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| The Mossad and the Truck Bombs of 9/11 | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 14 2008, 11:46 PM (4,008 Views) | |
| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 14 2008, 11:46 PM Post #1 |
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| Deleted User | Jan 15 2008, 04:48 PM Post #2 |
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Interesting, serious, sensitive stuff, TC.... I'd like to know why anyone would paint a mural like that to drive through New York with, intending to blow it all up anyway... but the mural got them pulled over. I've heard of this around and am not clear on some points 1) WAS the truck blown up? 2) What happened with the arrested guys? Also, the high-five guys - 1) Did I miss any direct connection drawn or is this a separate case as far as we know? 2) What line of work were these guys officially in? Were they art students? IF we find Israeli/Mossad involvement in peripheral things like this, and in tracking the hijackers previously, etc. it does not necessarily mean something like Mossad did 9/11. Rather, it opens a range of possibilities, all pretty disturbing. Good discussion starter. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 15 2008, 04:55 PM Post #3 |
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Oh and BTW in that video, the scenes about the dancing high five guys, those interviews, were done by Marc Levin for his doc 'Protocols of Zion.' It's an interesting film, and I thought his treatment of that case was actually pretty fair, even tho he was seeling to discredit cartoon anti-semitism claiming Israel did 9/11 and tackling other related Jooos-did-wahtever theories. (I can see at least some of both sides in this debate BTW). The film's explanation for the 4,000 Jews who didn't go to work at the WTC is pretty good - it seems to be based on a mis-reporting of the same number of people being sought by family members, but unaccounted for at the time. Or something like that. It has a perfectly reasonable explanation anyway, it seems. I never thought that CT made sense anyway. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 15 2008, 08:37 PM Post #4 |
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1) From the NYC emergency channel 30 audio it definitely appears the van exploded. It's stated multiple times. 2) The 2 men arrested got mixed in the massive amounts of people picked up for immigration shortly following 9/11. The Israeli's arrested on 9/11 led to the arrests of over 60 more Israeli's some of whom turned out to be Mossad with explosives expertise according. Eventually they would all be sent back to their homelands through the help of Chertoff.
1) Other than their being Israeli citizens 3 of them appeared on an Israeli TV show acknowledging they had advanced knowledge when they said their purpose was to document the event. Residents looked out of their windows shortly after the 1st impact and saw them in place at that time celebrating. From what I gathered they hung around until a few minutes after the 2nd impact. They were arrested sometime midday. On them was a couple thousand dollars in cash, passports belonging to other foreign nationals other than themselves, boxcutters, and bomb sniffing dogs were going nuts but no explosives were found. That van did not have a mural painted on it. So that is separate from the 2 guys arrested fleeing the one with the mural and the other van of Israeli's arrested trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge. 2) The guys arrested for celebrating were employees of Urban Moving Systems. The owner Dominic Suter, also an Israeli citizen, abandoned his business with people's belongings still in their storage and fled back to Israel on 9/14/2001 after finding out the FBI wanted to bring him in and talk to him. There appears to never have been any attempts or interest in questioning him for anything despite this oddly suspicious activity of abandoning your own business since. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 15 2008, 08:39 PM Post #5 |
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Yeah I had no interest in touching that at all. I contemplated the IM service which provided messages to Israeli's who were actually inside that morning but for time reasons and I felt that particular section was powerful enough without it I didn't bother. |
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| dbalsdon | Jan 16 2008, 12:27 AM Post #6 |
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The 4,000 Jews not going to work claim, is one of the more idiotic claims. On 9/11, the israeli embassy released a statement expressing concern for 4,000 israelis in new york at the time of the attack. Pro-palestinian channels, then started making the claims that 4,000 jews stayed off work, and that Ariel Sharon had been warned not to go to New York that day either. Every other news article on the subject was based on what the palestinian story. The full explanation is a bit more complex then that, but thats the main jist of it. |
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| arbor | Jan 16 2008, 04:52 PM Post #7 |
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Facts are important folks, if you want to be taken seriously. Here are the facts: #1. No explosives were ever found in any white vans. #2. No van exploded in Manhattan on 9-11. It was a false report. The vehicle was from Manhattan Demolition. #3. Racist morons called in hoax reports of people dressed like "Arabs" (what does an Arab dress like???) in white vans. Bigots had a field day on 9-11. Lets not give their bs any legitimacy. #4. The Idigo instant message said nothing about airplanes, about NYC, about the WTC, or about Al Qaeda. It was sent to two people..who weren't even in the United States!!! The really sad thing here is folks, that all this information has been readily available for years. It seems like some folks out there prefer not to find the real truth, since it takes them in a direction they would prefer not to go. For some people, ignorance is clearly bliss. These are the facts. This is the truth. Take it or leave it. Ignoring it doesn't make it untrue. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 16 2008, 05:58 PM Post #8 |
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1) Explosives were found. "Tons" of explosives according to both CBS & CNN in a white van driven by 4 individuals on the George Washington Bridge. This is fact. If this wasn't true then why were so many Israeli's arrested? Why did Dominic Suter of Urban Moving Systems flee the country when he heard the FBI wanted to question him? Are you actually saying NYPD was inventing stories on an emergency channel during the biggest terror attack on our country??? Before you call something "fact" you need to disprove the real evidence presented here. You haven't. You can't. Start with the NYC Emergency Channel 30 audio right there at the beginning. Explain why the cops are lying about arresting 2 guys fleeing a white van with a mural of the attacks on it and then state that the van exploded. Why would NYPD lie about that during the 9/11 attacks and what is your proof that NYPD are liars? 2) Proof? 3) Are you sure they were racist morons and not Israeli agents trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge? If so, where is your proof? 4) It was sent to Israeli's working inside the WTC. It told them to leave the facility because an attack was immenint. You are a hardcore Zionist for those who haven't interacted with you at the previous board. Everyone should be aware of that and take that into consideration when reading your posts. I have made a visual presentation of actual evidence here. You have typed a few words and called it lies. My video > Your lies. So if what you are saying is the 'facts' as you claim then you shouldn't have a hard time proving it. We'll be waiting. In the meantime my video will remain the presentation of facts. |
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| arbor | Jan 16 2008, 10:25 PM Post #9 |
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before I even begin, please back up your false accusation that I am a "hardcore" Zionist. I eagerly await your response. notice my avatar? you know what, i wont wait. yes, it is a FACT that CNN and CBS reported that vans filled with explosives were found near the GWB. It is also a FACT that reports from the mainstream media are not EVIDENCE until they are corroborated and back up. Its is also a FACT that these reports of explosives in the vans were later retracted, as there were NO EXPLOSIVES found. the only actual EVIDENCE you presented, was the NYPD radio transmission. I have one question for you: are you trying to tell me that a truck, full explosives, exploded in the middle of lower manhattan on 9-11, and there is no videos or photos of debree, no news story, no eyewitnesses, no physical evidence whatsoever? things were crazy that day, but there is absolutely no way such an event could occur without evidence. i am sorry. if you believe that a truck did indeed explode in lower manhattan, with ZERO physical evidence, then you must logically also believe that a 757 crashed into the pentagon. Edited by arbor, Jan 16 2008, 10:38 PM.
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| Gideon524 | Jan 16 2008, 11:24 PM Post #10 |
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At around 11:30 p.m. on 9/11, CNN broke with this report... Less than five minutes later, during a press conference with Mayor Giuliani, NYPD Commissioner Bernard Kerik denies that explosives were found. More to come if I find it. |
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| IVXX | Jan 16 2008, 11:29 PM Post #11 |
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So you can provide us with proof that the retraction was due to lack of evidence and not just to help in not causing complete chaos and panic?? Edited by IVXX, Jan 16 2008, 11:30 PM.
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| arbor | Jan 16 2008, 11:43 PM Post #12 |
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I can't do it now. I just got back from hanging with my girl. When I get the time (which will be soon), I will do the research and post it here, to put this nonsense to rest, once and for all. |
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| 911wasaninsidejob | Jan 17 2008, 03:19 AM Post #13 |
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Arbor, I actually agree with you in the fact that those reports about "Arab men" could be faked by bigots, and I think that it's good to have skepticism towards everything, but being that I also have a "girl" or a girlfriend, it seems like you're kind of using that line as a put down to other people on this forum, like other people that post here don't have girlfriends....correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| Xenomorph | Jan 17 2008, 03:00 PM Post #14 |
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Hey everyone, I found another one of these references to a truckload of explosives in the 9/11 coverage yesterday, from ABC News at 10:45pm, from Archive.org source video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlgnmjSkVbk Pick up a download of it here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z2U6LPZP How does one embed videos? Edited by Xenomorph, Jan 20 2008, 06:55 PM.
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| arbor | Jan 17 2008, 05:00 PM Post #15 |
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911- that is really freaking paranoid of you. i got home at 10:10 last night and have been recovering from a bad soar throat. i will do the neccessary research when i have more energy, got my wheels aligned, did my laundry, and cleaned my apartment. did i mention having a girlfriend to suggest that other people dont?. um...no. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 19 2008, 04:30 PM Post #16 |
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Just pointing out that it's been 5 days and Arbor still hasn't proved anything inside of the presentation to be false. Unless you trust Ghouliani as a source of information. |
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| arbor | Jan 19 2008, 05:51 PM Post #17 |
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relax. i have a life. maybe u dont. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 19 2008, 05:52 PM Post #18 |
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perhaps you should leave 9/11 research to people who are way more serious about it than you then..... |
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| Gideon524 | Jan 19 2008, 06:05 PM Post #19 |
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Oh, you didn't know?
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Watch it, Arbor. |
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| arbor | Jan 19 2008, 06:28 PM Post #20 |
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wow you're fast....=) |
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| arbor | Jan 19 2008, 10:07 PM Post #21 |
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Alright. I am unable to prove that the white vans had explosives and that a van did not explode in lower Manhattan. But on the flip side, no one can prove that a van did indeed blow up in Manhattan and that white vans did indeed have explosives in NJ. If a van did indeed blow up in Manhattan, it would be the most unprecidented event in NY history, as there are no witnesses, no photos or video of debree, and no physical evidence to this day. by the way, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D290n9pvUsE disprove that. Edited by arbor, Jan 20 2008, 10:54 AM.
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 20 2008, 02:31 PM Post #22 |
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Oh, I can't. by the way, CNN announced on 9/11 they were on their way to New Baltimore, PA to film the 2nd plane debris site for Flight 93, local Pittsburgh affiliates WTAE, WPXI, KDKA were all on their way too. The FBI shut down the town (basically a one road town of about 150 people or so) and nothing else was ever said about New Baltimore except that a piece of mail ended up there, end of story. That is the furthest thing from the end of story. Stories are stopped from making the press everyday in this country. Don't be so naive. Maybe this plane was heading to the state department and a truck bomb went off at the time it was supposed to as plan because those in charge of that part of the operation weren't informed that flight 93 had a 41 minute delay. Way more plausible than that "UA93 was meant for WTC7" theory if you ask me. Also may help explain this report. So I'm very open that this was a real event as well and in fact believe it most likely was. Would have been a nearly simultaneous attack on DC (Pentagon & State Dept.) to mimic the first sting in NYC. I think Flight 93 was put down because the United States Government knew it wouldn't be able to explain how a 4th plane made it to DC and hit the State Department building over 40 minutes after one hit the Pentagon. I think you people refer to that as "critical thinking". What do you think about that? Edited by Domenick DiMaggio, Jan 20 2008, 02:33 PM.
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| arbor | Jan 20 2008, 09:27 PM Post #23 |
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i think the state dept. bomb report was either a hoax, or a report of a suspicous package at the building which morphed into a bomb exploded story. it was a nutty day...if you recall. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jan 21 2008, 12:28 PM Post #24 |
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What do you think about Barbara Honneger's (sp?) work on the Pentagon? |
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| arbor | Jan 21 2008, 04:36 PM Post #25 |
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who? huh? |
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