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indian lake marina debris & witnesses; proves a shoot down
Topic Started: Aug 18 2008, 05:28 AM (488 Views)
Domenick DiMaggio	Aug 18 2008, 05:28 AM Post #1
Posts: 2,001 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	234 S Shore Trl Central City, PA 15926 that is the address for indian lake marina. it is northeast of the crash site. plane debris cannot be blown northeast to the marina. jim brandt, john fleegle, carol delasko, tom spinelli, chris smith all hear the plane flying low overhead of them. chris smith describes a "screaming" sound. jim stop is fishing in indian lake at the marina and sees flight 93 fly overhead breaking apart in the sky. the blast trajectory into the woods is towards the southwest showing a plane flying in from the northeast [i.e. over indian lake marina] and not rollock scrapyard [north]. in my interview with wally miller he specifically states the plane came out of the northeast but then insisted that indian lake is southwest of the crash site. he also claims there is no debris to the east of the crater but indian lake marina is northeast exactly where wally miller said the plane came from.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Aug 19 2008, 06:09 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,001 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Indian Lake Marina 234 S Shore Trl Central City, PA 15926 Pittsburgh Post Gazette Quote: Finding the flight data recorder had been the focus of investigators as they widened their search area today following the discoveries of more debris, including what appeared to be human remains, miles from the point of impact at a reclaimed coal mine.......... Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday. 1) which way does the blast trajectory into the woods aim? 2) what direction from the site is indian lake marina? Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Aug 19 2008, 06:09 AM.
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JackD	Aug 19 2008, 07:09 PM Post #3
Posts: 262 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	... something apparently broke up in the sky over Shanksville area. What remains to be seen is whether it was Flight 93 -- or any other commercial jet. It is becoming apparent that the "Shanksville hole" was not part of a plane crash. the smoking hole DOES have a role, just, not as the ultimate site of UA93. A strategic diversion? an excuse to corral the local authorities, and press, into a "harmless free speech zone" while the other teams did necessary mopping-up? i dont know. one issue -- if the shanksville hole was made by a pre-planted bomb, than the whole site was a set-up. if it was made by an airborne object (missile, plane, kinetic weapon?) than this was a contingency plan.
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DoYouEverWonder	Aug 19 2008, 09:00 PM Post #4
Posts: 433 Group: Members Member #206 Joined: 01/24/08	Something doesn't make sense? This is the map that was going around after the attack that showed where Flight 93 supposedly crashed. This map shows the crash site to be NW of the Indian Lake Marina. Google Maps also shows the crash site to the NW of the Indian Lake Marina. However, Google Earth, put the crash site to SW of the Indian Lake Marina. WTF? Edited by DoYouEverWonder, Aug 19 2008, 09:00 PM.
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Sam	Aug 20 2008, 08:25 AM Post #5
Posts: 61 Group: Members Member #83 Joined: 01/16/08	JackD Aug 19 2008, 07:09 PM ... something apparently broke up in the sky over Shanksville area. What remains to be seen is whether it was Flight 93 -- or any other commercial jet. It is becoming apparent that the "Shanksville hole" was not part of a plane crash. the smoking hole DOES have a role, just, not as the ultimate site of UA93. A strategic diversion? an excuse to corral the local authorities, and press, into a "harmless free speech zone" while the other teams did necessary mopping-up? i dont know. one issue -- if the shanksville hole was made by a pre-planted bomb, than the whole site was a set-up. if it was made by an airborne object (missile, plane, kinetic weapon?) than this was a contingency plan. If something broke up in the sky over shanksville don't you think there would have been a lot more debris .
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weezula	Aug 20 2008, 09:52 AM Post #6
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #808 Joined: 08/19/08	Hey folks, There is a comprehensive page offered by Killtown that has some information to sift through. The crater could have easily been created from an air-to-air missile that simply missed the target (flight 93). If you get all the information together from the media, you will find that one engine was found in the bushes, one in the pond, one in the forest, one in the crater...yada, yada. It is tricky to find verifiable evidence but it exists. The FDR had been modified. Originally an Allied Signals FDR and updated with a Honeywell Beacon. There should be a maintenance record of this with United.
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Andoo Inc.	Aug 20 2008, 10:07 AM Post #7
Sir finds a lot Posts: 551 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: 01/15/08	How would we get the maintenance records?



weezula	Aug 20 2008, 10:22 AM Post #8
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #808 Joined: 08/19/08	Andoo Inc. Aug 20 2008, 10:07 AM How would we get the maintenance records? I can think of three ways: 1) A maintenance technician insider with United. 2) A court order 3) A telephone call to the right person. (Gil Scott Heron...right on bro!) Edited by weezula, Aug 20 2008, 10:24 AM.
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DoYouEverWonder	Aug 20 2008, 12:46 PM Post #9
Posts: 433 Group: Members Member #206 Joined: 01/24/08	Andoo Inc. Aug 20 2008, 10:07 AM How would we get the maintenance records? Ask the DOD. I heard they showed up at Boeing's headquarters in Seattle on 9/12 and confiscated all of their records. The US Military took over the investigation of 9/11, by the latest 9/12/01.
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weezula	Aug 21 2008, 12:44 AM Post #10
Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #808 Joined: 08/19/08	Here is a picture of the PW2000 Pratt engine. http://www.mindspring.com/~vandydog/PW2000.jpg Would this engine fit inside the scoop of a backhoe? Many questions and so few answers... How did the FDR get separated from the CVR by 10 feet of rubble? Who modified the FDR? Where did the white smoke come from as reported by a passenger in the washroom? How did he get through using a cell phone while plunging towards the ground at 500MPH? Where's the tail section? Why was the pilot who shot down flight 93 given a medal? Why no "steel melting" fuel fire and just one puff of light gray smoke? Why no imprint in the ground from the right horizontal stabilizer? Why was one of the passengers carrying their expired drivers license? How did the red bandanna survive the subsequent crash without having a drop of blood on it? Does anybody have a key to Iron Mountain? Edited by weezula, Aug 21 2008, 12:44 AM.
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