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Just to make you aware; Hani Hanjour Reloaded
Topic Started: Jan 21 2008, 05:32 PM (3,939 Views)
NK-44
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Hani Hanjour reloaded


This is in essential a repost from the old forum.

I added some parts to the 'Maneuver'-section. More statements by pilots confirming the difficulty of
the performed maneuver, and that it requires advanced skills to do so.

I have added also some aspects to the section "Let's look into another aspect of the maneuver-scenario", including two new sub-sections: "Was there a fight going on?" and "The conflict of the official account with crash site observations". I also had a look into the claims made by an Al-Qaeda operator, that Hanjour wasn't piloting Flight 77. You could find this at the end of the article in the section "The other dead pilot - or Al-Qaida's debunking attempt."

Changes have been made in the section about Hanjour's flying skills mainly on those two entries (and the summary):

June/Juli 2001 - Caldwell Flight Academy Fairfield, New Jersey
August 2001 - Congressional Air Charters Gaithersburg, Maryland

If you are already convinced that Hanjour wasn't piloting Flight 77, then I highly recommed to spend your time on the second part "The special treament", in particular the sub-section "The living pilots".
No changes have been made in part two besides the added section at the end.

Broken links and typos will be (hopefully) fixed later B-)

Ready for Reload!?


update

-added two statements of pilots claiming that Hanjour was capable to pilot Flight 77

-added under 'What evidence do we have that Hanjour was even on Flight 77?' a short section:
'Hanjour's relatives also don't think that he was on a suicide mission'

-also don't miss this statement I found regarding Raissi:

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A British prosecutor, representing the US government, said: "We have sufficient evidence to show not just association with the pilots - it goes further than that. We have evidence of active conspiracy-proving correspondence and telecommunications with them as well as video footage of them together. We also have proof that they travelled together."


Evidence? Proof? Yes, sure! :candle:

Despite two or three, all broken links should work again. B-)
Edited by NK-44, Jan 23 2008, 04:01 PM.
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NK-44
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Also added stuff to Hanjour's flying skills.

See updated entry above.
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A recent news media interview with Omar, the son of Osama Bin Laden, revealed the reaction "maybe" when asked if his father was responsible for 911.

We need for him to elaborate on that one. It would help
prove what so many intelligent people already know--

It's impossible for planes alone to bring down those towers.
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dylan avery
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Your first post is an awesome one, Seb. Good to see you around. :cigar:
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NK-44
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see update above.


dylan avery
Jan 22 2008, 12:03 PM
Your first post is an awesome one, Seb. Good to see you around. :cigar:
Thanks man. Seen that the Final is presented on the Film Gala in Berlin. Great!

Is there a chance that anyone of you guys will be there?
Edited by NK-44, Jan 23 2008, 04:00 PM.
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look-up
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RE: Omar Bin Laden interview... we dont' really know if we heard the whole thing or in its original configuration.
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NK-44
Jan 23 2008, 03:59 PM
see update above.


dylan avery
Jan 22 2008, 12:03 PM
Your first post is an awesome one, Seb. Good to see you around. :cigar:
Thanks man. Seen that the Final is presented on the Film Gala in Berlin. Great!

Is there a chance that anyone of you guys will be there?
Unfortunately not. :ouch:
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Nevermind
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Oh, you didn't know?
Moved to Hijackers
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Kaiya

NK-44
Jan 21 2008, 05:32 PM
Hani Hanjour reloaded


This is in essential a repost from the old forum.

Can you post it somewhere besides the old forum? I am not registered there. Thanks.

Kaiya
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Kaiya
Jan 25 2008, 01:17 AM
NK-44
Jan 21 2008, 05:32 PM
Hani Hanjour reloaded


This is in essential a repost from the old forum.

Can you post it somewhere besides the old forum? I am not registered there. Thanks.

Kaiya
Hani Hanjour reloaded
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Andoo Inc.
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Sir finds a lot
NK 44 could you post it again. I can't seem to figure out how to click
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illeagalhunter
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In the FBI time line he has a multitude of flying lessons.
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JackD

Please note that FBI director Robert Mueller admits, embarrassed, that to date no document or paper or outline or plot of the 9/11 attacks has ever been found, either in US or in Afghanistan.

This may be one reason why the FBI does not liist Osam Bn laden as "wanted" for 9/11/01 attacks.

there have never been any charges filed in any US court of law against any of the suspects or unindicted co-conspirators, even though no one claims that the ENTIRE plot could have been done by the 19 allged, from fundraising to lessons , etc.

Think of that.

No charges filed in a court of law. (forget gitmo fakery)

perhaps the case would not stand?
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Shopnut

A few comments about the Hani Hanjour Reloaded post.

A Washington post reporter claims sources say the plane was flown with “extraordinary skill, blah blah blah”, but the sources are never identified. An unidentified source is just as good as no source at all.

Anyone (one of those unidentified sources) who describes flight 77 as “virtually a textbook turn and landing” is not so bright. Airliners do not approach and land at the speeds flight 77 was flying.

CDR Kolstad is critical of the 9/11 events, but he is so blind that he asks, “Where are the steel engine parts? Where is the steel landing gear?” Has he never surfed the internet or performed the least amount of research? His statements are not credible in the least.

CDR Muga’s statements are equally dubious. A high speed stall is not going to occur when the nose is pushed down to lose altitude. I guess he also conveniently forgot that flight crews typically did not resist the hijackers prior to 9/11.
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JackD

for debunking skeptics

which planes do you believe were hijacked on 9/11/01? what documented evidence exists that establishes that alleged hijackers were in fact aboard those planes?

are the hijacker-pilots, in your view, capable of piloting the planes in the maneuvers described by the radar, video, FDR data, etc?

are the hijacker-pilots, in your view, capable of creating all the physical damage effects observed on 9/11, at the WTC site, at the Pentagon, and SHanksville?

that's the big question.
Edited by JackD, Aug 1 2008, 02:09 PM.
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JackD
Aug 1 2008, 02:07 PM
are the hijacker-pilots, in your view, capable of piloting the planes in the maneuvers described by the radar, video, FDR data, etc?

Sure. Why not? They took control after the aircraft were airborne. Flight 93 crashed into the ground; hard to miss the ground. Flight 77 crashed into the extremely large Pentagon, very hard building to miss. If the hijacker piloting the plane that hit the second tower was a better pilot, then he might have made a center hit instead of the corner.
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