paid to placing charges to sever these thicker and stronger steel supports. Try to imagine the amount of energy required to break all of these connections simultaneously and you begin to see the ‘building fire theory’ is certainly a hoax. Below you come to Figure 5.3.3 and descriptions of how WTC-7 was built in many separate ‘compartments’ eliminating ‘fire’ as even a remote possibility for causing this collapse.

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Even if two or five or ten fires were started, the fuel source within those particular compartments would be consumed LONG before the fireproofing safety countermeasures were compromised; and the fire had no way to pass through solid concrete slabs or curtain walls to invade the neighboring compartments. This does not even account for the fully functional sprinkler system that had to be turned off for these fires to spread any distance at all. Here is a four minute video to help gain a better perspective on how to weigh the evidence in this case:

Four Minute WTC-7 Collapse Video

“Fire has never destroyed a steel building,” but three steel buildings owned by Larry Silverstein were ‘Pulled’ on 9/11. “Pull it” is controlled demolition lingo for wiring the building up and pulling it down. Mr. Silverstein was obviously lying about speaking to the New York Fire Chief, as the firemen only entered the scene on 9/11 after the Twin Towers attacks. This Fire Chief had no access to Controlled Demolition charges when he arrived at WTC-7 for “Pulling” down the 47-story steel-framed skyscraper that could possibly be placed in a single day. Here we have a few small fires burning on a few floors, but the Fire Chief cannot figure any way to extinguish them. Since the firemen had no time to set all the required charges to “Pull” WTC-7 down in just a few hours, as if firemen even have controlled demolition crews, then Mr. Silverstein just pointed the finger at himself about having prior knowledge of these 9/11 attacks. Now compare our images of WTC-7 and these “Pull It” videos:

Paris Building

Office Building

Landmark Tower Implosion

Many buildings have been demolished using controlled demolition looking exactly like WTC-7 on 9/11, but again, no steel-framed skyscraper has ever collapsed due to fire in the history of this planet. Twenty-first century demolition techniques include the use of Thermite Shaped Charges found all over WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7.

Shaped Charges And The World Trade Center Collapses

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The damage from a thermite shaped charge is exactly what you see above the fireman’s confused head. Note the size of the massive column and the molten iron residue that flowed inside and outside the column.

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Thermite burns at a very high 2500 degrees Centigrade or 4532 degrees Fahrenheit, which represents the kind of temperature required to sever these massive red-iron columns. As a trained demolition supervisor tearing down buildings for many years, I know of nobody using 45-degree angle cuts to remove any red-iron part of any conventional demolition job. This particular column has molten iron residue, which is a ‘Controlled Demolition’ Signature, as any torch cut would blow the molten iron off the column entirely away from the worker. There is no cut from any torch that would leave molten iron residue on the inside and outside of 'all' the sides of a column this way. The idea that any demolition worker would make a 45-degree cut is ridiculous, because of the danger to other workers and the waste of fuel.

Another problem with the Official ‘Fire’ Cover Story is these 45-degree angle shaped-charge cuts appear everywhere . . .

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. . . even in locations where demolition crew workers could not possibly reach. The common practice is to remove steel debris in an orderly ‘pick and remove’ manner, which eliminates the possibility of needlessly shifting weight and putting workers in danger. We play this dangerous game like a child plays ‘Pickup Sticks,’ as any skilled demolition foreman can look at the pile and tell you which debris to remove first. None of the demolition workers in the picture above climbed up any ladder forty or fifty feet in the air to make that 45-degree angel cut, because that was part of the original ‘Controlled Demolition’ of WTC-7. Note the clean 90-degree cuts labeled “Severed Column End” scattered throughout the debris pile. However, also note these steel members are buried under the debris of the walls collapsing upon them ‘during’ the controlled demolition process. These cuts could not have been made by this demolition crew, because they still have mountains of debris to remove before even thinking about cutting any structural steel; which would only serve to shift weight in this very dangerous situation. The very best work on these WTC controlled demolition attacks is presented by Dr. Steven E. Jones (Brigham Young University) here:

Liberty Post Website:

WTC-7 was definitely (100 percent certainty) brought down using Controlled Demolition techniques also found in WTC-1 and WTC-2. This evidence explains why we have reports on hundreds of ‘explosions’ taking place throughout the day.

Bamm, Bamm, Bamm; then Three Big Explosions . . .

And yet, the ‘keyword sanitized’ 911Commission Report only uses the term ‘explosion’ six times outside the notation references for ‘all’ these 9/11 cases and never uses the term ‘explosions’ (plural) even once. Guess what? The bogus Arlington County After-Action Report uses the term ‘explosion’ six times in 215 pages ‘and’ also never uses the term ‘explosions’ even one time the very same way, even though we can hear multiple explosions taking place in this single News Video.

9/11 was definitely and inside-job and many LIARS are helping the real terrorists get away with murdering thousands of our innocent fellow Americans . . .

GL,

Terral
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RKOwens4

Sorry, Terral, but you're mistaken on a whole range of issues. There is absolutely no evidence that WTC7 was taken down in a controlled demolition, and overwhelming evidence documenting the severe damage to the building, the raging fires on "all 47 floors", the expected collapse by firefighters, and so on.

Regarding your first claim: Fires destroy countless steel-framed buildings every year which weren't already damaged by 767's or falling debris. Three seperate 4-story buildings at The Kader Toy Factory collapsed from fire alone in under 2 hours. The top 11 floors of the Windsor Building. The Mumbai High North Platform, the Dogwood Elementary School, etc. etc. Anyone who claims these buildings, nor any others, have ever collapsed from fire is flat wrong and should do a few minutes of research. Of course these weren't skyscrapers, but do you think something with 4 stories or 47 stories (in the case of WTC7) of weight on top of it is going to collapse?

No, Larry "Pull It" Silverstein did not admit to demolishing WTC7. Pull it, despite claims to the contrary, does NOT mean to explosively demolish a building in the controlled demolition industry (pull it does mean something very specific in the FDNY though - can you guess what?). Silverstein was not awarded over 7 billion, but 4.6 billion. The rebuilding is expected to cost well over 7 billion, and this figure will likely rise. So did Silverstein pull an insurance scam that didn't make him a penny, but cost him billions of dollars?

WTC7, as well as the towers, did not fall at free-fall speed. The time from the east penthouse's collapse to complete collapse is 15 seconds. Seismic reports indicate it took 3 seconds for truss one to collapse before this spread upward to the roof. So this is 18 seconds.

Of course the fires weren't hot enough to melt the steel. Read the NIST reports on the towers or interim report on WTC7 and show me where it claims the steel melted. You won't find it. It didn't have to melt. Steel loses 50% of its strength at 1100 degrees F. A study by UC Berkely showed that at 1800 degrees, which is the temperature the fires were burning at, steel loses over 80% of its strength and then levels off. But that's a university study, so take it however you want.

There's debate over whether the fireproofing would have stayed intact in WTC7 after WTC1's debris and surge hit it (we know it was knocked off in WTC5), but even if it did remain intact, we're talking about 3-hour fireproofing. How long did the fires in WTC7 burn? Try 7 hours.

Why is Silverstein "obviously" lying about talking to the FDNY Chief, whose men only entered WTC7 after the two towers collapse? Do you know when Chief Nigro called him? 3:00. Was this before or after the twin towers collapsed? And yes, there WERE firefighters inside the building and immediately around its base, who had to be pulled back at 3:00.

The photos of the angle-cut columns were cut during cleanup by ironworkers, not by shape-charges. You can clearly see the torch-marks on the steel, as opposed to shape charges which make clean cuts. I can tell you are lying about being a trained demolition supervisor, because thermite has never, ever been used by the demolition industry in controlled demolitions (it's used by the military). Please provide me which building you supervised in which thermite was used. It's also strange that you, as a demolition supervisor, would be unaware of angle-cut beams since these are typically found during cleanup. And yes, torches do melt the steel. Shape-charges don't.

If the collapse of WTC7 (and the two towers) was obviously a controlled demolition, then why didn't it meet A SINGLE hallmark of a controlled demolition? Why didn't a single video capture any pre-collapse explosions? Why did no cameras capture any explosions as the building was being brought down (which would be heard miles away)? Why didn't any of the buildings collapse anywhere near free-fall speed? Why didn't they fall into their footprint? Why wasn't a single blasting cap remnant or piece of det cord found in the rubble? Why did the cores of both WTC2 and WTC1 remain standing for about 10 seconds after the rest of the building collapse, instead of being the first part of the building taken down? (No, the core of WTC7 did not fall first, it was the 3 trusses at the base which were weaken by fire and collapsed.) There is not a single piece of evidence indicating WTC7 was a controlled demolition. You're presented things that have been thoroughly debunked for years now. Sorry, but you didn't get a single claim right. If I'm one of the "liars" or government shills you seem to blame, then it should be easy for you to present evidence proving me wrong. So let's see it.
Edited by RKOwens4, Feb 2 2008, 06:09 PM.
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the raging fires on "all 47 floors", :ermm:

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There's debate over whether the fireproofing would have stayed intact in WTC7 after WTC1's debris and surge hit it (we know it was knocked off in WTC5), but even if it did remain intact, we're talking about 3-hour fireproofing. How long did the fires in WTC7 burn? Try 7 hours.

Seven hours in one place? Or did the fires creep from place to place? None of the fires ever went out? You can't even see much of any fires before the collapse. Just a lot of smoke on one side of the building.
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Feb 2 2008, 06:45 PM
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the raging fires on "all 47 floors", :ermm:

"All forty-seven stories were on fire. It was wild. The MPs said the building was going to collapse."
-Ground Zero Superintendant Charlie Vitchers

"When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories."
–FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers

"The whole south side of Seven World Trade had been hit by the collapse of the second Tower, and there was fire on every floor."
–FDNY Fire Captain Brenda Berkman

"Building #7 was still actively burning and at that time we were advised by a NYFD Chief that building #7 was burning out of control and imminent collapse was probable."
–PAPD P.O. Edward McQuade

Almost everyone who was on the scene describe WTC7 as either "fully involved" or say specifically that all 47 floors were on fire. Are the FDNY, PAPD, and NYPD in on it? Anyone who claims that WTC7 had only small fires couldn't possibly be more wrong.
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Don't show me quotes. Show me footage. Show me raging fires on all floors. We both know you can't.
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How about footage of WTC 5?
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This is footage of building 5. Did WTC 7 look anything like that?

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Feb 2 2008, 07:13 PM
Don't show me quotes. Show me footage. Show me raging fires on all floors. We both know you can't.
So you are saying the FDNY is in on it? Regardless, if you want pictures, then look at the following which show thick black smoke absolutely billowing from all floors (not just the bottom):

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There are hundreds of other pictures showing the same, fires on every floor, coupled with firefighter testimony of fires on all 47 floors. Still, many conspiracists claim that this smoke is smoke from WTC6. Not true. In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
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Like I said before, smoke on one side of the building. The building DOES have four sides.
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In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.

Those fires I see. Did any of those fires go out?

Edit: And by the way, that thick smoke on the side of the building was not always so thick. There were times when you could see some of the windows behind the smoke. Those windows showed no orange glow at all.
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So you are saying the FDNY is in on it?


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RKOwens4
Feb 2 2008, 07:53 PM
Avenger
Feb 2 2008, 07:13 PM
Don't show me quotes. Show me footage. Show me raging fires on all floors. We both know you can't.
So you are saying the FDNY is in on it? Regardless, if you want pictures, then look at the following which show thick black smoke absolutely billowing from all floors (not just the bottom):

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There are hundreds of other pictures showing the same, fires on every floor, coupled with firefighter testimony of fires on all 47 floors. Still, many conspiracists claim that this smoke is smoke from WTC6. Not true. In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
That is a smoke screen hiding the south side.

The fires on every floor at the SW corner burned in the same place for 4 hours while the other fires moved around floors 7, 8, 11 and 13 as they consumed the available fuel and moved on.

How did all those fires get started? There was debris damage to 5 or 6 floors near the top
and floors 8 -18 yet every floor has smoke pouring out.

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Feb 2 2008, 08:42 PM
Like I said before, smoke on one side of the building. The building DOES have four sides.
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In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.

Those fires I see. Did any of those fires go out?

Edit: And by the way, that thick smoke on the side of the building was not always so thick. There were times when you could see some of the windows behind the smoke. Those windows showed no orange glow at all.
Are you suggesting that the floors weren't really on fire then, since smoke only pours from one side? The south side of the building is the side that the North Tower collapsed onto. If the wind were blowing north, and the smoke wrapped itself around the building, would that make some kind of difference to you? Look at the west and north side of WTC2. No smoke there (except for the very northeast corner).

Also, I wouldn't say that smoke only poured from the south side of building 7. True, this is where most of the smoke came from, but there was also fires on the east side of the building and at least some from the west side:

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And I agree that the fires seem to have gotten worse as the day went on, but I'm going to wait until NIST's final report comes out to see what they have to say. It wouldn't be surprising though, since this is exactly what happened with WTC1 and WTC2. According to NIST, the available oxygen on the impacted floors allowed about 15% of the jet fuel to burn off inside the building on impact (another 15% outside), and the remaining 70% burned off after 10 minutes. Then the fires spread across office contents from the impact point to the sides then around the back more or less (with the North Tower). So you had the fires moving and getting worse over time. I wouldn't be surprised if the fires in WTC7 started small (like you suggest) and then got worse, perhaps reaching one or more of the diesel generators and blazing up, but we'll see.

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Chris Sarns
Feb 2 2008, 09:15 PM
RKOwens4
Feb 2 2008, 07:53 PM
Avenger
Feb 2 2008, 07:13 PM
Don't show me quotes. Show me footage. Show me raging fires on all floors. We both know you can't.
So you are saying the FDNY is in on it? Regardless, if you want pictures, then look at the following which show thick black smoke absolutely billowing from all floors (not just the bottom):

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There are hundreds of other pictures showing the same, fires on every floor, coupled with firefighter testimony of fires on all 47 floors. Still, many conspiracists claim that this smoke is smoke from WTC6. Not true. In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
That is a smoke screen hiding the south side.

The fires on every floor at the SW corner burned in the same place for 4 hours while the other fires moved around floors 7, 8, 11 and 13 as they consumed the available fuel and moved on.

How did all those fires get started? There was debris damage to 5 or 6 floors near the top
and floors 8 -18 yet every floor has smoke pouring out.

The North Tower fell onto the building:

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The building was not damaged only on a few floors as you suggest. On roughly a third of the south side on the lower ten floors, about 25% of the depth of the building was scooped out (according to firefighters). A smaller gash ran twenty floors up. The SW corner was also damaged. The fires probably started when damage from one of the collapses struck one of the many diesel generator fuel lines running along the front of the building.
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RKOwens4
Feb 2 2008, 11:58 PM
The building was not damaged only on a few floors as you suggest. On roughly a third of the south side on the lower ten floors, about 25% of the depth of the building was scooped out (according to firefighters). A smaller gash ran twenty floors up. The SW corner was also damaged. The fires probably started when damage from one of the collapses struck one of the many diesel generator fuel lines running along the front of the building.
There was no 10 story gouge as you described.

Please read this thread from this section:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/52258/1/#new


There was considerable damage to the south side of WTC 7:

- severed spandrels between exterior columns near the southwest corner for at least 5 to 10 floors.
[video shows 20 + floors]

- large debris hole near center of the south face around Floor 14

- damage between Floors 8 to 18 at the southwest corner.

- steel ripped out from between the third and the sixth floors

In this video you can see thru the smoke at the SW corner in different places at different times and see that the smoke is coming from the SW corner only.


You did not account for how the fires at the SW corner burned for 4 hours in the same place while the other fires burned in one place for about 1 hour and moved on.

There were no generators above the 9th floor.
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Hey RKOwens4 - you forgot the bit about the big bad wolf huffing and puffing and blowing building 7 down. Now THAT theory puts all your nonsense in perspective. How much do you get paid for spouting shite?
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Hi RKOwens:

Here is yet another pathetic display of RK’s ‘talk, talk, talk’ without one third-party supporting reference or one photograph to support his claims. Post #2 is a rebuttal to NOTHING with chit-chat about Toy Factories and Elementary Schools. :0)

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RK >> Sorry, Terral, but you're mistaken on a whole range of issues. There is absolutely no evidence that WTC7 was taken down in a controlled demolition, and overwhelming evidence documenting the severe damage to the building, the raging fires on "all 47 floors", the expected collapse by firefighters, and so on.

This is your chance to ‘quote >>’ anything from the Opening Post to offer your rebuttals using whatever RK calls credible evidence. To think you are going to change any minds with all your ridiculous ‘talk, talk, talk’ is very funny indeed. Start your own “WTC-7 Collapsed Due To Building Fires,” so we can all have a big belly laugh . . .

My work appears in the OP of this thread. Where is yours? :0)

GL,

Terral
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Hi RK:

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RK Quotes >> "All forty-seven stories were on fire. It was wild. The MPs said the building was going to collapse."
-Ground Zero Superintendant Charlie Vitchers

"When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories."
–FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers

My, my. I am astonished that RK actually provided third-party testimony in support of his Official Bushie Cover Story “Building Fires Did It” ranting. What is the problem with RK’s assertions and the testimony of these people without even a clue? We have pictures of WTC-7 collapsing at freefall speed like this from this website, but not even one window is broken and there is no sign of any building fires anywhere. This guy has not even quoted one word or addressed one thing in the Opening Post, but he is attempting to fill this thread with nonsense that does NOT even begin to match the evidence and not even close.

You guys can haggle with this guy if that makes you happy, but nothing from his direction is convincing anyone of anything IMHO. Steel-framed skyscrapers have burned like Roman Candles for more than 24 hours (story) and remained standing, but we are supposed to believe this overbuilt WTC-7 skyscraper fell down at freefall speed into its own footprint from building fires we CANNOT EVEN SEE in the photographs in just a few cotton picking hours. :0) The "but the other side of the building was on fire" nonsense is meaningless drivel, because 'all sides' of WTC-7 collapsed symmetrically in one single smooth motion. Somebody please help me stop laughing . . .

GL,

Terral
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Feb 2 2008, 07:53 PM
So you are saying the FDNY is in on it? Regardless, if you want pictures, then look at the following which show thick black smoke absolutely billowing from all floors (not just the bottom):

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There are hundreds of other pictures showing the same, fires on every floor, coupled with firefighter testimony of fires on all 47 floors. Still, many conspiracists claim that this smoke is smoke from WTC6. Not true. In the following video by Steve Spak, you can clearing see the smoke ORIGINATING from WTC7.
While I don't question that WTC7 was producing a lot of smoke, I disagree that WTC6 wasn't a prime contributor to the overall volume creeping up the south face.

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Edited by Miragememories, Feb 3 2008, 11:39 AM.
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if, as you claim, WTC7 was collapsed with pre-planted explosives, can you help me out as to exactly when and where these explosives were planted?

Thanks.
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Feb 3 2008, 03:04 PM
if, as you claim, WTC7 was collapsed with pre-planted explosives, can you help me out as to exactly when and where these explosives were planted?

Thanks.
I'm sorry but it would be way too presumptuous of me to attempt a serious reply to that question.

I suggest you read the Danny Jowenko Interview thread. It provides some interesting technical thought on the rigging.

Danny accepts it as a same day job which I'm in disagreement with.

Pre-planning only requires surreptitious access to critical locations in the lower part of WTC7.

My first guess would be in the elevator shafts.

MM
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So you disagree with the expert you cite.

Interesting.
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HeyLeroy
Feb 3 2008, 04:29 PM
So you disagree with the expert you cite.

Interesting.
Your point?

I have never met anyone I completely agreed with and I've never encountered anyone that has completely agreed with me.

That my friend is reality.

MM
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Feb 3 2008, 03:23 AM
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Feb 2 2008, 11:58 PM
The building was not damaged only on a few floors as you suggest. On roughly a third of the south side on the lower ten floors, about 25% of the depth of the building was scooped out (according to firefighters). A smaller gash ran twenty floors up. The SW corner was also damaged. The fires probably started when damage from one of the collapses struck one of the many diesel generator fuel lines running along the front of the building.
There was no 10 story gouge as you described.

Please read this thread from this section:
http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/52258/1/#new


There was considerable damage to the south side of WTC 7:

- severed spandrels between exterior columns near the southwest corner for at least 5 to 10 floors.
[video shows 20 + floors]

- large debris hole near center of the south face around Floor 14

- damage between Floors 8 to 18 at the southwest corner.

- steel ripped out from between the third and the sixth floors

In this video you can see thru the smoke at the SW corner in different places at different times and see that the smoke is coming from the SW corner only.


You did not account for how the fires at the SW corner burned for 4 hours in the same place while the other fires burned in one place for about 1 hour and moved on.

There were no generators above the 9th floor.
Yes there was.

"I remember standing there looking over at building 7 and realizing that a big chunk of the lower floors had been taken out on the Vesey Street side."
-FDNY Deputy Chief Nick Visconti

"At that point, they said that Seven World Trade had no face and it was ready to collapse."
– EMT Mercedes Rivera

"But then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building."
-FDNY Capt. Chris Boyle

Again, are these people lying? If you say they are, then you're saying the FDNY is in on it. You can see the gash from the tenth to twentieth floors below, but the main one from the tenth floor down (on a third of the face) is blocked by the foundation of WTC6:

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HeyLeroy
Feb 3 2008, 03:04 PM
if, as you claim, WTC7 was collapsed with pre-planted explosives, can you help me out as to exactly when and where these explosives were planted?

Thanks.
Also their names and addresses and their shoe sizes please. It stands to reason that if you see a building collapsing as an obvious result of a controlled demolition then you will automatically know these things. I went to see a legal controlled demolition once and was amazed to realise that after watching it I had implanted in my brain every facet of the way it was rigged, and how and when. Truly amazing!! Durrrrrr...
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