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thank you "jref"; Woke Me Up
Topic Started: Jan 20 2008, 06:57 AM (2,114 Views)
nicepants	Jan 25 2008, 10:40 AM Post #51
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie nicepants I may be right, I may be wrong, but so far have seen no proof that my belief is wrong. Talk about selective ignorance!! lol I have posted the relevant sections from emails from both Oliver, Orphia Nay and highlighted a link from the JREF forum in which the JREFers talk about my banning, in other words the admins are aware of this. All of this you have willfully ignored to hold on to your belief and if this isn't evidence of JREF groupthink, then I do not know what its. Of course, you will deny this because you are a pseudo-skeptic. (See my signature!) I spoke directly with the admin who issued your ban. You were not banned simply because people on the board "suspected" you. Stundie nicepants The JREF moderators didn't ban you on suspicion, they had their own evidence. What other evidence?? You keep spouting on about it and speculating, yet provide none whatsoever! Server logs, registration information, IP tracking, and a host of other information that is not made available to the public. If you want to know, ask the moderator who banned you. I've only provided the publicly-available information. Stundie nicepants Remember that they did not make their decision based solely on the facts that I presented above. Please present the OTHER FACTS which made them come to their decision? Why don't you just face it, you have nothing other than speculation as to why I am banned. The JREF admin said you were a sock, that's not me speculating. Stundie All you are doing is highlighting how intellectually dishonesty and being a total coward who can't admit that they are wrong. Nicepants, if you can't be honest with yourself, how the hell can you be honest on a forum?? If you can prove that you're not a sock of Pdoh, I'll admit that I'm wrong. To me, even without seeing all of the evidence it appears that the admin at JREF was right. But as I said before, I've only posted the public information, people are free to come to their own conclusions. You don't have to agree. For as much as your purport to dislike JREF, you sure do seem to be upset about being banned there.
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Stundie	Jan 25 2008, 11:33 AM Post #52
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants I spoke directly with the admin who issued your ban. You were not banned simply because people on the board "suspected" you. So for what other reason was I banned then? You keep stating this, yet for you to believe it, you must have other evidence to to support your claims otherwise you are making unsubstaniated claims. (See my sig about Psuedo-skepticism below again) You believe the admin who issued the ban, yet have no evidence to support their claims. Its obvious I'm not so please tell me what other evidence they have....otherwise retract the claim and admit you maybe wrong. nicepants Server logs, registration information, IP tracking, and a host of other information that is not made available to the public. If you want to know, ask the moderator who banned you. I've only provided the publicly-available information. Please explain how mine and pdohertys server logs, registration information, IP and host of other information is the same? How can it be the same when we are 2 different people, from 2 different locations with 2 different sets of details?? It is you that is claiming that they look at all of this information, all of which is unsubstaniated.. You are just trusting what the moderator tells you and are not applying the doublestandards in the application of critisism. I have provided evidence that I am not pdoherty, yet you are suggesting that the mods could be correct without any proof that me an pdoherty share the same information. Which is impossible as I keep stating, I'm not pdoherty. nicepants The JREF admin said you were a sock, that's not me speculating. I understand that the JREF Admin think I was a sock, we all do and I have never denied this. What I do deny is that you were providing evidence to support their claims, when their evidence doesn't stand up to scrutiny and are unsubstaniated. The only evidence you have provided us with is that other members thought I was pdoherty, the mods agreed because I joined the same day. Like NK-44 said, I suppose me joining the JREF forum on the same day as Pdoherty is a false flag hey Nicepants?? lol This is even more hilarious considering that your friend defaultdotxbe as admitted that our IP locations are 40 miles apart. lol Ignorance is still bliss hey Nicepants! nicepants If you can prove that you're not a sock of Pdoh, I'll admit that I'm wrong. For a start, you or the JREF Mods have ABSOLUTELTY NO PROOF THAT I AM PDOHERTY, so how can I prove to you that I am not?? I suppose I could make a unsubstaniated claim about you by claiming that you enjoy cottaging and then ask you to prove that you don't enjoy it?? Or how about you enjoy dogging, and then ask you to prove you don't?? You have already made your mind up about this which is hilarious considering that you think you have been communicating with Pdoherty at the SLC forum instead of me for the last year. Also....and this is embarressing for you as you keep ignoring it. Defaultdotxbe knows that me and Pdoherty are not the same people and as stated this on the very thread. Yet you still want me to prove to you that I'm not pdoherty. Your are stretching your pseudo-skeptical skills to the limit here with your denial. hahahahahahahaha!! nicepants To me, even without seeing all of the evidence it appears that the admin at JREF was right. So please explain without resulting to psuedoskeptical skills how they are right? When they are wrong? nicepants But as I said before, I've only posted the public information, people are free to come to their own conclusions. You don't have to agree. And I have provided counter evidence which backs up my claims which you IGNORE, so of course you will never agree because you are a typical psuedoskeptic and will ignore evidence, which doesn't fit your theory as highlighted by the intellectual dishonesty through this thread. So I was demanding evidence from Gravy which I knew he couldn't provide. JREF mods recevied reports by the groupthinkers I was a sock of pdoherty. They checked out the claims and the only evidence is that we joined on the same day and proceeded to ban me. I mailed mods to find out why I am banned, but never receive a reply. Default tells me why I am banned and to contact mods, which I already had. I still get no reply. Pdoherty speaks with Orphia Nay and tells me the mods realise the mistake and that a thread over at the JREF forum is started discussigng the topic. Oliver contacts me and tells me they are aware that I am not pdoherty. Stundie Awards are started and my ban is never lifted. Yes, you are free to come to your own conclusions nicepants, once you take the ignorance shades off!! hahahahahaha!!! Shame on you Nicepants!
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nicepants	Jan 25 2008, 12:38 PM Post #53
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie nicepants I spoke directly with the admin who issued your ban. You were not banned simply because people on the board "suspected" you. So for what other reason was I banned then? You keep stating this, yet for you to believe it, you must have other evidence to to support your claims otherwise you are making unsubstaniated claims. (See my sig about Psuedo-skepticism below again) You believe the admin who issued the ban, yet have no evidence to support their claims. They are not my claims, they are the claims of the admins. It is not my job to support THEIR claims. Stundie This is even more hilarious considering that your friend defaultdotxbe as admitted that our IP locations are 40 miles apart. I could remotely use an IP that's 150 miles away from me and claim that I'm someone else, it proves nothing. Stundie I suppose me joining the JREF forum on the same day as Pdoherty is a false flag hey Nicepants?? lol Read for comprehension. You did not register the same day as pdoherty. You registered the day that he was banned, after he was already caught trying to register another sock. Stundie They checked out the claims and the only evidence is that we joined on the same day and proceeded to ban me. Wrong, again. Please read my posts before responding to them. (See previous response) ETA: Stundie For a start, you or the JREF Mods have ABSOLUTELTY NO PROOF THAT I AM PDOHERTY, so how can I prove to you that I am not?? I never claimed I have proof. I posted the evidence I gathered. As for how you can prove your claim...proof of your identity would be a start. Edited by nicepants, Jan 25 2008, 12:42 PM.
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Stundie	Jan 25 2008, 02:41 PM Post #54
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants They are not my claims, they are the claims of the admins. It is not my job to support THEIR claims. No it's your job to support their claims if you believe them nicepants. You obviously believe them, so you need to be able to support their claims otherwise you are making more unsubstantiated claims. Your failure to do this just highlights what a coward you are. If you cannot support their claims, then you have no basis for your opinion that the JREF Forum were right to ban me. Its quite simple Mr Psuedoskeptic!! nicepants I could remotely use an IP that's 150 miles away from me and claim that I'm someone else, it proves nothing. This just highlights how stupid your arguments are and how the double standard in the application of critisism works in the case of a psuedoskeptic like yourself. So if this proves nothing, and I can't use it as an argument to prove that I am not Pdoherty as I'm 40 miles away, then the JREF Mods cannot use this as an excuse as to why they banned me if it proves nothing. In other words, you are highlighting your psuedoskeptical skills by saying that the JREF Mods used this information to prove I was a sock, but I can't use this as evidence to prove that I am not Pdoherty. As it's proves nothing according to you. So the only shambolic piece of evidence you have left is that they banned me based on the suspicision of the JREF Groupthinkers as I always suspected. No doubt as I have shown, to save Gravy from being embarressed!! nicepants Read for comprehension. You did not register the same day as pdoherty. You registered the day that he was banned, after he was already caught trying to register another sock. You did say this in an earlier post didn't you..... nicepants 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. So for the record it is your reading comprehension which needs to be reviewed. Again more pseudosketpical skills you are demonstrating.....lol nicepants Wrong, again. Please read my posts before responding to them. (See previous response) See psuedosketpical tactics in my signature and check out the ones you are using. nicepants I never claimed I have proof. I posted the evidence I gathered. You gathered evidence, but it doesn't fit your conclusion. So instead of looking at all the evidence, you decide to ignore my evidence and still stick with the same conclusion, even though you have just shot down your own evidence that the JREF thought I had a similar IP. Everyone who reads this for themselves how much of an intellectual coward you are and the denial which you carry by the bucketload. nicepant As for how you can prove your claim...proof of your identity would be a start. Here is how it works nicepants. If you or JREFers claim that I am Pdoherty, then it is upto you to PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE! You have failed to do so. You cannot then ask me to prove to you that I am not Pdoherty, considering you have no evidence in the 1st place. Do not ask me to prove a negative, because thats not how western societies work, it's called innocent until proven guilty. So unless you have proven that I am pdoherty, (Which you haven't and evidence suggests I am not!) then I am still innocent. Do you understand this or are you intentionally playing the role of a pseudoskeptic??
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nicepants	Jan 25 2008, 02:49 PM Post #55
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie No it's your job to support their claims if you believe them nicepants. You obviously believe them, so you need to be able to support their claims otherwise you are making more unsubstantiated claims. The claim of the Admins was quoted for factual reference, and I made no claim regarding the validity of their claim other than my opinion (clearly stated as such). Stundie So for the record it is your reading comprehension which needs to be reviewed. You did not register the same day as pdoh...you registered the same day he was banned and registered a sock. Pdoh's registration date was about 1 month prior. Stundie You gathered evidence, but it doesn't fit your conclusion All evidence presented supports my conclusion, in my opinion. I leave it up to everyone to make up their own minds. Stundie Do not ask me to prove a negative, I didn't. Proving your identity is not proving a negative.
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Stundie	Jan 25 2008, 03:15 PM Post #56
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepant The claim of the Admins was quoted for factual reference, and I made no claim regarding the validity of their claim other than my opinion (clearly stated as such). But your opinion is not backed up by the evidence you presented at all. You are following the JREF groupthink instead of thinking for yourself. nicepants You did not register the same day as pdoh...you registered the same day he was banned and registered a sock. Pdoh's registration date was about 1 month prior. Oh dear Nicepants. You are desperately clutching at the straws in a desperate attempt to appear like you are winning this one, when you are loosing badly. Did you not say this...... nicepants 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. So you have told me on the 21/11/06, Pdoherty is banned, Pdoherty registers another user account, then I set up an account. Are you seriously this stupid that you would make another unsubstantiated counter claim about Pdohs registration being a 1 month prior when you have told me he created a sock account the same day I joined and this is the only reason which the JREF forum banned me. If you are arguing that Pdoh set up his original account 1 month prior?? Then I'll ask you what the fuck as pdoherty setting up a JREF account got to do with me?? lol If you claims were true, then you would have finally shot down the last peice of evidence which would support the JREFs Mods actions. Making your claims look even more of a joke. You are just proving my point nicepants, you are not a true skeptic, but your psuedo. Quote: All evidence presented supports my conclusion, in my opinion. I leave it up to everyone to make up their own minds. What evidence?? lol You have none left other than the I joined the same day pdoherty did and that some JREF members thought I was his sock. hahahaha!! Innocent until proven guilty....do you remember that!! lol Quote: I didn't. Proving your identity is not proving a negative. But you are asking me to prove a negative, you are asking me to prove I am not Pdoherty. I'm stundie, you have no evidence to suggest I am anyone else. So I do not need to prove anything, because I'm innocent until proven guilty......a concept which is obviously lost on you. lol Edited by Stundie, Jan 25 2008, 03:17 PM.
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nicepants	Jan 25 2008, 03:46 PM Post #57
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie nicepant The claim of the Admins was quoted for factual reference, and I made no claim regarding the validity of their claim other than my opinion (clearly stated as such). But your opinion is not backed up by the evidence you presented at all. Of course it is. Pdoh registered a sock when he was suspended. That sock got banned...later that same day you registered with an IP 40 miles from Pdoherty's. Stundie Are you seriously this stupid that you would make another unsubstantiated counter claim about Pdohs registration being a 1 month prior when you have told me he created a sock account the same day I joined and this is the only reason which the JREF forum banned me. You created an account the same day he created a sock, not the same day that pdoherty76 was registered. Stundie You have none left other than the I joined the same day pdoherty did and that some JREF members thought I was his sock. hahahaha!! False claim....AGAIN. You did not join the same day pdoherty76 did. Read for comprehension: nicepants 10/15/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers on JREF 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. Stundie Innocent until proven guilty....do you remember that!!So I do not need to prove anything, because I'm innocent until proven guilty......a concept which is obviously lost on you. lol The JREF forum is not a court of law. It is a private message board. Please refer to the JREF membership agreement. Stundie But you are asking me to prove a negative, you are asking me to prove I am not Pdoherty. I'm stundie, you have no evidence to suggest I am anyone else. Proving your identity is not proving a negative. Edited by nicepants, Jan 25 2008, 03:48 PM.
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Stundie	Jan 25 2008, 07:44 PM Post #58
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Of course it is. Pdoh registered a sock when he was suspended. That sock got banned...later that same day you registered with an IP 40 miles from Pdoherty's. Your opinion is not backed up and you are dabbling in the art of pseudoskepticism. You said earlier, that the evidence that I used which shows that my IP is 40 miles away from pdoherty, so I can't be Pdoherty proves nothing. Yet you are NOW using it as evidence to show that the JREF Forum used this info to ban me as a sock. So you are guilty of using the double standards in the application of criticism as outlined by Truzzi. Its NOT OK for me to use the IP evidence to prove I'm not Pdoherty, but it's OK to use it as evidence, to prove that a JREF Mod thought I was a sock. So lets apply some critical thinking skills as opposed to your pseudoskepticism which is running throughout this thread. So if we both use the IP evidence, then it's easy to establish (And using Occams...I know you JREFers love that one!) that my IP is not the same as Pdohertys and the JREF forum banned me, even though it's different. Therefore I am not him. The only other evidence you have to support your claims is that the JREF Groupthink suspected I was Pdoherty and the evidence all suggests I'm not him, but they banned me anyway because they forgot the rules of innocent until proven guilty. So you are wrong. Regardless of how you spin it!! You have no evidence for your claims and you are playing nothing more than apologetics for the JREF Forum mods, its quite sweet that you feel the need to defend their honour so vigorously! nicepants You created an account the same day he created a sock, not the same day that pdoherty76 was registered. Sorry I made the mistake of not saying that "Pdoherty registered one of his socks on the same day!" instead of "Pdoherty registered on the same day!"?? What a piss poor argument, I'm sorry I confused you and I forgot to mention a sock. However the point still stands. nicepants False claim....AGAIN. You did not join the same day pdoherty76 did. Read for comprehension: More proof of your love of semantics. hahahahahahahahaha!!! See above! Sorry I should have said "sock!" Sorry I confused you....lol nicepants The JREF forum is not a court of law. It is a private message board. Please refer to the JREF membership agreement. There is no kidding you Sherlock!! I honestly thought I could fool you into thinking that JREF was a court of law, but there is no fooling you Nicepants! Your switched right on. lol As for the JREF Membership, I didn't break any rules to my knowledge (As proven! I'm not Pdoh or a sock!) and I contacted the JREF Admin (As proven in my 1st few mails at the SLC forum). But my ban still stays even though the mods know I am not him (As proven with emails from Orphia Nay, Olivier and a thread at the JREF Forum about my banning at the JREF Forum.) Keep defending the your god gravy and the JREFers Nicepants and make out I'm the bad guy who did everything wrong, it's what groupthink expects of you and you are not disappointing. nicepants Proving your identity is not proving a negative. No it is not, but I do not need to prove to you or anyone else who I am. You are asking me to prove who I am in order to prove I am not Pdoherty (Or 1 of his socks!) when you or anyone else has no proof I'm Pdoherty in the 1st place. So why do I have to prove to you....or anyone else who I am?? Are you worried I could be a NWO agent?? hahahahahahaha!!!
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nicepants	Jan 26 2008, 01:26 AM Post #59
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	stundie You said earlier, that the evidence that I used which shows that my IP is 40 miles away from pdoherty, so I can't be Pdoherty proves nothing. Yet you are NOW using it as evidence to show that the JREF Forum used this info to ban me as a sock. So you are guilty of using the double standards in the application of criticism as outlined by Truzzi. Its NOT OK for me to use the IP evidence to prove I'm not Pdoherty, but it's OK to use it as evidence, to prove that a JREF Mod thought I was a sock. I never said anything about JREF using said information to prove that you're a sock, strawman. stundie my IP is not the same as Pdohertys and the JREF forum banned me, even though it's different. Therefore I am not him. A different IP address proves nothing. JREF doesn't claim to have banned you based on your IP. stundie So lets apply some critical thinking skills as opposed to your pseudoskepticism which is running throughout this thread. So if we both use the IP evidence, then it's easy to establish (And using Occams...I know you JREFers love that one!) that my IP is not the same as Pdohertys and the JREF forum banned me, even though it's different. I am not, nor have I asserted, that JREF banned you due to your IP address. stundie nicepants You created an account the same day he created a sock, not the same day that pdoherty76 was registered. Sorry I made the mistake of not saying that "Pdoherty registered one of his socks on the same day!" instead of "Pdoherty registered on the same day!"?? What a piss poor argument, I'm sorry I confused you and I forgot to mention a sock. However the point still stands. No, your point was that you registered on the same day as pdoherty, which is false. Again, you registering on the same day he was banned is not solid proof of anything, nor did I claim it was. stundie nicepants Proving your identity is not proving a negative. No it is not, but I do not need to prove to you or anyone else who I am. So you agree that proving your identity is not proving a negative, as you previously claimed. Thanks for at least admitting your mistake stundie You are asking me to prove who I am in order to prove I am not Pdoherty (Or 1 of his socks!) when you or anyone else has no proof I'm Pdoherty in the 1st place. JREF apparently does. Edited by nicepants, Jan 26 2008, 01:28 AM.
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Stundie	Jan 26 2008, 06:08 AM Post #60
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	Nicepants, I've got you dancing the fandango all over the place but you making yourself look even more foolish. nicepants I never said anything about JREF using said information to prove that you're a sock, strawman. The thing is you keep forgetting is that the JREF Mods have NO EVIDENCE I'M A SOCK. Nothing, zilch, nada! And yes you have said that I was reported by other JREF Members and subsequently banned based on the information they had. This is the one piece of information they had and used to ban me. You have said that having a different IP doesn't prove anything and of course in typical psuedosketpical style, you fail to notice that, this is one of the reasons that the JREF Forum used to justify my banning in the 1st place, it appears to be their strongest evidence too. Double standards again. nicepants A different IP address proves nothing. JREF doesn't claim to have banned you based on your IP. So please tell us oh wise one? What information did they use to ban me? Because you make all these claims, yet you seem unable to substantiate them. If JREF doesn't claim to have banned me based on my IP?? Then explain why I was banned. As far as I know, I share a different name, email, registration details, IP address etc etc...I'm not even the same age as Pdoherty. You did say that "The JREF moderators didn't ban you on suspicion, they had their own evidence." And here we are......another page in and you STILL have no evidence for their suspicions other than other members groupthink, yet you still support their actions. hahahahahahahaha!! nicepants No, your point was that you registered on the same day as pdoherty, which is false. The point was, I registered the same day as one of pdohertys socks according to the info you provided, but you picked it up as a false claim because I forgot to mention pdohertys sock. So you thought you would try and confuse the issue with your semantics. Which didn't work!! nicepants Again, you registering on the same day he was banned is not solid proof of anything, nor did I claim it was. Holy shit! You are too dumb Nicepants. You are saying that the only piece of evidence that the JREF Mods used ban me (i.e. The suspicion because I registered an account on the day a pdoherty SOCK was banned and re-registered or whatever he did?) is not solid proof of anything?? If it's not solid proof, (As you put it!) then the JREF Forum cannot justify why I was banned then as they now have no evidence, not even a solid piece. So therefore, you cannot justify their reasons for why they they banned me. Which makes a complete mockery of the last few pages in which you have argued and defended the JREF Mods actions. So if you are not part of the JREF Groupthink Nicepants, the question is why are you defending their actions so vigorously?? Do you not see the hole you are digging here?? hahahahahahahaha!!! nicepants So you agree that proving your identity is not proving a negative, as you previously claimed. Thanks for at least admitting your mistake Yes I agree, but what you fail to recognise is that you or the JREF mods are not asking to me prove who I am, you are asking me to prove who I am to confirm I am not Pdoherty, when you have essentially said they have no solid evidence that I am Pdoherty in the 1st place. That is proving a negative. So stop twisting those words nicepants in a desperate attempt to make yourself sound smarter than you actually are. nicepants JREF apparently does. Nicepants, you are now using doublethink and this thread highlights what a moron you truly are. If the JREF Forum had any info I was Pdoherty, they would have said, but they haven't have they? They suspected I was a sock, but you can't even tell me why they suspected it other than JREF Groupthink suspected it and the mods agreed but without any evidence. So according to you (Without any evidence!) the JREF Mods have information I am Pdoherty. Even though you or I haven't got a clue what that information is. Ever thought it doesn't exists?? Is this why you dance the fandango to the JREF tune Nicepants! Is this why you demand evidence of an inside job and then ignore it, but you do not demand any evidence for the mods actions and when presented evidence to suggest they were wrong, you ignore it because it doesn't fit in with your PRE-DETERMINED CONCLUSIONS!!! hahahahahahahaha!!! You also forget that Orphia Nay & Oliver tell me the JREF Mods know I am not Pdoherty and a thread was discussed over at the JREF Forum about it, yet you still tout your unsubstantiated that the JREF Mods apparently as info that I am him?? You have manage to make yourself look like a complete tool Nicepants for the world to see. Its been a pleasure owning you, tearing you a new one and laughing at your general stupidity Nicepants. Its time to give it up Nicepants and just accept I was right all along. I was banned because of nothing more than suspicion, I was embarrassing Gravy and the rest of the groupthinkers in this thread. Just like I've embarrassed you but you have no shame do you Nicepants?? Hence the reason you keep coming back for more. I suppose I shouldn't expect any apologies from you or for your unsubstantiated claims throughout this thread? But thanks for showing everyone that your are a bona fide pseudoskeptic and a worshipper of the JREF Forum. Edited by Stundie, Jan 26 2008, 06:16 AM.
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nicepants	Jan 26 2008, 01:58 PM Post #61
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	stundie The thing is you keep forgetting is that the JREF Mods have NO EVIDENCE I'M A SOCK. Nothing, zilch, nada! On what do you base this claim? Remember, they have more information than I presented here. stundie So please tell us oh wise one? What information did they use to ban me? Because you make all these claims, yet you seem unable to substantiate them. If JREF doesn't claim to have banned me based on my IP?? Then explain why I was banned. As I said before, I don't know, you can ask the mod who banned you. stundie The point was, I registered the same day as one of pdohertys socks according to the info you provided, but you picked it up as a false claim because I forgot to mention pdohertys sock. So you thought you would try and confuse the issue with your semantics. Pdoh vs pdoherty's sock....difference, not semantics, but nice try stundie You are saying that the only piece of evidence that the JREF Mods used ban me (i.e. The suspicion because I registered an account on the day a pdoherty SOCK was banned and re-registered or whatever he did?) is not solid proof of anything?? I never claimed that was the only evidence they used to ban you. On the contrary, they have other evidence that is not made public. stundie You also forget that Orphia Nay & Oliver tell me the JREF Mods know I am not Pdoherty and a thread was discussed over at the JREF Forum about it, Got a link to that thread?
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Stundie	Jan 27 2008, 04:13 PM Post #62
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	Nicepants, you are looking ridiculous in your defense of the JREFers. Its funny as fuck and you are showing your pseudo skills!! nicepants On what do you base this claim? Remember, they have more information than I presented here. I based it on the fact there is NO EVIDENCE and the fact I'm not Pdoherty!!! You keep saying that "they have more information", yet you have not provided any or even said what this information is. hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Keep bring forward these ridiculous claims that are totally unsubstantiated without any proof! As I said, you are displaying your usual psuedoskeptic characteristics. Come back and play when you have some evidence to back up your assertions, otherwise stop trolling. nicepants As I said before, I don't know, you can ask the mod who banned you. YOU SAID they didn't ban me on just IP information, so you obviously know what other information they have, otherwise how would you know they have this information. If you know they had more information, you would have presented it, but as usual it's nothing more than what you think. Unsubstantiated pseudosketpical tatics and more trolling. Nows the time to put up or shit up nicepants!! nicepants Pdoh vs pdoherty's sock....difference, not semantics, but nice try Yes there is a difference, but you knew what I was talking about, but decided to argue it because you an expert at arguing semantics. nicepants Got a link to that thread? Are you intentionally being stupid?? Read the thread, I've only posted it twice!! hahahahahahahaha!!! Edited by Stundie, Jan 27 2008, 04:16 PM.
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nicepants	Jan 28 2008, 10:51 AM Post #63
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie Nicepants, you are looking ridiculous in your defense of the JREFers. Its funny as fuck and you are showing your pseudo skills!! nicepants On what do you base this claim? Remember, they have more information than I presented here. I based it on the fact there is NO EVIDENCE and the fact I'm not Pdoherty!!! You keep saying that "they have more information", yet you have not provided any or even said what this information is. hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! The evidence they have has not been made public, which means I don't have access to it. Stundie YOU SAID they didn't ban me on just IP information, so you obviously know what other information they have, otherwise how would you know they have this information. Because I asked the mod who banned you, and was told that IP info wasn't the only thing that was used. But said moderator would not reveal to me what data was used. (They don't want idiots like pdoherty figuring out how to get around their methods) Stundie Yes there is a difference, but you knew what I was talking about, but decided to argue it because you an expert at arguing semantics. No, I assumed that you meant what you wrote. Stundie Are you intentionally being stupid?? Read the thread, I've only posted it twice!! hahahahahahahaha!!! nicepants Link to that thread, please Stundie You also forget that Orphia Nay & Oliver tell me the JREF Mods know I am not Pdoherty and a thread was discussed over at the JREF Forum about it, Not seeing the link. Could you post it again or direct me to the post where you included it? Edited by nicepants, Jan 28 2008, 10:51 AM.
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 01:32 PM Post #64
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants The evidence they have has not been made public, which means I don't have access to it. They have told you "They have evidence!" so that means it must be true hey Psuedoskeptic and critical thinker! lol So YOU have no evidence, but you still believe their claims. This is Nicepants Logic at work yet again! Quote: Because I asked the mod who banned you, and was told that IP info wasn't the only thing that was used. But said moderator would not reveal to me what data was used. (They don't want idiots like pdoherty figuring out how to get around their methods) Sounds like "National Security" reasons over at the JREF Forum! lol The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit and do you know why? Because I am not Pdoherty! Here is more evidence that I am not pdoherty when 1st communicated with himover at SLC Forum. So what other evidence do you think they have?? As I said, I do not share any of the same information as Pdoherty, yet you think the mods have something?? And you believe all of this without any proof. Just the mods word that its true you gullible psuedoskeptic! nicepants No, I assumed that you meant what you wrote. Its not my fault you can't follow the flow of the conversation and argue over semantics. Nicepants Not seeing the link. Could you post it again or direct me to the post where you included it? I do not think you read anything I post because you are just arguing with that voice in your head! Read post 42.
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nicepants	Jan 28 2008, 01:55 PM Post #65
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit I will not carry on a discussion with someone who resorts to personal attacks like this. If you feel you were unfairly banned from JREF, you can appeal it. If you choose not to do that then you can live with your ban.
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 04:43 PM Post #66
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 28 2008, 01:55 PM Stundie The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit I will not carry on a discussion with someone who resorts to personal attacks like this. If you feel you were unfairly banned from JREF, you can appeal it. If you choose not to do that then you can live with your ban. nicepants I will not carry on a discussion with someone who resorts to personal attacks like this. Well stop making your unsubstantiated claims about my banning and I'll stop the attacks! nicepants If you feel you were unfairly banned from JREF, you can appeal it. If you choose not to do that then you can live with your ban. You are repeating yourself and you obviously didn't read my last response. lol
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nicepants	Jan 28 2008, 04:52 PM Post #67
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie Jan 28 2008, 01:32 PM The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit Stundie stop making your unsubstantiated claims about my banning and I'll stop the attacks! That's not how it works here. FYI: "There will be absolutely no tolerance of personal attacks, name-calling ..." LCF Rules
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 05:04 PM Post #68
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 28 2008, 04:52 PM Stundie Jan 28 2008, 01:32 PM The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit Stundie stop making your unsubstantiated claims about my banning and I'll stop the attacks! That's not how it works here. FYI: "There will be absolutely no tolerance of personal attacks, name-calling ..." LCF Rules I'm afraid that is exactly how it works nicepants. You are making unsubstantiated claims.....now unless you can substantiate them which it appears you can't, then stop trolling. You make a claim, you had better back it up. If I make a claim, I'll back it up and although you think it's a personal attack, I'm pretty sure I can back my claims.
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nicepants	Jan 28 2008, 05:20 PM Post #69
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie Jan 28 2008, 05:04 PM nicepants Jan 28 2008, 04:52 PM Stundie Jan 28 2008, 01:32 PM The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit Stundie stop making your unsubstantiated claims about my banning and I'll stop the attacks! That's not how it works here. FYI: "There will be absolutely no tolerance of personal attacks, name-calling ..." LCF Rules I'm afraid that is exactly how it works nicepants. No, this is how it works here: You make a personal attack, you get banned. Any questions?
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Gideon524	Jan 28 2008, 05:30 PM Post #70
Oh, you didn't know? Posts: 512 Group: Admins Member #4 Joined: 12/21/07	nicepants Jan 28 2008, 05:20 PM Stundie Jan 28 2008, 05:04 PM nicepants Jan 28 2008, 04:52 PM Stundie Jan 28 2008, 01:32 PM The moderator as NO PROOF I am Pdoherty you dipshit Stundie stop making your unsubstantiated claims about my banning and I'll stop the attacks! That's not how it works here. FYI: "There will be absolutely no tolerance of personal attacks, name-calling ..." LCF Rules I'm afraid that is exactly how it works nicepants. No, this is how it works here: You make a personal attack, you get banned. Any questions? Nicepants, don't speak for us, thank you. Stundie, no need to feed into him. Watch the insults.



William Rea	Jan 28 2008, 06:00 PM Post #71
Posts: 319 Group: Members Member #149 Joined: 01/20/08	[/quote]No, this is how it works here: You make a personal attack, you get banned. Any questions?[/quote] My god the irony of a JREFer calling up personal attacks! I kept out of this one as much as possible but that just about clinched it for me. Stundie, you don't need to resort to the JREFesque name call I think you have make a good case regarding your banning without it. Edited by William Rea, Jan 28 2008, 06:02 PM.
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nicepants	Jan 28 2008, 06:16 PM Post #72
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	William Rea Jan 28 2008, 06:00 PM My god the irony of a JREFer calling up personal attacks! I kept out of this one as much as possible but that just about clinched it for me. Stundie, you don't need to resort to the JREFesque name call I think you have make a good case regarding your banning without it. Now he just needs to present his case to the JREF mods if he wants anything to be done about it.
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 07:38 PM Post #73
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	William Rea My god the irony of a JREFer calling up personal attacks! I kept out of this one as much as possible but that just about clinched it for me. Stundie, you don't need to resort to the JREFesque name call I think you have make a good case regarding your banning without it. Hi William, I know what you mean. I shouldn't resort to JREF type name calling tactics, but I'm just trying to make him understand that I am innocent. The problem is that nicepants can't be honest with himself and simply admit that the JREF Forum mods got it wrong. My banning appears to be based on a few members suspicions using some kind of E.S.P. no doubt! The irony here is that JREFers don't believe in ESP! lol We all know how JREFers believe in coincidences, yet Nicepants hardest hitting evidence is that I joined the day a sock of pdoherty joins. Everything I've told nicepants is true and to the best of my knowledge what happened. I appealed my ban at the time, he doubts it, I prove it, he doesn't admit that he is wrong, he just changes tactics. He says they had more evidence I was a sock, I ask him what evidence, he says and I'm paraphrasing here "I do not know but they told me they had more evidence but couldn't reveal it on the grounds of JREF National Security and that Pdoherty might circumvent it" This is hilarious considering I'm not him, I've never met him, neither do I know who he is or share any of the same details as him as far as I'm aware! So god knows what evidence they are supposed have?? Yet nicepants is still doubting that I'm not a sock! Which is very odd considering that I have communicated with nicepants on SLC for a period last year, I believe he has communicated and seen Pdohertys posts at the SLC forum, that Defaultxbedot who is the forum mod at SLC confirms and states that me and Pdoherty are not the same person and that pdoherty as apologised to me and even he confirms that I am not him. He hasn't even had the common decency to apologise for his false claims! Then he as the cheek to ask me to prove who I am, in order to prove that I'm not Pdoherty! He is essentially saying I am lying and I'm a liar without actually saying it! Then he acts all shocked and surprised when I call him a name! I think and I've been very patience with nicepants and answered all the points he as raised, yet he keeps ignoring most of the points I've made! He should be thankful that's all I called him. (Actually, I'm not even sure if Nicepants is a him or her, not that I care!) You are right though, the case is as open and shut as you can get. Nicepants is just on a trolling frenzy, I stopped posting over the SLC Forum back in July and he is making up for lost time. Cheers Stundie p.s. Was you once accused of being a sock of me either at the JREF or SLC Forum?? Edited by Stundie, Jan 28 2008, 07:39 PM.
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 07:54 PM Post #74
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	Gideon524 Jan 28 2008, 05:30 PM Nicepants, don't speak for us, thank you. Stundie, no need to feed into him. Watch the insults. Hi Gideon, I've seen Nicepants Logic at work. He doesn't do many personal attacks but he loves nothing more than arguing semantics, creating strawmen, any arguing a toss over any niggling point he can find like a troll. Just scroll through this thread and see him arguing a toss over a minuscule error I made because I said that "pdoherty" joined the same day as me, when it wasn't pdoherty, it was actually "one of pdohertys sock!" that joined that day. Apparently this is such big difference when you are so anally retentive, that have to point out something so trivial, even if it doesn't actually affect the point being made. This is what he enjoys and gets off on. You are so right about feeding him, but you can't blame him though Gideon. Nicepants is just hungry as I've not fed him over at the SLC forum for a while. lol Cheers Stundie Edited by Stundie, Jan 28 2008, 08:07 PM.
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Stundie	Jan 28 2008, 08:11 PM Post #75
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 28 2008, 06:16 PM Now he just needs to present his case to the JREF mods if he wants anything to be done about it. And this is your last feed nicepants. I've stated already stated this time and time before that I do not want anything doing about it and that there is no case for me to make because the JREF Mods do not have a case in the 1st place.
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