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Post your theory of what happened with Flight 93
Topic Started: Aug 12 2008, 11:48 PM (1,128 Views)
noeffects
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Passengers on '.93' are not heroes. It didn't happen. There is no plane....just a botched forgery of a plane wreck.
That's my opinion (see topic) and I'll even write it on a piece of paper for you.

I'll sit here with my red biker bandana on only hoping to satisfy Chippy. Only in theory though (see topic)....

So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
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Domenick DiMaggio

Chippy
Aug 16 2008, 11:52 AM
WHAT event took place at 10:06?
the plane impacted at 10:06 chippy.
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Aug 16 2008, 12:01 PM
SPreston
Aug 13 2008, 04:26 PM
Sounds like you are an avid movie watcher who believes everything you see on the boob tube.
Do you really believe that this gorgeous cleaned and pressed American style red bandana without any Islamic symbols or writing came from the remains of Flight 93?
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My answer to that would be to ask Pasquale Buzzelli. He's a man who was on the 22nd floor of the World Trade Center when it collapsed, and he made it out of the rubble with nothing more than a broken foot.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/

How did that happen? That question isn't as important as the fact that it DID happen. Explosions, collapses, etc. are not clean events, as I'm sure you know, so there's no reason to expect it to destroy absolutely everything with 100% efficiency. Sometimes people, or bandanas, get lucky and make it out of disasters unscathed.

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Do you really believe these alleged 'Islamic terrorist hijackers' would actually wear red bandanas as alleged in your favorite flick?
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I have no idea what movie you are referring to, but if your evidence for conspiracy is really based on the fashion choices of islamic extremists, then all I can do is laugh.

By the way, just like the guy who posted before you, you also failed to offer a comprehensive theory of your own. What are you afraid of? Why don't you offer us your theory?
I don't think that a man who gets off scop free from the 22nd floor is a good enough rebuttle to why a piece of cloth would survive a plane crash. Lets go for something more relevant. there has to be examples in real life.
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Domenick DiMaggio

noeffects
Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM
So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
i have an alternative theory.

some innocent americans were boarded onto a plane via the tarmac at newark international. the plane had 5 hijackers on board, at least 1 handgun, and most likely some sort of explosive device. when a delay was announced 2 of the cia trained hijackers backed out of the deal and exited the plane. they have never been identified and do not appear on any flight manifest. the plane intended to be caught on film in dc diving right into congress like the south tower attack in nyc, was delayed for 41 minutes. pilots surrendered the plane to the to the armed hijackers after receiving 2 advance notices that such events were taking place across the country. because 2 of the cia hijackers panicked because of the delay the 5 man team was down to 3 and lacking necessary muscle and presence to police their hostages which allowed passengers to make airphone calls and establish what had happened elsewhere. since the plane had been prepared in advance by the orchestrator's of the attack there most likely was some sort of surveillance on the plane and all outgoing airphone calls were monitored as well. when the perps learned their sacrifices were planning a revolt they were forced to abort the final part of their plan which would have allowed bush to immediately declare martial law and end the american democratic illusion of a republic because had the people on board the plane been successful the whole operation would have been a complete and catastrophic failure exposing the neonazicons plans by noon that day. the plane was downed by some sort of classified small white military jet which i previously thought to have been unmanned, but more than likely had a single pilot navigating it. the plane was flying southwest out of the northeast at the time when it was engaged at a high altitude roughly about 6 or 7 minutes before impacting. the engagement appears to have taken place over hooversville and the debris littered down on indian lake with some lighter pieces falling as far away as new baltimore. there were up to 3 events while the plane was in the air as described by residents of hooversville who were alerted to the presence of the plane by the loud explosions heard in the air. as the plane began its descent coming out of the east/slight northeast it turned the wings vertical to the ground and was flying on its side. the left engine had been severed from the plane landing 500-600 yards ahead of it in a pond. the plane with the explosive device on board hit right wingtip first and the explosive device on board detonated upon impacted as it was intended to when it struck congress leaving almost no evidence of it behind. the government then engaged in a disinformation campaign spinning the story, covering up the shoot down in order to insure no demand of an investigation would be wanted by family members confident their relatives revolt may have been successful, and turning it into a morbid support to invade an innocent nation who's only real crime is perhaps being unable to police themselves and thus allowing for cia black op camps to litter their country. who was on this plane and who wasn't for sure i can't say. the flight data recorder is a total fabrication. the transcript of the cockpit voice recorder is a total fabrication.

i'm open to no plane theories but first someone needs to explain to me how this plane disappeared that was witnessed north of the crash site by bob blair and doug miller but not south of the crash site by susan mcelwain.

obviously had the plane come directly over the scrapyard as indicated by the fake fdr data in a nose dive mrs mcelwain would have seen it. but had it approached low and more from the east this would explain how she didn't see it as her focus was more to the north at the white plane which flight 93 was allegedly coming from.

it didn't fly over her i know that. so when someone explains what happened to this plane i'll be a little more receptive to the no plane theories.

personally im not trying to advance any theory. this is my belief based on available evidence and a lot of my own personal on site research and interviews. all i hope is to accumulate enough evidence contradictory to the official story to present to the american public and family members to create an even more vocal demand for a new investigation with evidence the corporate controlled media won't even mention because ridiculing the eyewitnesses would be credibility suicide for them just like how they ignore cit's pentagon research and bring on jim fetzer to talk about no planes hitting the wtc instead of craig and aldo to talk about how all these eyewitnesses put the plane on a completely different flight path and none of them see the plane hitting any light poles and theres even one guy who sees the plane after the explosion way past the entry point flying away.......
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Chippy

noeffects
Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM
Passengers on '.93' are not heroes. It didn't happen. There is no plane....just a botched forgery of a plane wreck.
That's my opinion (see topic) and I'll even write it on a piece of paper for you.

I'll sit here with my red biker bandana on only hoping to satisfy Chippy. Only in theory though (see topic)....

So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
Thank you for asking. It was not my intention to debate other people's theories, as I stated in my original post.
Edited by Chippy, Aug 17 2008, 09:47 AM.
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Yo Domenick, sounds like you are getting alot of info from going there and doing interviews, ,etc.

So when are you going to make a Shanksville movie.?
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Domenick DiMaggio
Aug 17 2008, 09:34 AM
i have an alternative theory.
CIA trained? Evidence? Why can’t the CIA choose someone who does not fall to pieces over a simple matter of a flight delay? What physical evidence or witness testimony is there that the plane had been prepared in advance by the orchestrator's (sic) of the attack?

If four airliners crash into buildings, martial law is declared, but three will not do the trick?

If the airliner had been engaged and destroyed at high altitude, wouldn’t the wreckage have been in larger pieces more like the scene at Lockerby?

Do all witnesses usually agree during a violent incident like the crash of flight 93? I think not.
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Domenick DiMaggio

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Aug 17 2008, 10:07 PM
Domenick DiMaggio
Aug 17 2008, 09:34 AM
i have an alternative theory.
CIA trained? Evidence? Why can’t the CIA choose someone who does not fall to pieces over a simple matter of a flight delay? What physical evidence or witness testimony is there that the plane had been prepared in advance by the orchestrator's (sic) of the attack?

If four airliners crash into buildings, martial law is declared, but three will not do the trick?

If the airliner had been engaged and destroyed at high altitude, wouldn’t the wreckage have been in larger pieces more like the scene at Lockerby?

Do all witnesses usually agree during a violent incident like the crash of flight 93? I think not.
i have no interest in debating with you.

you are a troll.
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Why do people here accuse others of being a troll just because they do not agree with what they say?
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ShaDow

Because you "Reject Reality And Substitute Your Own"
Edited by ShaDow, Aug 18 2008, 03:18 AM.
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Domenick DiMaggio

noeffects
Aug 17 2008, 01:13 PM
Yo Domenick, sounds like you are getting alot of info from going there and doing interviews, ,etc.

So when are you going to make a Shanksville movie.?
hopefully it will be complete and released before november. :D
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The extreme velocity and force drove most of the plane parts underground, creating a crater but not a substantial amount of debris, which is more indicative of a crash more parallel to the ground.


I know you said you don't want to debate, but here's the thingl.. a "perpendicular" to the ground, which is what I think you meant, would not send debris over to the trees to burn only a relatively small section of the trees. It would send that debris equally in all directions.

The official story, if followed logically, disputes even itself.

The problem is that it is a cover story for something else. It attempts to explain all of the circumstances and that's why it doesn't work. our investigations do nothing more remarkable than to examine the evidence, and conclude whether or not the official story can be true.

Above is just one reason to doubt the story.

Fact, you can't have debris burried in the ground, shot latterally and discriminately toward one small section of woods, AND have debris found miles away from the supposed crash-site.

You can pick any one of them and claim it is the truth, but not all of them. Not even two of them.
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noeffects
Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM
Passengers on '.93' are not heroes. It didn't happen. There is no plane....just a botched forgery of a plane wreck.
That's my opinion (see topic) and I'll even write it on a piece of paper for you.

I'll sit here with my red biker bandana on only hoping to satisfy Chippy. Only in theory though (see topic)....

So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
I beg to differ, and I hope the opportunistic JREF-types who read this will give us credit for calling each other out.

The victims of flight 93, however they died, died honorably and faced death like true heroes. We just disagree on how they died.

That doesn't take away their honor.
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Domenick DiMaggio
 
i have no interest in debating with you.

you are a troll.
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Why do people here accuse others of being a troll just because they do not agree with what they say?
ShaDow
 
Because you "Reject Reality And Substitute Your Own"

Because regardless what you say, you have proven to us that you are a troll.

We would really love to have an honest person who does real intensive research, come here to debate from the Official Conspiracy Theory side. Apparently such a person does not exist. All we get is dishonesty and trolling. We are searching for justice for the victims of 9-11. We do not need your pseudoskepticism.
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Domenick DiMaggio

so chippy.....

what brings this inquiry about anyways?
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Aug 18 2008, 10:30 AM
noeffects
Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM
Passengers on '.93' are not heroes. It didn't happen. There is no plane....just a botched forgery of a plane wreck.
That's my opinion (see topic) and I'll even write it on a piece of paper for you.

I'll sit here with my red biker bandana on only hoping to satisfy Chippy. Only in theory though (see topic)....

So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
I beg to differ, and I hope the opportunistic JREF-types who read this will give us credit for calling each other out.

The victims of flight 93, however they died, died honorably and faced death like true heroes. We just disagree on how they died.

That doesn't take away their honor.
Look-up..Well as for honorable deaths..... if I was unloaded in Cleveland into a NASA death chamber with no clue as to wtf ....then got gassed, or shot, and died ? might of not even known.aw shucks.... where was my sweet heroic death then? :-(



Domenick...thanks for pointing out the aura of trolliness in thread , But more for getting people more informed on the specifics by doing interviews and going there. keep posting, eager to see the movie. :thumbs:



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Aug 19 2008, 08:21 AM
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Aug 18 2008, 10:30 AM
noeffects
Aug 16 2008, 08:15 PM
Passengers on '.93' are not heroes. It didn't happen. There is no plane....just a botched forgery of a plane wreck.
That's my opinion (see topic) and I'll even write it on a piece of paper for you.

I'll sit here with my red biker bandana on only hoping to satisfy Chippy. Only in theory though (see topic)....

So. Any other theories than Chippy and Bernys' OCT.?
I beg to differ, and I hope the opportunistic JREF-types who read this will give us credit for calling each other out.

The victims of flight 93, however they died, died honorably and faced death like true heroes. We just disagree on how they died.

That doesn't take away their honor.
Look-up..Well as for honorable deaths..... if I was unloaded in Cleveland into a NASA death chamber with no clue as to wtf ....then got gassed, or shot, and died ? might of not even known.aw shucks.... where was my sweet heroic death then? :-(
no one knows how they died, except for GOd and the people who killed them. you assume they died a certain way. we do not know this.

Hopefully, they died on their feet giving their captors hell before they were taken from us.

In my opinion, they died by the hands of an enemy, which would make any Klingon become teary-eyed. ;)

not only that, but think of if they were really shot down?!?!?! that would mean they were sacrificed to save the lives of others, which is also honorable, from a certain point of view.
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Aug 18 2008, 02:27 PM
Because regardless what you say, you have proven to us that you are a troll.

We would really love to have an honest person who does real intensive research, come here to debate from the Official Conspiracy Theory side. Apparently such a person does not exist. All we get is dishonesty and trolling. We are searching for justice for the victims of 9-11. We do not need your pseudoskepticism.
So where is this proof? Got a link? I think not. I am merely asking questions and getting insults as answers. While I have made a few errors, I have been honest here.
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Domenick DiMaggio

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Aug 18 2008, 10:30 AM
The victims of flight 93, however they died, died honorably and faced death like true heroes. We just disagree on how they died.

That doesn't take away their honor.
i have to agree with this. i believe it was their actions that forced the bush administration to abort and destroy the plane.
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So where is this proof? Got a link? I think not.


Title of thread = Post your THEORY
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Aug 21 2008, 03:03 AM
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So where is this proof? Got a link? I think not.


Title of thread = Post your THEORY
So according to you, anyone who posts on this thread and is not posting a theory, is a troll? You can do better than that.
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Domenick DiMaggio

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Aug 23 2008, 01:53 AM
ShaDow
Aug 21 2008, 03:03 AM
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So where is this proof? Got a link? I think not.


Title of thread = Post your THEORY
So according to you, anyone who posts on this thread and is not posting a theory, is a troll? You can do better than that.

the content of your 153 posts to date is what makes you a troll.
Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Aug 23 2008, 08:13 AM.
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Domenick DiMaggio
Aug 23 2008, 08:13 AM
the content of your 153 posts to date is what makes you a troll.
BS. None of my posts have been deliberately inflammatory. Just how do you define trolling anyway?
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