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Eyewitness : Susan McElwain
Topic Started: Jan 26 2008, 03:32 PM (3,510 Views)
Domenick DiMaggio

hamba
Jul 16 2008, 04:01 PM
Oh Sorry. I was waiting for some evidence or proof that she saw the aircraft at 10:06. I'm not here to debate the infamous 3 minute difference.

I was hoping for some evidence that the first possible time that she could possibly have heard the sirens was x and therfore she could only have seen the aircraft at x-y minutes. Or some other substantial proof linking her sighting to an official timeline. Not just assumptions. If an assumption is made, basis to this assumption would be benificial to understand your point.

Is it possible that she could have seen the explosion through the forrest?
Or was her first clue to a crash, the smoke she would have seen from the crash?

Addressing these two questions will establish whether or not it is a valid assumption, to assume she saw the aircraft within seconds of the recorded crash time.
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your old pair are looking quite worn.....

lets reflect back on post #117 by me, an honest american citizen concerned for his country who has spent nearly 2 years talking to eyewitnesses in shanksville and releases interviews uncut vs. you a dishonest little troll posting anonymously from africa and trying to portray yourself as some authoritive on something with absolutely nothing that gives you a single ounc of credibility.

first there is a link. this link reads like this :
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mgs.md.gov

do you understand what this link is?
do you claim this source is not credible?
does this source confirm a 10:06:05 crash time?
what is your source for the 10:03 time and why is it more credible?


using this to establish the 10:06:05 crash time and knowing susan witnessed this projectile before the mushroom cloud less than a mile from her rose up in the air i put the plane there no earlier than 10:06:00 and no later than 10:06:03

that is laid out in post #117.

that is exactly what you asked for you insincere little troll.

and you come here pretending like you want to work together. you're a big fucking fake just like the rest of them that has come through here over the years. quit wasting my time.


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Domenick DiMaggio
Jul 16 2008, 11:33 PM
hamba
Jul 16 2008, 04:01 PM
I'm not here to debate the infamous 3 minute difference.


does this source confirm a 10:06:05 crash time?
what is your source for the 10:03 time and why is it more credible?


using this to establish the 10:06:05 crash time and knowing susan witnessed this projectile before the mushroom cloud less than a mile from her rose up in the air i put the plane there no earlier than 10:06:00 and no later than 10:06:03


I have quoted your post. In it is my direct words, where I state I'm not here to debate the infamous 3 minute difference.

Please point out where I have claimed the crash time was 10:03. I am looking at this from a different perspective, concentarting on time differences between events. This is an easier, more agreeable approach at establishing any consensus.

So routing me to that source is pointless. I was wondering if you had some information on the actual time the first fire truck would have been in earshot range for her to hear it. I am not interested in 10:03 or 10:06. I am interested in the time difference from crash time to the time she would have first heard the fire trucks, or the time at which she first saw the smoke. Or was it possible for her to see the explosion through the forrest? Or you had her on camera say she saw her watch and it was 10:0whatever. Anything would be benificial.

As in a previous post of mine (post no 91), I theorised that due to her position and the height of the trees, she would not have been able to view the mushroom cloud, until it was 2779 feet in the air. How long would the mushroom cloud have taken to rise to this level?

I want to work backwards from a different time source. If it is at all possible. If we have a log of first 911 call was made at 10:06:32 for example then we can work with something. That is what I am trying to do. Once this is established you can easily rule out F20 for example and so forth.



Edited by hamba, Jul 17 2008, 11:27 AM.
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Domenick DiMaggio

well i cant tell you what time the 1st firetruck turned on its sirens.
the 911 calls are all in fbi custody so i cant tell you what time that was made.

i can tell you the explosion took place at 10:06:05 AM and that Susan McElwain saw the 'projectile' you think is a corporate plane at 40 feet AGL somewhere between 10:06:00 and 10:06:03.

you asked for a timeline and i gave you one.

don't like it?

DUH-BUNK IT.
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