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Todd Beamer cell phone log; Verizon records
Topic Started: Jul 29 2008, 05:37 PM (589 Views)
honway	Jul 29 2008, 05:37 PM Post #1
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-29-FBI-phone-records.pdf Document provided by INTELWIRE. Please credit INTELWIRE.COM when posting. Edited by honway, Jul 29 2008, 05:38 PM.
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honway	Jul 29 2008, 05:40 PM Post #2
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/#zmblackwater Todd Beamer's Cell Phone A couple of people have e-mailed me now about the item linked below, so I thought I would just save us all some time and briefly post my thoughts about the issues it raises. This 9/29/2001 FBI lead sheet details phone calls made in relation to the cell phone of Todd Beamer, a passenger on United 93, the airplane hijacked on September 11 that crashed in Pennsylvania. Beamer is famously remembered for reporting that the passengers were planning to storm the cockpit and for issuing the call to that action: "Let's roll." Todd Beamer cell phone log The document is confusing. At first glance it appears to list calls that were made by Beamer using the cell phone. What raised questions with my correspondents is the fact that the log shows almost 20 calls after United 93 crashed. All of the calls related to a number in Woodbridge, NJ, and all of them are listed as exactly one minute (suggesting the call was not completed). My best guess here is that the log represents calls to Beamer's cell, in which case the post-crash calls might have been someone with the phone company or the government pinging to locate the phone in the wreckage, or frantic calls from a friend or family member who was trying to ascertain whether Beamer had been on the flight. The latter theory might make more sense, since the calls start pretty early. More confusingly, there is a call shortly before the flight took off listed as an "incoming call" with the "number called" being the same number that the document identifies as Beamer's cell phone. (This could be a call to listen to voicemail, or a call to voicemail paired with using the "reply to message" function that most voicemail offers.) Even if you're of a conspiratorial bent on this issue (which I am not), it's difficult to believe the FBI would release a document showing that Beamer's cell phone was in use after the crash. The 9/11 Commission cites the document but doesn't comment on the post-crash entries. I'm open to hearing an explanation. If you have actual and specific knowledge of how to read this document, feel free to drop me a line and I'll update this posting. If you're just guessing, well, you're welcome to speculate and/or investigate-and-publish away, but this post represents the sum total of my insight on the document at this time, and I don't currently have a lot of time to devote to this (either in terms of investigating further or debating it via e-mail). If I get better information, I will post it here. Happy hunting... Labels: 9-11, Todd-Beamer, United-93 Posted by J.M. Berger \| Permalink
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honway	Jul 29 2008, 05:51 PM Post #3
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	JFK, Could you please post a graphic from the Moussaoui prosecution exhibits showing the Todd Beamer telephone calls? Thanks. Edited by honway, Jul 29 2008, 05:52 PM.
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honway	Jul 29 2008, 06:01 PM Post #4
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=lisa_beamer_1 September 14, 2001: Lisa Beamer First Informed of Husband’s Phone Call From Flight 93 Edit event Lisa Beamer. Since 9/11, Lisa Beamer—whose husband Todd Beamer died on Flight 93—has reportedly had one “nagging question.” According to Newsweek, she’d wondered, “Why had her husband, a man so attached to his cell phone that [she] had to confiscate it when they went on vacation, not called her from the plane? Other passengers had called home from Flight 93 to say goodbye and talk to their loved ones. Why not Todd?” [Newsweek, 12/3/2001] This evening, she receives a call from her family liaison with United Airlines, informing her that the FBI has released information that Todd made a call from the flight: Using a GTE Airfone, he’d spoken to an operator in the Chicago area. The FBI had been keeping the information private until it reviewed the material. The liaison reads her a summary of the call written by Lisa Jefferson, the GTE supervisor with whom Todd had spoken (see 9:45 a.m.-9:58 a.m. September 11, 2001). [Beamer and Abraham, 2002, pp. 185-186] During the call, Jefferson had asked Todd if he’d wanted to be connected to his wife. However, as Jefferson later recalls, he’d “said no, that he did not want to upset her as they were expecting their third child in January.” [Orlando Sentinel, 9/5/2002] Instead, he’d asked Jefferson to contact his family if he didn’t “make it out of this.” [Longman, 2002, pp. 200] In her book, published in 2002, Lisa Beamer writes that she was “so glad he didn’t” contact her from the plane, because, “Had I learned about Todd’s circumstances by hearing his voice from the plane, I no doubt would have lost it.” While Lisa Beamer only learns of her husband’s call from Flight 93 on this day, the CEO of the company for which he’d worked appears to have been aware of its details a day earlier (see September 13, 2001). [Beamer and Abraham, 2002, pp. 184-185 and 201-202]
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honway	Jul 29 2008, 06:10 PM Post #5
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Beamer Todd Morgan Beamer (November 24, 1968 – September 11, 2001) was a passenger aboard United Airlines Flight 93 and a hero of the September 11, 2001 attacks. Beamer attended Los Gatos High School, Wheaton Academy, DePaul University, California State University, Fresno and Wheaton College. In September 2001, he was an account manager for Oracle and resided in Cranbury, New Jersey, with his wife, Lisa Beamer, and two sons, David and Drew. His daughter, Morgan Kay, was born January 9, 2002, four months after Beamer's death. After United 93 was hijacked, Beamer and other passengers communicated with people on the ground via in-plane and cell phones, and learned that the World Trade Center had been attacked using hijacked airplanes. Beamer tried to place a credit card call through a phone located on the back of a plane seat but was routed to a customer-service representative instead, who passed him on to GTE supervisor Lisa Jefferson. Beamer reported that one passenger was killed and, later, that a flight attendant had told him the pilot and co-pilot had been forced from the cockpit and may have been wounded. He was also on the phone when the plane made its turn in a southeasterly direction, a move that had him briefly panicking. Later, he told the operator that some of the plane's passengers were planning to "jump on" the hijackers. According to Jefferson, Beamer's last audible words were "Are you guys ready? Let's roll."[1] Beamer's phrase "Let's roll" was widely cited and later became a battle cry for those fighting Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.[2] At least three facilities have been named for Beamer: a post office in Cranbury, New Jersey, Todd Beamer High School in Federal Way, Washington, and the Todd M. Beamer Student Center at Wheaton College. Beamer was posthumously awarded with the Arthur Ashe Courage Award in 2002.
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JFK	Jul 29 2008, 06:31 PM Post #6
Posts: 4,406 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Sorry about the delay honway, I was "canning" it for another forum... here is that portion. Todd Beamer Anomolies. From http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/flights/P200055.html FBI phone log courtesy of INTELWIRE.com - http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2001-09-29-FBI-phone-records.pdf Edited by JFK, Jul 29 2008, 06:34 PM.
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honway	Jul 29 2008, 06:37 PM Post #7
Posts: 37 Group: Members Member #279 Joined: 02/06/08	JFK, Thanks for the additional information and quick response.
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JFK	Jul 29 2008, 06:39 PM Post #8
Posts: 4,406 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	honway Jul 29 2008, 06:37 PM JFK, Thanks for the additional information and quick response. You are welcome.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Jul 29 2008, 08:09 PM Post #9
Posts: 2,091 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	so todd beamer's cell phone continued making phone calls until 8:00PMEST is what i've gathered...... what i don't get is if the line was "left open" on the last call it doesn't make sense because the call originated from the plane and should reflect the amount of time the originating call was connected not how long the recipient waited before hanging up...... am i missing something there?
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