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| Topic Started: Oct 6 2008, 07:34 PM (833 Views) | |
| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 6 2008, 07:34 PM Post #1 |
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| Lin Kuei | Oct 7 2008, 01:40 AM Post #2 |
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Excellent Dom!!! Absolutely can't wait to see more! I hope more people, like yourself, give this aspect of 9/11 the attention it deserves. |
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| 22205 | Oct 7 2008, 03:43 AM Post #3 |
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good job on getting some (more) real witness accounts man, keep it up. i too, cant wait to see more of this interview, so im anxiously looking forward to it. also - i wanted to add that last night i was watching some archive footage and for the first time i heard the news reporting "Jennerstown" as the place where "U93" crashed.   i had never heared that before, so it was intriguing to hear Ms.Saylor say she saw one of the 2 planes headed towards there. btw man - it would be helpful to add some maps/graphics to the vid to help us (the viewer) to better visualize what she was describing. i dont know if your final version will include them or not, but please consider adding some sort of illustrations. but again, great work dom - much respect.  |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 7 2008, 03:59 AM Post #4 |
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thank you! hope to have it online in it's entirety very soon!
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 7 2008, 04:01 AM Post #5 |
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thank you!! the final documentary encompassing all of the eyewitnesses will be chocked full of maps and diagrams and so forth. 
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| Zaphod 36 | Oct 9 2008, 05:08 PM Post #6 |
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...and it looked like to me it had like two things on top of it that I called look like eyeballs(?)... What has she ment with "eyeballs" on top of the plane? |
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| Flippy | Oct 9 2008, 05:30 PM Post #7 |
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Great work Dom - you CIT guys are true truth seekers. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 9 2008, 08:19 PM Post #8 |
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it definitely wasn't a civilian plane and she's never saw anything like it. it was flying away from the scene at treetop level ascending as it did. but i'm finishing up the full 40 minute version now so you'll get to hear all the rest very soon. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 9 2008, 08:20 PM Post #9 |
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thank you! that means a lot!
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | Oct 10 2008, 09:32 AM Post #10 |
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I'm proud of you bro. I can't wait to see it all. And it don't stop and it won't stop. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 11 2008, 04:13 PM Post #11 |
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the full thing is even better! 
not until justice is done and the truth is known and accepted universally.
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| Zaphod 36 | Oct 23 2008, 05:51 PM Post #12 |
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Hi Dom, when do you want to release the full thing? I`m very interested in it. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 25 2008, 07:20 PM Post #13 |
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very soon. i'm trying to take care of a few other things first before i release it in its entirety. until then take a look at this and let me know what your thoughts are : |
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| Tim Riches | Oct 26 2008, 11:24 AM Post #14 |
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Maybe the eyeballs she refers to are engines...  More to the side than on top though... it's a thought. I know size estimates can be off when there is no reference (looking at sky) so perhaps it was much closer to her and hence looked bigger. This is good stuff, Dom. Keep it right up! |
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| Zaphod 36 | Oct 26 2008, 01:00 PM Post #15 |
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The background music in the Saylor-Video is better.  Nice preview, Dom. You need at least two agreeing witness statements for one event - for example the famous white plane. I think the plane which Viola saw is the same plane which Susan Mcelwain has seen moments before. The colour, the time and the flight direction agrees on both statements. What about the describtion(eyeballs...)? |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 26 2008, 01:36 PM Post #16 |
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no, they're not. i showed viola a lot of photographs which included falcon 20 and i do not have a photo of either plane she saw that morning. she did confirm the 757. she spoke of it being silver and highly reflective. but no corporate jet.
thank you. susan mcelwain puts a small white plane approaching the crash site immediately prior to the explosion less than a mile from the site. rick chaney runs outside from his job to see what everyone is running out to see only to see a small white plane flying around in the sky [the one susan mcelwain saw approach]. a few minutes later viola saylor comes back outside from her house to see a larger white plane flying away from the crash scene at tree top level. she corroborates this is not a corporate jet as susan confirmed to me and did rick chaney in a conversation i had with him along with 2 other eyewitnesses willing to testify. she notices the little plane off in the distance flying away in a different direction. the large white plane was also described to me by bob blair and doug miller who saw it as it came over the treetops when they got to the site which is somewhere between 3-5 minutes after the explosion takes place. they both confirm it was not a corporate jet. the fbi told doug it was a c130 cargo plane. when i asked doug about it having propellers on the wings he was caught off guard and replied 'no'. i explained to him that c130's have propellers on the wings. doug suddenly became unavailabe to do our agreed interview. bob blair also then backed out even though bob told me it was definitely some sort of military plane. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 26 2008, 10:58 PM Post #17 |
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the little white plane is susan mcelwain, rick chaney, viola saylor, lee purbaugh [not in the clip], plus 2 undisclosed witnesses. the larger white [non corporate jet] was witnessed viola saylor, bob blair, & doug miller. i know of other witnesses to both planes but i have not spoken with and confirmed their accounts yet. mrs. saylor did not identify the plane on film because she was not positive other than being positive it was the corporate falcon 20 jet. |
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| Zaphod 36 | Oct 27 2008, 12:27 PM Post #18 |
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Silver and highly reflective...it seems to be more an American Airlines plane than an United plane.
The little white plane which susan mcelwain had witnessed, was coming from the south(east?). Viola Saylors larger white plane(with eyeballs) also was coming from the south(east). The little white plane which Viola witnessed shortly after that plane, was coming from the opposite direction(according to Viola). So Susan Mcelwain must have witnessed the larger white plane seconds before the crash. Do you agree with me, Dom? If you watch a plane airborne, it usually looks smaller than it really is. Maybe thats the reason why Susan Mcelswain thought that the plane was not much bigger than her van. I guess Viola Saylor witnessed the larger white plane just seconds after the crash. Is this correct? How many seconds after the crash Viola has witnessed the small white plane? We need to know more about the eyeballs for a positive identification of that plane. Dom, do you also think that the smaller white plane was one of the two triangled-sized fighters, which also was observed by Susan Mcelwain and perhaps had intercepted Flight 93? |
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| BoneZ | Oct 27 2008, 04:09 PM Post #19 |
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Very excellent previews. Can't wait to see the full video. So far, I've found only one partial pic of a white A-10. They are very rare if they exist at all any more. Or could have been painted for 9/11 or are secretly stored somewhere for covert missions. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 27 2008, 07:32 PM Post #20 |
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well if you study the debris photos very closely you will find that all the debris visible in all of the pictures is silver. the only photo to contain debris showing any other color [and all 3 convienantly enough] was taken at an angle that makes it impossible to place it even remotely near the crash site. there is no way of identifying its location.
no i do not. its hard to get a trajectory of where the little white plane came because susan only sees it for a very short period of time and never saw it until it was over top of her. so where it came from before that is wild speculation at this point. viola saw flight 93 fly over her head and then [in shock pretty much] walked into her home. almost immediately after getting inside she received a call from one of the guys at stoystown auto wreckers that saw the plane and wanted to make sure it didnt crash into her house which is where viola said it was heading and went on to say that at the angle she saw it for it to end up where it did it had to pull up even though she did not witness it pulling up as that would have been passed her. the problem is if the plane pulls up at or past her house there is no way its nose down into the impact point. after getting off the phone [very bried 'are you ok' call] viola walks back outside. at this time she sees the large white plane flying away from the scene at treetop level [yates gladwells plane never gets below 1,500 according to oct]. the plane is heading north [towards jennerstown]. at this point she then sees off in the distance heading the other direction susan's little plane now at a much higher altitude. there are 2 white planes at the site. the little one susan described is also described by rick chaney in the video . rick chaney did not see the large plane that arrived a few minutes after. i believe alot of this has to do with the layout. i need to go to where rick was and get a view point. bob blair and doug miller drive from route 30 to the smoke after seeing flight 93 fly over head. i do not know their speed but when i drove from where they told me they were [stoystown auto wreckers on route 30] to the site it took me around 5 minutes. granted i was not speeding by anyones definition. when they arrive they did not witness the little plane [it must have been gaining altitude by this point] but as they are standing there the large plane comes flying over their heads scaring the hell out of them. i have also spoken to 2 other witnesses to the little plane. one who heard a 'thud' and went outside to see what it was. all they could see was a strange little white plane in the sky. then they saw smoke start to rise up from directly under it. i have been working very hard to get this witness to go public along with a neighbor who came outside and saw the little plane but the smoke was already up at this point. so whoever was in control of this little plane was either suicidal and playing chicken with a 757 or the 757 already passed through. take your pick.
definitely small. definitely a different plane. thats why viola is so important. she puts both white planes at the scene.
no. i'm saying somewhere between 3-5 minutes afterwards. the little plane stuck around. as one person told me a long time ago 'everyone here saw it'. and if you google dale browning's quote you'll find confirmation that everybody saw it. then in the video there is a clip of one of the locals saying that his friends witnessed it and went to the crash site and the fbi told them they ain't allowed to talk about it. lee purbaugh says he didn't get a good look at it but that seems hard to believe. especially if he saw the 757 hit the spot the little white plane was at. i gathered from bob and doug that lee fled the scene immediately after as they passed someone on their way in and there was no one else there when they arrived. which again is odd because there were other people working at rollock.
agreed. lets just get the disinfo out of the way immediately and hopefully all agree that there wasn't a falcon 20 at the scene.
at this point i'm open to anything because i know the official story is not factual. |
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| Zaphod 36 | Oct 28 2008, 12:10 PM Post #21 |
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Thank you, the time frame is clearer now. To my knowledge, Susan Mcelwain and Tom Spinelli were the witnesses who have seen the small white plane BEFORE the crash. It was coming most likely from the southeast(Indian Lake-Spinelli) area. Perhaps the other guys at Indian Lake Marina have seen the small white plane too. There must have been two of that small white plane, because Mcelwain has observed two triangled sized planes shortly after the crash. I have met a witness who has observed two fighter jets shortly before the crash too. Do you know if the small white plane(s) was already circling the area before the crash? The larger white plane was observed from Viola Saylor, bob blair and doug miller few minutes after the crash. It was coming from the southeast(crash side) and was heading to the north. The eyeballs on top of this plane - could this have been some kind of radar equipment? If I have understand something wrong, please correct me. We still have to identify both kind of white planes. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Oct 28 2008, 07:38 PM Post #22 |
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you're welcome. 
yes i believe tom saw the plane as well and i also have a good suspicion that jim brandt, john fleegle, val mcclatchey, lee purbaugh and quite a few others did too.
i need to speak with more witnesses. it flew directly over top of bob and doug so all they pretty much saw was the underbelly. fbi told doug it was a c130. doug confirmed it did not have propellers to me and so did bob [who knew what a c130 looked like] laughed off the c130 until i told him thats what the fbi told doug. even though i spoke with bob numerous times for nearly a year it was after this conversation that all contact ended.
i do believe you got it.
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