McCain is a traitor and collaborator

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McCain is a traitor and collaborator; Surprised this isn't front page news
Topic Started: Sep 22 2008, 08:35 PM (1,005 Views)
Tim Riches	Sep 22 2008, 08:35 PM Post #1
Posts: 349 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: 01/23/08	John McCain is a fucking traitor to his country! During his time in Vietnam, he was a prisoner of war who quickly collaborated with the enemy, making more than 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese. He had betrayed his country to such an extent that he was known as 'The Songbird' to the Communists. He has also been instrumental in scuttling the efforts of the families searching for their missing relatives because the documentation would expose his complicity with the enemy. Some say that the vehemence he displayed in Hanoi, threatening to destroy their trade status if they released the evidence, that he was likely a Manchurian Candidate. Vietnam Vets Against McCain Alex Jones Call-in McCain supports Vietcong John McCain Speaks As A POW-1985 EDIT: Spelling Edited by Tim Riches, Sep 26 2008, 06:18 PM.
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Shopnut	Sep 25 2008, 09:20 PM Post #2
Posts: 222 Group: BANNED! Member #767 Joined: 07/26/08	Tim Riches Sep 22 2008, 08:35 PM John McCain is a fucking traitor to his country! During his time in Vietnam, he was a prisoner of war who quickly collaborated with the enemy, making more than 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese. He had betrayed his country to such an extent that he was known as 'The Songbird' to the Communits. So were any POW's able to completely resist torture and keep from making any statements against the policies of the USA? How did McCain act any differently than other POW's who were tortured over there?
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JFK	Sep 25 2008, 10:08 PM Post #3
Posts: 4,150 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Shopnut Sep 25 2008, 09:20 PM Tim Riches Sep 22 2008, 08:35 PM John McCain is a fucking traitor to his country! During his time in Vietnam, he was a prisoner of war who quickly collaborated with the enemy, making more than 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese. He had betrayed his country to such an extent that he was known as 'The Songbird' to the Communits. So were any POW's able to completely resist torture and keep from making any statements against the policies of the USA? How did McCain act any differently than other POW's who were tortured over there? McCain was spilling his guts without torture.
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Shopnut	Sep 26 2008, 04:16 PM Post #4
Posts: 222 Group: BANNED! Member #767 Joined: 07/26/08	JFK Sep 25 2008, 10:08 PM McCain was spilling his guts without torture. Are you basing this on the claims made by North Vietnamese officials who denied that anyone was tortured by their government? While I have read claims that McCain talked without torture, I have never read any claim made by an American witness to any statements McCain prepared while a POW.
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Tim Riches	Sep 26 2008, 06:43 PM Post #5
Posts: 349 Group: Members Member #193 Joined: 01/23/08	Colonel Earl Hopper served 30 years as an Army Airborne Officer spending most of his time as an Intelligence Officer during the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Transcript of the interview: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml
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Shopnut	Sep 26 2008, 09:43 PM Post #6
Posts: 222 Group: BANNED! Member #767 Joined: 07/26/08	So you mean it is Earl Hopper’s word against McCain’s? Hopper is only presenting his opinion, and no evidence. Hopper does not look so good in this article; http://www.miafacts.org/hopper.htm .
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JFK	Sep 26 2008, 10:14 PM Post #7
Posts: 4,150 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Shopnut Sep 26 2008, 09:43 PM So you mean it is Earl Hopper’s word against McCain’s? Hopper is only presenting his opinion, and no evidence. Hopper does not look so good in this article; http://www.miafacts.org/hopper.htm . Well according to the source code of the page you linked to.... COL Joseph Schlatter is the author. This article does not make COL Joseph Schlatter look so good. http://www.ojc.org/powforum/schlatter/
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Shopnut	Sep 27 2008, 12:21 AM Post #8
Posts: 222 Group: BANNED! Member #767 Joined: 07/26/08	So we get back to the same question. Did anyone witness McCain singing like a bird without being tortured? Is anyone showing evidence that McCain was not tortured? They Vietnamese claim he was treated humanly, but can they be trusted? Where is the meat JFK? ETA; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0 Edited by Shopnut, Oct 2 2008, 09:49 PM.
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Shopnut	Oct 22 2008, 12:46 AM Post #9
Posts: 222 Group: BANNED! Member #767 Joined: 07/26/08	JFK, so now you claim that, "I did not save the link because I did not think you would be asking me for a cite over 2 years later." Weak. If anyone is going to make the claim you made, then they must have the evidence on hand. Anyone who makes this claim and is not willing to support it has a serious lack of decency, common sense and integrity. So, are you going to step up and show us the beef or just settle for libel? I expect nothing less than full disclosure of evidence to support a claim that any American is a traitor or collaborates with the enemy. No one else on this forum or any other forum should expect anything less either.
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lighted	Feb 23 2009, 03:42 AM Post #10
Posts: 143 Group: Members Member #1,000 Joined: 01/08/09	Well it doesn't take much thought to realize nobody won the Vietnam war, How exactly do you define winning, killing innocent people?, or perhaps killing people who didn't want war but were forced into it because of some personal feelings towards another country a political leader has? War is bad idea. McCain if won was about to go on Witch Hunts, Destroy those Catholics and bring protestantism, He's lost the Buddhist vote too. For his pastors really arrogant and repulsive comments on everything non protestant he lost alot of votes with those people. Edited by lighted, Feb 23 2009, 03:45 AM.
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