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Boarding Flight 93.....
Topic Started: Jan 20 2008, 02:42 PM (1,065 Views)
Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 20 2008, 02:42 PM Post #1
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Pittsburgh Post Gazette Quote: The Flight 93 passengers had walked down the concourse of Terminal A, where they breezed past the security gate, then walked the 100 yards to a long circular hallway from which the boarding ramps jutted out like spokes. At Gate 17, they strode another 70 feet down the jetway, made a left turn, and were inside the Boeing 757. The plane pulled away from the gate on time. Then it sat. Fayetteville Observer Former NFL NY Giants CLayton White remembers it a little differently..... Quote: But the most lasting memory of White’s time in New York had nothing to do with football. “We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning,’’ White said. “We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. We usually get off the plane on the tarmac and board a bus to get to our cars. “I noticed another plane sitting next to ours because the people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway. “Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania on 9/11. That was a very eerie feeling.’’
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Andoo Inc.	Jan 22 2008, 12:44 PM Post #2
Sir finds a lot Posts: 551 Group: Members Member #42 Joined: 01/15/08	it has to feel weird believing the Official Story and then see all of these misnomers. Do they just put it past there head like an irrelevant piece of information.?



no family	Jan 23 2008, 05:06 AM Post #3
Posts: 23 Group: BANNED! Member #191 Joined: 01/23/08	What is the point of this post?
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 23 2008, 12:07 PM Post #4
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	victim's family Jan 23 2008, 05:06 AM What is the point of this post? the point is there is conflict about how the passengers boarded the plane. I answered your question so please in return answer mine : did you lose a family member on 9/11?
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no family	Jan 23 2008, 01:28 PM Post #5
Posts: 23 Group: BANNED! Member #191 Joined: 01/23/08	There are a few things about that excerpt from Clayton White that should be considered. First being that the stewardess that told him it was flight 93 two weeks later could have been mistaken. Second, if the passengers were boarded in such a strange and suspicious manner (and is it so strange and suspicious? Im not even sure), why do it in front of so many eyewitnesses, out in the open? You say it is a conflict about how the plane was boarded. What is the opposing report that conflicts with this one? Finally, the quote has him saying, " “I noticed another plane sitting next to ours because the people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway." He says, "the people." Who are the people? Passengers? Flight crew? Airport employees loading supplies, luggage, etc? There are probably more things to consider. These four are just off the top of my head. Did I lose a family member on 9/11? Not that I know of. Edited by no family, Jan 23 2008, 01:40 PM.
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Lin Kuei	Jan 23 2008, 01:51 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,309 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	victim's family Jan 23 2008, 01:28 PM He says, "the people." Who are the people? Passengers? Flight crew? Airport employees loading supplies, luggage, etc? The people must mean the crew and passengers, as they enter the same way, and also remember "people were walking to the plane across the tarmac instead of through the jetway." That discounts airport employees who load luggage, as I've never seen them loading luggage through a jetway. Edited by Lin Kuei, Jan 23 2008, 01:51 PM.
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no family	Jan 24 2008, 06:20 AM Post #7
Posts: 23 Group: BANNED! Member #191 Joined: 01/23/08	Pretty reasonable answer. How bout the other three issues I mentioned?
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look-up	Jan 24 2008, 10:17 AM Post #8
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	Lin. Admins should not allow someone to use the name "victim's family" if they are indeed not family members of a 9/11 victim. That is very dishonest. We would be crucified by the skeptics if we did such a thing. Just a suggestion.
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Lin Kuei	Jan 24 2008, 10:46 AM Post #9
Posts: 1,309 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	look-up Jan 24 2008, 10:17 AM Lin. Admins should not allow someone to use the name "victim's family" if they are indeed not family members of a 9/11 victim. That is very dishonest. We would be crucified by the skeptics if we did such a thing. Just a suggestion. Agreed. I only just noticed their admission of not losing any family on 9.11. Thanks for the heads up, it is absolutely disgusting to give the impression of being a victim's family member simply to attempt to give credibility to your argument. It is indicative of many things... V.Family your member name will now be edited. Please PM me with something more to your tastes if the name i have designated you is not adequate. Either way your methods disgust us all. Edited by Lin Kuei, Jan 24 2008, 10:49 AM.
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look-up	Jan 24 2008, 12:38 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	LOL, "no family". It's probably troy from WV again. and they say WE disrespect the family members and engage in disinformation... thanks for acting on this.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 24 2008, 01:25 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Lin Kuei Jan 24 2008, 10:46 AM look-up Jan 24 2008, 10:17 AM Lin. Admins should not allow someone to use the name "victim's family" if they are indeed not family members of a 9/11 victim. That is very dishonest. We would be crucified by the skeptics if we did such a thing. Just a suggestion. Agreed. I only just noticed their admission of not losing any family on 9.11. i remember this person from the old forum. they wanted to see evidence the fbi bombed the wtc in 93 and after i presented quite a bit of evidence they said they had no time for it and there were more pressing matters to discuss......
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no family	Jan 24 2008, 02:40 PM Post #12
Posts: 23 Group: BANNED! Member #191 Joined: 01/23/08	Quote: Lin. Admins should not allow someone to use the name "victim's family" if they are indeed not family members of a 9/11 victim. That is very dishonest. We would be crucified by the skeptics if we did such a thing. Dishonest? I never claimed that I was a family member of a 9/11 victim. In fact, when asked if I was, I immediately said, "not that I know of." And that is my honest answer. Quote: "it is absolutely disgusting to give the impression of being a victim's family member simply to attempt to give credibility to your argument. It is indicative of many things..." You're right. It is disgusting. It's a good thing that that's not what my motive was for choosing that name. Otherwise, I could easily have made up some story to make it seem as if I was a family member of a 9/11 victim. I didnt do that, but it would have been very easy to do so. A PM could have been made to the admins if somebody had an issue with my name. And then an admin could have PMed me about changing my name. Or, look-up could have started a new thread about my name. But instead, this thread runs off topic. So, in an attempt to bring the topic back on track I will repeat my statements about the Clayton White excerpt. The stewardess that told him it was flight 93 two weeks later could have been mistaken. If the passengers were boarded in such a strange and suspicious manner (and is it so strange and suspicious? Im not even sure), why do it in front of so many eyewitnesses, out in the open? You say it is a conflict about how the plane was boarded. What is the opposing report that conflicts with this one? Edited by no family, Jan 24 2008, 02:41 PM.
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look-up	Jan 24 2008, 04:14 PM Post #13
Posts: 1,642 Group: Admins Member #63 Joined: 01/15/08	yes she could have been mistaken. and yes, it would be suspicious to load a plane of that size from the tarmac, since it is almost never done, and because it might present an opportunity for things to be loaded onto the plane that would not go through the normal gate-security checkpoints. furthermore, any contradictions with what might seem to be "normal" should be examined. and when you have so many contradictions in the official story that it is hard to find something that is NOT contradicted, then you have a serious problem.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 24 2008, 04:15 PM Post #14
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	no family Jan 24 2008, 02:40 PM 1) The stewardess that told him it was flight 93 two weeks later could have been mistaken. 2) If the passengers were boarded in such a strange and suspicious manner (and is it so strange and suspicious? Im not even sure), why do it in front of so many eyewitnesses, out in the open? 3) You say it is a conflict about how the plane was boarded. What is the opposing report that conflicts with this one? 1) And could not have been equally. 2) "so many eyewitnesses"? The only eyewitness account we have is 1 so far. We don't even know who the stewardess is. And the only reason Clayton found out is because the Giants plane must have had a set crew. 3) Right above it in the opening post........ edit : typo Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Jan 25 2008, 09:28 AM.
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Zaphod 36	Jan 25 2008, 06:45 AM Post #15
Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #210 Joined: 01/25/08	Quote: “We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning,’’ White said. “We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. What was the airline which White has taken on that morning from Denver? I didn´t found it on BTS. What was the boarding time of Flight 93?
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no family	Jan 25 2008, 02:44 PM Post #16
Posts: 23 Group: BANNED! Member #191 Joined: 01/23/08	Quote: no family Jan 24 2008, 02:40 PM 1) The stewardess that told him it was flight 93 two weeks later could have been mistaken. 2) If the passengers were boarded in such a strange and suspicious manner (and is it so strange and suspicious? Im not even sure), why do it in front of so many eyewitnesses, out in the open? 3) You say it is a conflict about how the plane was boarded. What is the opposing report that conflicts with this one? Domenick DiMaggio CIT Jan 24 2008, 4:15 PM: 1) And could not have been equally. 2) "so many eyewitnesses"? The only eyewitness account we have is 1 so far. We don't even know who the stewardess is. And the only reason Clayton found out is because the Giants plane must have had a set crew. 3) Right above it in the opening post........ 1) Ill get to that. 2) Yes, so many eyewitnesses. You think Clayton White was the only person around? You think that because nobody else (that you are aware of) has spoken means that White was the only person who could have seen it. This actually brings up an interesting point. Are there other people to corroborate White's story? Or is it just him who saw this? 3)Not really. That article doesnt say that NOBODY entered the plane from the tarmac. It says the passengers entered traditionally. But there could have been other people who entered other ways. Back to 1): The stewardess. So, essentially, this whole thing about boarding United 93 rests on one person's word? If she hadnt said that that plane was United 93, thered be no issue here? One person's word? And like you said...we dont even know who she is. Hardly credible information.
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Reddawn	Jan 26 2008, 11:37 AM Post #17
Posts: 57 Group: Members Member #39 Joined: 01/15/08	“Two weeks later, as we’re taking another plane to a game, one of the stewardesses informed us the plane that had been boarding next to us was Flight 93..." How do we know it was the same plane that the man remembered? First of all, there are two sides to "next to us"...one on the left and one on the right. Also, I sometimes refer to my neighbor as my "next door neighbor" even though he lives 2 doors down. The point is this. Often times people "stretch" details of events to make it look like they were closer to the event than they were. They exagerate tiny details and say things like 'I was there in the mall at the same time the gunman started shooting" even though, in actuality, they were there two hours earlier. This is done to give them a false sense of importance. The "I was part of it" mentality. I'm not saying this is the case here because I don't know. But, it happens much more often than you might think. This whole point seems like a hugh stretch at the very least...
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 28 2008, 11:17 AM Post #18
Posts: 2,006 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	Zaphod 36 Jan 25 2008, 06:45 AM Quote: “We had played a Monday night game in Denver, and flew back home the next morning,’’ White said. “We landed in Newark, N.J., about 6:45 in the morning. What was the airline which White has taken on that morning from Denver? I didn´t found it on BTS. What was the boarding time of Flight 93? I'm going to imagine it was most likely a private chartered jet exclusive to NFL players. This is a guess but seems like the most logical way for elite athletes to travel.
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