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Tasers proven to cause death
Topic Started: Feb 1 2008, 06:00 PM (464 Views)
mynameis	Feb 1 2008, 06:00 PM Post #1
Internet Jujitsu Posts: 1,567 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: 01/15/08	Tasers proven to cause death



Shagata Ganai	Feb 1 2008, 07:42 PM Post #2
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	Ya gotta understand, until they develop remote "stun" technology, this is what they are going to arm these thugs with. This way, they've got the fear thing going just by showing up. WE'RE HERE TO HELP Edited by Shagata Ganai, Feb 1 2008, 07:45 PM.



Kaiya	Feb 2 2008, 01:02 AM Post #3
Posts: 147 Group: BANNED! Member #104 Joined: 01/17/08	I didn't think anyone thought that inserting electrodes into/onto the skin and turning up the voltage was safe. As far as I know, they have always been marketed as less lethal, not non-lethal. They are a good alternative to firearms when a person is in a situation that can justify use of deadly force. Kaiya
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mynameis	Feb 2 2008, 06:30 PM Post #4
Internet Jujitsu Posts: 1,567 Group: Members Member #50 Joined: 01/15/08	Kaiya Feb 2 2008, 01:02 AM I didn't think anyone thought that inserting electrodes into/onto the skin and turning up the voltage was safe. As far as I know, they have always been marketed as less lethal, not non-lethal. They are a good alternative to firearms when a person is in a situation that can justify use of deadly force. Kaiya Good to hear. I hope they use it and cause death to somebody you like then.



Kaiya	Feb 2 2008, 08:22 PM Post #5
Posts: 147 Group: BANNED! Member #104 Joined: 01/17/08	mynameis Feb 2 2008, 06:30 PM Kaiya Feb 2 2008, 01:02 AM I didn't think anyone thought that inserting electrodes into/onto the skin and turning up the voltage was safe. As far as I know, they have always been marketed as less lethal, not non-lethal. They are a good alternative to firearms when a person is in a situation that can justify use of deadly force. Kaiya Good to hear. I hope they use it and cause death to somebody you like then. I think you do not understand. If the police are going to use force to stop someone, then the less deadly the better. I do not know about you, but I would rather take a shock than a bullet. But regardless, I would never hope that someone you know (and possibly care about ) is killed. Iwould never take pleasure in such thoughts like you appear to do. Kaiya
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Gideon524	Feb 2 2008, 08:30 PM Post #6
Oh, you didn't know? Posts: 519 Group: Admins Member #4 Joined: 12/21/07	mynameis Feb 2 2008, 06:30 PM Kaiya Feb 2 2008, 01:02 AM I didn't think anyone thought that inserting electrodes into/onto the skin and turning up the voltage was safe. As far as I know, they have always been marketed as less lethal, not non-lethal. They are a good alternative to firearms when a person is in a situation that can justify use of deadly force. Kaiya Good to hear. I hope they use it and cause death to somebody you like then. Dude, that's way out of line. See you in a week.



JFK	Feb 2 2008, 08:32 PM Post #7
Posts: 4,218 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	What ever happened to "billy clubs" and flashlights ? Since 9/11/2001 the focus has been on terror... and all that implies. And for the record, I agree with Mynameis' assessment.
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Shagata Ganai	Feb 3 2008, 03:18 PM Post #8
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	JFK Feb 2 2008, 08:32 PM What ever happened to "billy clubs" and flashlights ? Since 9/11/2001 the focus has been on terror... and all that implies. And for the record, I agree with Mynameis' assessment. Ditto.



fortuneteller	Feb 3 2008, 05:07 PM Post #9
Posts: 173 Group: BANNED! Member #152 Joined: 01/20/08	I think kaiya is just a little naive, nothing negative intended. throughout human history, the bad guys have used weapons to abuse, torture and kill the innocent. the taser is just the newest of their favorite toys. by definition, those who stage terror are terrorists. that includes those who operate on the domestic front posing as law enforcement. they have also infiltrated our military. Edited by fortuneteller, Feb 3 2008, 05:09 PM.
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Roxdog	Feb 3 2008, 08:17 PM Post #10
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	What are you talking about? There is nothing wrong with tasers. They are useful tools. It is the manner in which they are used that is the issue. Edited by Roxdog, Feb 3 2008, 08:18 PM.
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fortuneteller	Feb 3 2008, 08:22 PM Post #11
Posts: 173 Group: BANNED! Member #152 Joined: 01/20/08	I gather you are into S & M
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Kaiya	Feb 3 2008, 11:48 PM Post #12
Posts: 147 Group: BANNED! Member #104 Joined: 01/17/08	Nightsticks, guns and tasers. All are weapons, all can kill. Everyone here is aware how lethal a gun is. Nightsticks when used hard enough to inflict pain or knock a person to the ground can also be deadly. Ditto for large flashlights like the maglight. A taser will normally incapacitate a person for a short period of time with little threat to their life. As far as I know, a taser is much less likely than a gun to cause death or grave injury when a person is shot with either. But a taser is more likely to be abused because of the perceived notion that they are non-lethal instead of less lethal. Kaiya
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behind	Feb 4 2008, 07:56 PM Post #13
Posts: 23 Group: Members Member #261 Joined: 02/02/08	Amnesty International's continuing concerns about taser use Tasers a form of torture, says UN
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fortuneteller	Feb 4 2008, 10:33 PM Post #14
Posts: 173 Group: BANNED! Member #152 Joined: 01/20/08	sadists and their toys
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alexvegas	Feb 5 2008, 09:10 AM Post #15
alex25smash Posts: 607 Group: Members Member #34 Joined: 01/15/08	Roxdog Feb 3 2008, 08:17 PM What are you talking about? There is nothing wrong with tasers. They are useful tools. It is the manner in which they are used that is the issue. You mean they should be used for something other than shocking humans?



Roxdog	Feb 5 2008, 10:51 AM Post #16
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	fortuneteller Feb 3 2008, 08:22 PM I gather you are into S & M Not at all. I'm just not into being a complete brain dead Shillatard. Quote: sadists and their toys You are so utterly stupid... Quote: You mean they should be used for something other than shocking humans? Oh, give it a rest. No, they should be used to incapacitate unarmed violent human beings that resist arrest. Emphasis on the word "violent". While I would recommend going to a rival company (I forget their name), I have no problem with cops or anyone for that matter owning and using tasers when the situation calls for them. I know you guys think unarmed cops singing Kumbaya to knife wielding crack heads is more effective but I beg to differ...Im as critical of cops and their methods as anyone. But my prejudice doesn't cloud my ability to think logically...
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Reddawn	Feb 5 2008, 11:39 AM Post #17
Posts: 57 Group: Members Member #39 Joined: 01/15/08	Roxdog Feb 5 2008, 10:51 AM Oh, give it a rest. No, they should be used to incapacitate unarmed violent human beings that resist arrest. Emphasis on the word "violent". While I would recommend going to a rival company (I forget their name), I have no problem with cops or anyone for that matter owning and using tasers when the situation calls for them. I know you guys think unarmed cops singing Kumbaya to knife wielding crack heads is more effective but I beg to differ...Im as critical of cops and their methods as anyone. But my prejudice doesn't cloud my ability to think logically... Well, it's not often I agree with Roxdog but I certainly do here.
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Shagata Ganai	Feb 5 2008, 04:53 PM Post #18
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	Kaiya Feb 3 2008, 11:48 PM Nightsticks, guns and tasers. All are weapons, all can kill. Everyone here is aware how lethal a gun is. Nightsticks when used hard enough to inflict pain or knock a person to the ground can also be deadly. Ditto for large flashlights like the maglight. A taser will normally incapacitate a person for a short period of time with little threat to their life. As far as I know, a taser is much less likely than a gun to cause death or grave injury when a person is shot with either. But a taser is more likely to be abused because of the perceived notion that they are non-lethal instead of less lethal. Kaiya Go get yourself tasered. Then come back (if you live) and tell us how you felt only "incapacitated" and how benign these devices are to people w/ heart conditions, and other afflictions which the police disregard the danger of in using these lethal weapons. @ Roxdog. YOU ARE WRONG. Tasers are lethal. Just not all the time. Kinda like bullets, wouldn't you say? And, pray tell, what are the long-term effects of this exposure? I mean, cooking someones nervous system sounds just like torture to me. Oh, but it's only a short exposure? Prove that it is not dangerous, long-term. And knock off the juvenile arguments about anyone wanting unarmed police. You do not talk to children, here.



Roxdog	Feb 5 2008, 05:15 PM Post #19
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: @ Roxdog. YOU ARE WRONG. Tasers are lethal. Um, how am I wrong? I never said tazers can't be lethal. Quote: Just not all the time. A vast majority of the time they are not. 99% of the time. Let's be honest and accurate...cool? Quote: Kinda like bullets, wouldn't you say? Not at all. Quote: And, pray tell, what are the long-term effects of this exposure? Long term effects of what exposure? Electricity has been around for a long time. Quote: I mean, cooking someones nervous system sounds just like torture to me. When you use buzzwords like that it sounds horrible. But they aren't "cooking" anything. Tazering someone CAN be torture, just like using a billy club can be torture. Context matters. Quote: Oh, but it's only a short exposure? Prove that it is not dangerous, long-term. Prove that it is. Show us your info....Bullets have more dangerous, lasting effects. Quote: And knock off the juvenile arguments about anyone wanting unarmed police. Um, plenty of people in the Europe and UK love unarmed police. Quote: You do not talk to children, here. Stop acting like one and I won't treat you like one..... Edited by Roxdog, Feb 5 2008, 05:19 PM.
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Shagata Ganai	Feb 5 2008, 05:52 PM Post #20
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	Okay if you want to call names, if I am a child, you are a complete fool. But first, get yourself tasered so you can speak with real authority, instead of reciting stats that give no background data.



Roxdog	Feb 5 2008, 05:57 PM Post #21
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: Okay if you want to call names, if I am a child, I said you are acting like one....after calling my logical statements "juvenile". I think you should try actually reading what you are responding to BEFORE responding... Quote: you are a complete fool. Funny, the only person tossing around foolish assertions is you...I'm not a complete fool....hence, why I am able to articulate real arguments. You should look into it. Quote: But first, get yourself tasered so you can speak with real authority, instead of reciting stats that give no background data. I don't need to be tazered to come to a rational and logical conclusion about something so obvious. Statistics ARE the data that matters and they merely confirm what smart people can figure out on their own. Not sure what you mean by "background data" and my guess is neither do you... Edited by Roxdog, Feb 5 2008, 06:00 PM.
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Roxdog	Feb 5 2008, 06:02 PM Post #22
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	Shagata Ganai Feb 5 2008, 04:53 PM Go get yourself tasered. Then come back (if you live).... Bwahahhaa.....Yes, because you only have a 99.99% or more chance of living through it.... Hilarious. Edited by Roxdog, Feb 5 2008, 06:02 PM.
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Shagata Ganai	Feb 5 2008, 06:08 PM Post #23
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	Roxdog Feb 5 2008, 06:02 PM Shagata Ganai Feb 5 2008, 04:53 PM Go get yourself tasered. Then come back (if you live).... Bwahahhaa.....Yes, because you only have a 99.99% or more chance of living through it.... Hilarious. Bwweeeehhhheeeehhee. No balls , just numbers. Okay.



Roxdog	Feb 5 2008, 06:15 PM Post #24
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: Bwweeeehhhheeeehhee. No balls , just numbers. Okay. Right, I have facts. You have pure emotion and zero logic. Its plain for anyone reading this to see. You basically lied when you stated tazers aren't lethal "all the time." Wrong. They are not lethal a VAST MAJORITY of the time. 99.9999%. Take your emotionally-fueled lies somewhere else, simpleton. Edited by Roxdog, Feb 5 2008, 06:17 PM.
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Shagata Ganai	Feb 5 2008, 07:58 PM Post #25
Multiple Criminal Theorist Posts: 286 Group: Members Member #26 Joined: 01/15/08	And do tell us (if you know) where your numbers come from, dupe.



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