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9/11 : The Shanksville Files Vol II : Wally Miller
Topic Started: Aug 28 2008, 01:52 AM (489 Views)
Domenick DiMaggio

Wally Miller Interview [46 minutes]
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Domenick DiMaggio

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d: now there was reports in the media that there was human remains in indian lake, floating in the lake....

w: incorrect.

d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

d: were they recovered from in the crater or were they off into the woods?

w: both

d: both?

w: both. the explanation was, when the plane came in it was coming low, it banked at a 90 degree angle allegedly from the people...from the struggle in the cockpit and the right wing hit the ground right there where the impact area is.. and as that happened it flipped the front end. the front 1/3 of the plane including the cockpit slammed into the ground off of the wing and the front 1/3 broke off and flew up into the trees with a fireball behind and the remaining 2/3 went down into the crater.



consistent with the evidence? yes.

consistent with the official story? no.

and thats just in the first 3 minutes......
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Zaphod 36

Great work!
I remember Wally Miller had mentioned that bigger parts of the plane were found at Indian Lake. Do you know the exact location(north Indian Lake or Marina)?
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d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

This means the report of John Fleegle is wrong:
On Wednesday morning, marina Service Manager John Fleegle found what he figured was a bone, washed up on one of the marina's concrete boat launches.

"It was maybe five inches long. It put me in mind of maybe a rib bone," Fleegle said. "I called the state police. They contacted the FBI, and they picked it up."

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IMO, the report is too much detailed to be wrong. Perhaps Wally Miller doesn`t know this report.
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Domenick DiMaggio

Zaphod 36
Aug 29 2008, 07:24 AM
Great work!
I remember Wally Miller had mentioned that bigger parts of the plane were found at Indian Lake. Do you know the exact location(north Indian Lake or Marina)?
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d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

This means the report of John Fleegle is wrong:
On Wednesday morning, marina Service Manager John Fleegle found what he figured was a bone, washed up on one of the marina's concrete boat launches.

"It was maybe five inches long. It put me in mind of maybe a rib bone," Fleegle said. "I called the state police. They contacted the FBI, and they picked it up."

Link

IMO, the report is too much detailed to be wrong. Perhaps Wally Miller doesn`t know this report.
perhaps wally miller isn't being 100% truthful about the human remains......?

i have very good reason to believe human remains were in indian lake and john fleegle is one of those reasons.

my understanding from speaking with wally is that the fbi recovered a lot of the remains and brought them into the dmort team. none of it was properly documented either.

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DoYouEverWonder

Domenick DiMaggio
Aug 29 2008, 05:36 PM
Zaphod 36
Aug 29 2008, 07:24 AM
Great work!
I remember Wally Miller had mentioned that bigger parts of the plane were found at Indian Lake. Do you know the exact location(north Indian Lake or Marina)?
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d: no remains were recovered from any other location than the actual site?

w: thats correct.

This means the report of John Fleegle is wrong:
On Wednesday morning, marina Service Manager John Fleegle found what he figured was a bone, washed up on one of the marina's concrete boat launches.

"It was maybe five inches long. It put me in mind of maybe a rib bone," Fleegle said. "I called the state police. They contacted the FBI, and they picked it up."

Link

IMO, the report is too much detailed to be wrong. Perhaps Wally Miller doesn`t know this report.
perhaps wally miller isn't being 100% truthful about the human remains......?

i have very good reason to believe human remains were in indian lake and john fleegle is one of those reasons.

my understanding from speaking with wally is that the fbi recovered a lot of the remains and brought them into the dmort team. none of it was properly documented either.

He also said that they wanted to create a grid on the site, to document where everything was and the FBI didn't want to do it because they didn't have enough money and resources. Give me a break. The worst attack in US History and they couldn't afford a couple of bales of twine?

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Domenick DiMaggio

DoYouEverWonder
Aug 30 2008, 04:38 AM
He also said that they wanted to create a grid on the site, to document where everything was and the FBI didn't want to do it because they didn't have enough money and resources. Give me a break. The worst attack in US History and they couldn't afford a couple of bales of twine?

absolutely. documented horribly. he talks about flight 427 that crashed out here. 427 fell out of the sky from 30,000+ feet. they made 24 inch gridded squares. i talked to people who worked that scene and their descriptions of working a plane crash and the descriptions from shanksville are as different as night and day. 427 had the resoucres. 93 easily could have.

the fbi did not want anything documented or cataloged. they wanted a quick clean up.

debris and remains should have been properly documented before removal. debris pieces should have been identified. this would have also helped identify remains too. if you identify pieces of the cockpit then you can determine who was in it too. you can do a full reconstruction and place people where they were when it came down. thats the type of forensics used in every crash but this one.

thats because there is a cover up in shanksville.

no one documented for photographed human remains allegedly recovered from inside the crater. they just removed them and brought them to wally miller.

the thing that disturbed me is when wally said he received hands and feet and thats what survived the crash and then goes on to say "and the reason is perfectly plausible to me" or something along those lines as if he himself questions how theres so little remains but yet hands and feet seemed to have survived the impact.

he also seems to get real uncomfortable when you mention shoot down. the first 2 times it seems to anger him but by the end you'll notice he mentions not knowing what happened to bring the plane down and in the beginning when he talks about the crash he states "allegedly" from the struggle inside the cockpit as bringing the plane down.

i suspect wally miller doesn't buy the official story either but you ain't ever going to have him admit it publicly. thats my 2 cents anyways.
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tedhuntington

Nice video interview. That issue of finding hands and feet is unusual, but what about that Miller received all remains from the temporary station? They didn't photograph the remains in their original place? Interesting open issue about if the 4 "hijackers" (who must have been CIA/ISI patsies...since..I mean by now...the evidence of an inside job is overwhelming) DNA being unclaimed. It leaves open finding the relatives of the so-called hijackers for DNA analysis and the 9/11-lie movement would have to then take the "fake id" option. Still it would be progress. Maybe the producers can describe the photos, were the body parts all hands and feet? Miller got good and pissy when they wanted to record the photo. No blood, but was body parts...still sounds unusual...it sounded like Millier sez "downed" instead of "don't", or maybe the audio was morphed at the ear. I would have liked to hear about - in the photo of the pit, where were the wings? Where was the tail section? Interesting to state officially that bodies were in that pit. That would probably conflict with a shoot-down scenario. Another interesting point is what about witnesses...Miller said that there was a crowd of people there when he got there - what about the people in those houses?
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Domenick DiMaggio

tedhuntington
Sep 5 2008, 09:35 PM
Nice video interview. That issue of finding hands and feet is unusual, but what about that Miller received all remains from the temporary station?
even more unusual and when wally says things like "the reason/explanation given to me" or "which is perfectly plausible" because it would appear even he himself found it odd that there were hands and feet but pretty much nothing else.

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They didn't photograph the remains in their original place?


they didn't photograph the remains [or anything else] from inside the crater. they didn't document the remains that were allegedly in the treetops nor did they any they recovered in the months that followed.

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Interesting open issue about if the 4 "hijackers" (who must have been CIA/ISI patsies...since..I mean by now...the evidence of an inside job is overwhelming) DNA being unclaimed. It leaves open finding the relatives of the so-called hijackers for DNA analysis and the 9/11-lie movement would have to then take the "fake id" option.


i still don't believe there were despite what wally claims to have recovered, i believe there were 3 and that they were armed as well.

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Maybe the producers can describe the photos, were the body parts all hands and feet?


there really isn't much to describe.......

what i saw could be attributed to 1 human being. i didn't see any pictures of any feet anywhere. i saw some internal organs....a left arm that went up to and included the left hand that was severed at the forearm.....a scalp.......then there were some bones in the dmort tent. mostly charred.

i should have clarified but i got the impression the fbi were recovering the remains without documenting their location and then taking them to wally and it wasn't actually wally recovering or documenting much of anything.

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Miller got good and pissy when they wanted to record the photo. No blood, but was body parts...still sounds unusual..


yeah he didn't want that to happen.

apparently he must not be aware of the pentagon images released during the moussaoui trial. way more graphic and harmful to a family member than anything i looked at.

did you see how pissy he got when i asked him if the fully intact skull i saw in one of the pictures on a table with remains was recovered there?

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it sounded like Millier sez "downed" instead of "don't", or maybe the audio was morphed at the ear. I would have liked to hear about -


in regards to what? i'm not sure which part your referencing.

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in the photo of the pit, where were the wings? Where was the tail section?


i guess the answer is not in it......?

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Interesting to state officially that bodies were in that pit. That would probably conflict with a shoot-down scenario.


i don't understand your reasoning on this. if the plane was shot down that would not therefor mean all/any passengers had to have been sucked out of the plane prior to it impacting.

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Another interesting point is what about witnesses...Miller said that there was a crowd of people there when he got there - what about the people in those houses?


oh yeah almost all of those people saw the little white plane susan mcelwain talked about and then a 'large' white plane which arrived at the scene 2-5 minutes later.

getting them to talk on film about it though is something else..........
Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Sep 6 2008, 09:32 AM.
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i don't understand your reasoning on this. if the plane was shot down that would not therefor mean all/any passengers had to have been sucked out of the plane prior to it impacting.


I was thinking that if the plane was shot down the bodies would be strewn about, but yeah I can see that maybe part of the plane would stay together if it was rigged together.
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