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Computer Security Issues; My ISP is spying?
Topic Started: Jan 18 2008, 06:00 AM (389 Views)
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I only use Office95. Winword 6 was what Winword 1 should have been. I tried out Office 97 and found no reason to clog my machine with it so I have no interest in later versions.

I also use eMule to collect video material that others have recorded from TV that is unlikely ever to be released on DVD because the target audience is too small, or the TV execs consider too "stale" to be re-aired.

My nephew and I had an argument about Office 2003. He wanted it, and I said you can wait until I pick one up on eBay.

I was talking to a tech from my ISP today about the ADSL dropping out in wet weather, and he informed me that I was running a P2P program and had accessed Microsoft Office 2003, to which I responded "I will have to speak to my nephew about that, he's not here at the moment." He's spending eight days with his grandmother.

I went and checked his computer and, sure enough, I found an Office 2003 download. and as a result I have been "officially warned" regarding piracy, even if I do have a machine that is licensed to have it installed, but no disc--an HP P4 laptop with XP Pro 2. (You know, sell the hardware, and send the software to the tip.)

Now the real question is this: If I'm sharing 9/11 related files which are not the issue of copyright, but could attract attention under our bizarre and neo-nazi anti-terror legislation which is so Draconian that saying "I don't like what the government is doing about ..," can have me arrested for Sedition, what file-share programs are out there that are encrypted to prevent such evesdropping?

Remember when we all did that huge bit-torrent and other assorted download/shares of the WTC floor plans? Of course, we all know that we are actually fighting governmental terrorism, but what happens to me if our crazy Australian government decides that such material is "terror-related" and obliges my ISP to check for that content? Again, what file sharing exists that is sufficiently encrypted to absolve my ISP of any liability in relation to my allegedly "seditious activity"?
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Use programs like Hide IP.
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Jan 18 2008, 06:38 AM
Use programs like Hide IP.
All that does is make me anonymous elsewhere.

It does not stop the Intercept that I now know exists on my data-stream. We need a share-ware protocol that is self-encrypting.

I guess I have to eat crow over my comments about them having too much data to sift.

"How would you like that crow, Sir? Boiled? Fried? Or just greased around the apertures?"
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im a little confused as to exactly what you mean, but check here:
http://www.slyck.com/

they are always on top of all the p2p related news. and post here:
http://www.slyck.com/forums/index.php

for a possible answer. good luck!
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Having worked for several ISPs it seems unlikely they would be monitoring your traffic in this manner. What usually happens is that IP addresses sharing files such as Office are logged by anti piracy groups and a report is forwarded on to your ISP.

This may not be entirely correct depending on what ISP you use but you should ensure that even if your nephew has downloaded an illegal copy, that it's not being shared. Downloading a copy is unlikely to result in prosecution or any serious legal action. Sharing a copy is almost guaranteed to result in some sort of warning or notice at the minimum.
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Jan 18 2008, 11:47 AM
Having worked for several ISPs it seems unlikely they would be monitoring your traffic in this manner. What usually happens is that IP addresses sharing files such as Office are logged by anti piracy groups and a report is forwarded on to your ISP.

This may not be entirely correct depending on what ISP you use but you should ensure that even if your nephew has downloaded an illegal copy, that it's not being shared. Downloading a copy is unlikely to result in prosecution or any serious legal action. Sharing a copy is almost guaranteed to result in some sort of warning or notice at the minimum.
That's the whole problem. While you're downloading, the parts of the file that you already have can be uploaded to someone else, and if you block those uploads, the system considers you a nonn-sharer and assigns a lower priority than other users.

Given that I found a "crack" folder included tells me that it wasn't Microsoft distributing as bait.
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I contacted my ISP to ask if there were any other files that I should be deleting from my nephew's computer, and gained an admission that the detection was internal. So either they are scanning all users for the word "Microsoft", or MS have themselves embeded a specific sequence in one of their files and used their juggernaut power to force ISPs to be on alert for that sequence.
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buy an ak-47

if they come


your ready
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Jan 19 2008, 01:11 AM
buy an ak-47

if they come


your ready
Honest people don't have access to weapons like that in Australia.


"I want you to imagine that this is a deadly kill-o-zap ray gun that I have pointed at you."

"That is a deadly kill-o-zap ray gun that you have pointed at us, sir."

"Well I wouldn't want to overtax your imagination."
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