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thank you "jref"; Woke Me Up
Topic Started: Jan 20 2008, 06:57 AM (2,113 Views)
nicepants	Jan 23 2008, 05:19 PM Post #26
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie Jan 23 2008, 03:23 PM No warnings, no suspensions, nothing...I didn't know why I was banned until Orphia Nay contacted me at SLC Forum to tell me they had banned me for being a sock of pdoherty. I didn't even know who pdoherty was. He later joined the SLC Forum and apologised, but he's not to blame as he isn't the one who banned me. And for the last time, I do not know who banned me over at the JREF forum and neither do I care. As I've said, it was just an excuse to stop me from making your favourite debunker Gravy look silly, not that he needs any help. I've seen exactly how the debunkers and even the mods operate over there with their groupthink and as for JREF forum being (I'm going to refrain from laugh so hard here!") "a place to skepticism, critical thinking and debate etc etc in a friendly way". Nothing could be further from the truth. Its without a doubt the total opposite with members using the most blatant pseudo skeptisims, excuses, unsubstantiated claims and even lies to find out about 9/11. I did a little digging on your ban: You were banned for being a sock of Pdoherty76 on 11/29/2006. Timeline: 10/15/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers on JREF 10/15/2006 - 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 makes 571 posts to the Conspiracy theory forums at JREF. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. 11/22/2006 - 11/29/2006 - Stundie makes 145 posts, mostly in the conspiracy theories forum. 11/29/2006 - Stundie is banned for being a sock of pdoherty76. So, to piece it all together: - Pdoherty76 had already shown that he would attempt to create other accounts to get around his loss of access - Your account was created on the very same day, after the above actions took place - Your posting style and arguments were very similar to that of pdoherty76 - Your posting frequency was high (approx 20 posts/day) & similar to pdoherty76 - Multiple users suspected that you were a sock of pdoh - Moderators researched and made the same determination. My current observations: - You claim "I didn't even know who pdoherty was" seems suspect. - Your posting behavior on SLC was also very similar to that of Pdoherty - When pdoh was banned at SLC, you stopped posting for a period of time. Based on all of that, I'm not surprised that the moderators did what they did. (I would have done it too). Unfortunately, at JREF a ban is permanent (unless you can show that they had incorrect information when they banned you). If you would like to plead your case, you may do so to their moderators. If not, I guess you'll just have to stick to posting here & at SLC. The moderators at JREF do their best to apply the rules evenly. Even skeptics get warned, suspended, etc, which wouldn't happen if everyone there suffered from "groupthink" as you assert. And as far as gravy goes...trust me...you never made him look bad
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defaultdotxbe	Jan 23 2008, 05:50 PM Post #27
Posts: 91 Group: Members Member #49 Joined: 01/15/08	whats more pdoh only lives about 40 miles from stundie, and their IP addresses reflect this, so this is another indicator of sockiness over a period of time at SLC i was able to see their IPs and locations were definately distinct, so im sure they arent the same person (as ive said before, a major difference is that stundie has a job lol) as for JREF, stundie claims he has emailed the admins to request the ban be lifted, the admins say they never heard from him, so its his word against theirs, but im sure we already know who will believe who
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nolan ganwich	Jan 23 2008, 06:02 PM Post #28
Posts: 12 Group: Members Member #162 Joined: 01/21/08	defaultdotxbe Jan 23 2008, 05:50 PM whats more pdoh only lives about 40 miles from stundie, and their IP addresses reflect this, so this is another indicator of sockiness over a period of time at SLC i was able to see their IPs and locations were definately distinct, so im sure they arent the same person (as ive said before, a major difference is that stundie has a job lol) as for JREF, stundie claims he has emailed the admins to request the ban be lifted, the admins say they never heard from him, so its his word against theirs, but im sure we already know who will believe who source please. .
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NK-44	Jan 23 2008, 10:56 PM Post #29
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	Quote: You were banned for being a sock of Pdoherty76 on 11/29/2006. So he was banned for being a sock puppet. The question is not what he was being banned for, but if the reason he was being banned for holds water. Unless you can prove that he was a sock of Pdoherty, your 'debunking' is completely irrelevant. Worthless. Needless. Fantasy. Any other evidence besides your fantastic imagination?
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NK-44	Jan 23 2008, 10:59 PM Post #30
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	Quote: he admins say they never heard from him, so its his word against theirs, but im sure we already know who will believe who At least it's quiet sure whom I believe unless you JREFers provide any evidence for your accusations against Stundie. I'm not surprised that evidence isn't the thing JREFers care about.
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NK-44	Jan 23 2008, 11:12 PM Post #31
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	Hey nicepants, I've just registered that you registered on the same day others have here, too. I also registered a similiar amount of posts. Quote: Multiple users suspected that you were a sock of pdoh When I find others here suspecting you to be a sock, I hope you can understand that this is evidence that you're in fact a sock. At least to your standards.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 24 2008, 01:02 AM Post #32
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nicepants	Jan 24 2008, 09:43 AM Post #33
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	NK-44 Jan 23 2008, 10:56 PM Quote: You were banned for being a sock of Pdoherty76 on 11/29/2006. So he was banned for being a sock puppet. The question is not what he was being banned for, but if the reason he was being banned for holds water. Unless you can prove that he was a sock of Pdoherty, your 'debunking' is completely irrelevant. It wasn't my claim, it was the claim of the forum's admin staff: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2134387#post2134387
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nicepants	Jan 24 2008, 09:57 AM Post #34
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	NK-44 Jan 23 2008, 11:12 PM When I find others here suspecting you to be a sock, I hope you can understand that this is evidence that you're in fact a sock. At least to your standards. I never said suspicion was evidence, I was just listing what I know about the situation. JREF doesn't ban people based on suspicion alone.
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dbalsdon	Jan 24 2008, 12:43 PM Post #35
Posts: 24 Group: BANNED! Member #65 Joined: 01/16/08	Quote: At least it's quiet sure whom I believe unless you JREFers provide any evidence for your accusations against Stundie. You obviously ignored his previous post. Quote: Why have they not lifted the ban? Because that would be in direct confliction with their own rules and they would have to stop the Stundie Awards. Nah. It would probably just be renamed "Teh 53rd Annual twoofer idiot Awards" instead. Edited by dbalsdon, Jan 24 2008, 12:46 PM.
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NK-44	Jan 24 2008, 01:14 PM Post #36
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	nicepants Jan 24 2008, 09:43 AM NK-44 Jan 23 2008, 10:56 PM Quote: You were banned for being a sock of Pdoherty76 on 11/29/2006. So he was banned for being a sock puppet. The question is not what he was being banned for, but if the reason he was being banned for holds water. Unless you can prove that he was a sock of Pdoherty, your 'debunking' is completely irrelevant. It wasn't my claim, it was the claim of the forum's admin staff: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2134387#post2134387 Oh, and that's why you distanced yourself in your post from their claims.
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nicepants	Jan 24 2008, 02:41 PM Post #37
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	NK-44 Jan 24 2008, 01:14 PM Oh, and that's why you distanced yourself in your post from their claims. No. You wanted me to prove that he was a sock. I never claimed he was, the mods did. I believe the JREF mods were right, based on the evidence I documented, but that's my opinion, you're free to have your own.
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NK-44	Jan 24 2008, 02:55 PM Post #38
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	nicepants Jan 24 2008, 02:41 PM NK-44 Jan 24 2008, 01:14 PM Oh, and that's why you distanced yourself in your post from their claims. No. You wanted me to prove that he was a sock. I never claimed he was, the mods did. I believe the JREF mods were right, based on the evidence I documented, but that's my opinion, you're free to have your own.
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Roxdog	Jan 24 2008, 03:12 PM Post #39
Posts: 597 Group: Members Member #80 Joined: 01/16/08	jughead Jan 20 2008, 11:24 PM William Rea Jan 20 2008, 06:58 PM Which other forums and who has been banned on them for "just asking questions". ALL truth forums do! Not true. Over at Jack Blood's forum the only people that have been banned are people who threaten others (Troy in W. WA) and people who request it.
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NK-44	Jan 24 2008, 04:01 PM Post #40
Posts: 160 Group: Members Member #16 Joined: 01/14/08	Quote: 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. So when for example the fire alarm in WTC 7 was put on test mode that day, then it must be a coincidence. But when two people register the same day on a forum, it must be a false-flag operation. You JREFers are so damn clever
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nicepants	Jan 24 2008, 04:08 PM Post #41
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	NK-44 Jan 24 2008, 04:01 PM Quote: 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. So when for example the fire alarm in WTC 7 was put on test mode that day, then it must be a coincidence. But when two people register the same day on a forum, it must be a false-flag operation. You JREFers are so damn clever I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. The mods on the forum have a lot more information available to them than the facts I posted. You don't get banned from JREF based on a coincidence, Pdoherty probably just used the same IP to register one of his sock puppet accounts. Edited by nicepants, Jan 24 2008, 04:10 PM.
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Stundie	Jan 24 2008, 04:58 PM Post #42
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 23 2008, 05:19 PM No warnings, no suspensions, nothing...I didn't know why I was banned until Orphia Nay contacted me at SLC Forum to tell me they had banned me for being a sock of pdoherty. I didn't even know who pdoherty was. He later joined the SLC Forum and apologised, but he's not to blame as he isn't the one who banned me. I did a little digging on your ban: You were banned for being a sock of Pdoherty76 on 11/29/2006. Timeline: 10/15/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers on JREF 10/15/2006 - 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 makes 571 posts to the Conspiracy theory forums at JREF. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 was suspended on for multiple breaches of his membership agreement. 11/21/2006 - Pdoherty76 registers another user account in an attempt to circumvent his suspension, resulting in the immediate ban of both accounts. 11/21/2006 - Stundie registers an account on the JREF forums. 11/22/2006 - 11/29/2006 - Stundie makes 145 posts, mostly in the conspiracy theories forum. 11/29/2006 - Stundie is banned for being a sock of pdoherty76. So, to piece it all together: - Pdoherty76 had already shown that he would attempt to create other accounts to get around his loss of access - Your account was created on the very same day, after the above actions took place - Your posting style and arguments were very similar to that of pdoherty76 - Your posting frequency was high (approx 20 posts/day) & similar to pdoherty76 - Multiple users suspected that you were a sock of pdoh - Moderators researched and made the same determination. My current observations: - You claim "I didn't even know who pdoherty was" seems suspect. - Your posting behavior on SLC was also very similar to that of Pdoherty - When pdoh was banned at SLC, you stopped posting for a period of time. Based on all of that, I'm not surprised that the moderators did what they did. (I would have done it too). Unfortunately, at JREF a ban is permanent (unless you can show that they had incorrect information when they banned you). If you would like to plead your case, you may do so to their moderators. If not, I guess you'll just have to stick to posting here & at SLC. The moderators at JREF do their best to apply the rules evenly. Even skeptics get warned, suspended, etc, which wouldn't happen if everyone there suffered from "groupthink" as you assert. And as far as gravy goes...trust me...you never made him look bad I’ve done some digging myself to shut you up once and for all nicepants! Although of course, we all know that won’t happen because you love being embarrassed by me. So lets look at my 1st few posts over at the SLC Forum. These posts happened 1 day after my banning at the JREF Forum and all the posts are dated the same day. Here is my 1st post on the 30/11/06 at the SLC Forum. stundie at SLC Forum ...... Thought I'd join this forum seeing as I've been banned from the James Randi Forum. I'm a big fan of John Randi and the skeptics movement as I believe there is no such thing as magic, just magicians and fools! The thing is, I'm not sure what I was banned for, although I don't think it helped because I was exposing a lot of lies that were being perpetrated by the people on the forum. I've used the internet for years, but I have only just got into posting on forums. I've only ever been one other forum before the Randi forum. I'm not what you would consider a conspiracy theorist, even though I was quickly labelled one by the Randi forum, because I questioned them.... So I joined the SLC forum because I was banned at the JREF Forum and I do not know why?? If you read further on, I also explain I was new to the world of forums. So defaultdotxbe finds out in the next post why I was banned. defaultdotxbe at SLC Forum Lisa Simpson: stundie has been banned as a sock puppet of pdoherty, etc. hardly banned fo no reason there So there you go, I have no idea and defaultdotxbe tells me why I am banned, so even he knows before I do as to why I was banned. So of course, I’m confused as I’ve never heard of Pdoherty (Other than the Heroin loving singer!) and I thought being a sock puppet of someone meant using a famous name as your username is a banning offence. So I respond. stundie Banned for being a sock puppetry of pdoherty. I'm not sure what you are talking about here? Who is Pdoherty? As in Pete Doherty...That muppet who goes out with kate Moss. When was it an banning offence to be a sock puppet of anyone?? I say I'm not sure what default/lisa is saying about being a sock puppet. So I question who is pdoherty, as they only one I had heard of was the singer. I then question being banned for being a name of a famous singer (At least in the UK!) because I didn’t know what a sock puppet was? Then defaultdotxbe states the following.... defaultdotxbe at SLC Forum if you honestly were banned in error you can contact an admin, but i doubt they would ban anyone unless they were sure So even defaultdotxbe recognises that I may have been banned in error, yet you even fail to admit this. He then says they wouldn't ban be unless they were sure. So I say in the very next post.http://screwloosechange.xbehome.com/index.php?showtopic=124&view=findpost&p=5385 stundie at SLC Forum I've sent a mail, but not received a reply yet. Don't think I broke any rules and if I did, I'd love to know what they are? See here only a day after my banning, I said I sent them a mail. Infact, I sent them a few mails but I never heard from them, otherwise we could have cleared this their confusion and I wouldn’t be a banned member any more would I?? Of course, you will label me as a liar because that’s how pseudoskeptics work. Other evidence....which is in my inbox at the SLC Forum. On 26th December 2006 Orphia Nay sends me an email at the SLC forum stating that there as been a thread started over at the JREF forum and she suggest I contact Darat. Here is the link for that thread: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=71216 I can’t view it as you have to sign in and I’m banned, so god knows what it says. Then Oliver sent me a PM at the SLC forum on the 9th Feb which he states that “In the meantime they (Admin at the JREF Forum) know that they made a mistake by confuse you with a puppet of PDoherty.” So there you have it, I am not Pdoherty, I have never been him and even Pdoherty says I am not him. All this happened on the suspicions of the JREF groupthink mentality. Nothing more, nothing less. So carry on with your defence of the JREF Forum and your silly accusations, as this is the behaviour to be expected of a so called debunker. Instead of facing the facts that I was banned for no reasons other than JREF Groupthink, you have to spin around to make out they have done nothing wrong, when they have found me guilty and banned without proof. How can I show the JREF forum, they had incorrect information when they banned me? What a dumb question! How do I know what info they had on me other than the ones I supplied which are all correct? What do they want? Passport, blood & urine samples or what about Puts his stereo-typical german nazi voice! zee paperzs and ID. lol I could plead my case, but I haven't done anything wrong, so there is no case for me to plead. If they think I'm pdoherty, then fine, I'm not going to waste my time trying to prove to them otherwise. Yes debunkers do get warned sometimes, but nowhere near as often as a "twoofer" will. I believe only last week Greg Ulrich pointed this out to the JREF moderators in a thread which was nothing more than mocking Heiwa. And as for making Gravy look bad....Here is the funniest one. Gravy aka MurdervillagE at the SLC Forum especially comes over to the SLC forum to post this and calls me a liar. Only for him to run off when I challenged him here. Gravy ignores my challenge and calls me a liar again and expects an apology and retraction. Pdoherty (In reality it's stundie! lol....Just joking!) posts the link because I can't search the forum as I'm BANNED posts the link. So I go through were me and Gravy were in regards to our discussion before I was banned and highlight his lies. Then what happens, Gravy disappears quicker than he appeared and made himself look stupid in the process. In that last post I said "Watch the trolls flood this forum in defence of their god Gravy about how he didn't lie, even though he has......and we'll await too see if Gravy is a man....or a mouse!! hahahahaha!" Gravy never ever returned to that thread once I pointed out his lies and I was right, the trolls came flooding in alright!! lol It just backs up my thoughts, on my last post at the JREF Forum, I'm expecting Gravy to back up his ridiculous claims to me that Mineta was mistaken, then I'm banned.....for supposedly being a sock! Nice escape for Gravy methinks!! I hadn't even hit him with the hardest evidence which would have shown you he is a liar. He failed.....Just like you did Nicepants.....Again. :p
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Stundie	Jan 24 2008, 04:59 PM Post #43
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	NK-44 Jan 23 2008, 10:59 PM Quote: he admins say they never heard from him, so its his word against theirs, but im sure we already know who will believe who At least it's quiet sure whom I believe unless you JREFers provide any evidence for your accusations against Stundie. I'm not surprised that evidence isn't the thing JREFers care about. Couldn't have put it better myself NK-44.
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Stundie	Jan 24 2008, 05:20 PM Post #44
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	defaultdotxbe Jan 23 2008, 05:50 PM whats more pdoh only lives about 40 miles from stundie, and their IP addresses reflect this, so this is another indicator of sockiness over a period of time at SLC i was able to see their IPs and locations were definately distinct, so im sure they arent the same person (as ive said before, a major difference is that stundie has a job lol) as for JREF, stundie claims he has emailed the admins to request the ban be lifted, the admins say they never heard from him, so its his word against theirs, but im sure we already know who will believe who This is an hilarious defence Defaultdotxbe!! I do not live 40 miles away from Pdoh, I may have been working that distance away from him, but again you appear to know more than me about it. Now according to Nicepants info, Pdoh creates an account at an IP on the very same day I create an account. From 40 miles away according to you?? So am I to think the JREF mods thought that Pdoh created a sock account, then went 40 miles away to create another one! i.e. Mine (Stundie!) Excuse me a moment!...........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 40 miles away in America may not be many miles or in the same location with the country being so big, but in the UK, 40 miles is some distance and if someone is 40 miles away there locations are not "Distinct" as you put it, they are totally different locations. I would be pretty sure that I live and work much closer to other JREF UK members than I do to Pdoherty. The admins say they never got my mail, maybe they didn't, maybe it went into the junk filters but I can assure you I sent them one as I was enjoying exposing Gravy as a liar. Personally I think they got it, but the onesided mods wanted to protect their debunking god Gravy. The funniest thing is you think I would lie about it, even though you told me to contact them the day I joined the SLC forum and I told you I already had but I hadn't heard from them. But again, rather than face the facts, you do your best to make me out to be a liar, when all you are doing is lying to yourself.
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Stundie	Jan 24 2008, 05:25 PM Post #45
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 24 2008, 04:08 PM I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. The mods on the forum have a lot more information available to them than the facts I posted. You don't get banned from JREF based on a coincidence, Pdoherty probably just used the same IP to register one of his sock puppet accounts. Yes you do suggest the information you posted is proof that I was banned for being a sock on the basis I created an account on the same day as Pdoherty. The mods do have more info available to them and you will see nothing which would suggest I'm pdoherty....Not a single thing! And yes you do get banned from JREF on a coincidence, you have just posted evidence to suggest this. However, how Pdoherty is supposed to have used the same IP as me to register one is accounts is an hilarious excuse, but not even possible and again, you are speculating....without any proof!! hahahahahahahaha!! I think you've been busy levelling up on your doublethink powers since the last time we communicated Nicepants!
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jan 24 2008, 05:37 PM Post #46
Posts: 1,939 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	nicepants Jan 24 2008, 02:41 PM NK-44 Jan 24 2008, 01:14 PM Oh, and that's why you distanced yourself in your post from their claims. No. You wanted me to prove that he was a sock. I never claimed he was, the mods did. I believe the JREF mods were right, based on the evidence I documented, but that's my opinion, you're free to have your own. "The evidence you documented" is enough to convince you of that...........but this isn't enough to make you suspicious about whether or not you were told the whole truth about 9/11......... Yep, I know all I need to know about you now. Thanks! Please go back to JREF. I don't think members here wish to argue yesterdays news with you. The majority of the members believe and KNOW 9/11 was an inside job and can never convince you otherwise. I hope this forum becomes an open exchange of dialog and ideals between similar minded people in hopes for all to achieve a greater understanding of what took place that day. Such won't happen though if we all get bogged down arguing with a bunch of JREF Nationalists, aka "Randi's Kids".
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nicepants	Jan 24 2008, 05:50 PM Post #47
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie nicepants Jan 24 2008, 04:08 PM I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. The mods on the forum have a lot more information available to them than the facts I posted. You don't get banned from JREF based on a coincidence, Pdoherty probably just used the same IP to register one of his sock puppet accounts. Yes you do suggest the information you posted is proof that I was banned for being a sock on the basis I created an account on the same day as Pdoherty. Read again for comprehension: nicepants I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. If you have an issue with your ban and you want something done about it, you can take it up with the mods at JREF. Continuing to complain here won't change anything.
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Stundie	Jan 24 2008, 06:14 PM Post #48
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 24 2008, 05:50 PM Stundie nicepants Jan 24 2008, 04:08 PM I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. The mods on the forum have a lot more information available to them than the facts I posted. You don't get banned from JREF based on a coincidence, Pdoherty probably just used the same IP to register one of his sock puppet accounts. Yes you do suggest the information you posted is proof that I was banned for being a sock on the basis I created an account on the same day as Pdoherty. Read again for comprehension: nicepants I don't suggest that the information I posted is proof of anything, people can make their own conclusions. If you have an issue with your ban and you want something done about it, you can take it up with the mods at JREF. Continuing to complain here won't change anything. Why don't you admit that your conclusion is wrong and admit that you are wrong hey Nicepants!! People can make their own conclusions and you have just highlighted for everyone to see that you posted evidence to support your beloved JREF mods. As I said many a times before, I do not have any issues with my banning whatsoever, The only reason I went on about here is because you seem to think I was lying about it because according to you "JREF Mods do not ban on suspicion alone" when I am proof they do. This posts just proves my point about JREFers, it highlights my suspicions about the groupthink mentality that JREFers suffer from, which seems to have a grip on you too Nicepants. If I wanted something done about it, it would have been done a long time ago, as I said, the mods know I'm not Pdoh and as I said, they won't remove the ban because of the Stundie Awards. I'm glad you debonkers have the Stundie Awards, because all it does is confirm how much pseudoskepticism you do in the name of scepticism and I think it's quite cute how you guys use it as a bonding session for your groupthink antics. Very intellectual! hahahahahahaha!! I'm not complaining either, trust me when I say I seriously have a good laugh at you all, at your expense too. Edited by Stundie, Jan 24 2008, 06:15 PM.
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nicepants	Jan 25 2008, 09:49 AM Post #49
Posts: 303 Group: BANNED! Member #59 Joined: 01/15/08	Stundie Jan 24 2008, 06:14 PM Why don't you admit that your conclusion is wrong and admit that you are wrong hey Nicepants!! As I said many a times before, I do not have any issues with my banning whatsoever, The only reason I went on about here is because you seem to think I was lying about it because according to you "JREF Mods do not ban on suspicion alone" when I am proof they do. I may be right, I may be wrong, but so far have seen no proof that my belief is wrong. The JREF moderators didn't ban you on suspicion, they had their own evidence. Remember that they did not make their decision based solely on the facts that I presented above. Edited by nicepants, Jan 25 2008, 09:50 AM.
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Stundie	Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM Post #50
Posts: 885 Group: Members Member #78 Joined: 01/16/08	nicepants Jan 25 2008, 09:49 AM nicepants I may be right, I may be wrong, but so far have seen no proof that my belief is wrong. Talk about selective ignorance!! lol I have posted the relevant sections from emails from both Oliver, Orphia Nay and highlighted a link from the JREF forum in which the JREFers talk about my banning, in other words the admins are aware of this. All of this you have willfully ignored to hold on to your belief and if this isn't evidence of JREF groupthink, then I do not know what its. Of course, you will deny this because you are a pseudo-skeptic. (See my signature!) nicepants The JREF moderators didn't ban you on suspicion, they had their own evidence. What other evidence?? You keep spouting on about it and speculating, yet provide none whatsoever! Again Nicepants, you are being intellectually dishonest by making unsubstantiated counter claims. Just confirms you pseudo skills. nicepants Remember that they did not make their decision based solely on the facts that I presented above. Please present the OTHER FACTS which made them come to their decision? Why don't you just face it, you have nothing other than speculation as to why I am banned. All you are doing is highlighting how intellectually dishonesty and being a total coward who can't admit that they are wrong. Nicepants, if you can't be honest with yourself, how the hell can you be honest on a forum??
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