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Judge Orders YouTube to Give All; User Histories to Viacom
Topic Started: Jul 3 2008, 11:01 AM (246 Views)
JFK
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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/07/judge-orders-yo.html

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Judge Orders YouTube to Give All User Histories to Viacom
By Ryan Singel EmailJuly 02, 2008 | 7:16:54 PMCategories: Copyrights and Patents

Google will have to turn over every record of every video watched by YouTube users, including users' names and IP addresses, to Viacom, which is suing Google for allowing clips of its copyright videos to appear on YouTube, a judge ruled Wednesday.

Viacom wants the data to prove that infringing material is more popular than user-created videos, which could be used to increase Google's liability if it is found guilty of contributory infringement.

Viacom filed suit against Google in March 2007, seeking more than $1 billion in damages for allowing users to upload clips of Viacom's copyright material. Google argues that the law provides a safe harbor for online services so long as they comply with copyright takedown requests.

Although Google argued that turning over the data would invade its users' privacy, the judge's ruling (.pdf) described that argument as "speculative" and ordered Google to turn over the logs on a set of four tera-byte hard drives.

The judge also turned Google's own defense of its data retention policies -- that IP addresses of computers aren't personally revealing in and of themselves, against it to justify the log dump.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation has already reacted, calling the order a violation of the Video Privacy Protection act that "threatens to expose deeply private information."

The order also requires Google to turn over copies of all videos that it has taken down for any reason.

Viacom also requested YouTube's source code, the code for identifying repeat copyright infringement uploads, copies of all videos marked private, and Google's advertising database schema.

Those requests were denied in whole, except that Google will have to turn over data about how often each private video has been watched and by how many persons.
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Can't they just look at the view counts? It sounds like some suited idiot in Viacom was told about the Ewe Toobs and that they might infringe on some copyrights... and they don't really understand how the site works.

It's a completely disproportionate reaction.
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Flippy

What are they going to do? Sue somebody for watching something on the internet?

Like the end user really effin cares how the content was obtained. These lawsuits will go over like a pregnant poll vaulter.
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Flippy
 
What are they going to do? Sue somebody for watching something on the internet?

Like the end user really effin cares how the content was obtained. These lawsuits will go over like a pregnant poll vaulter.


Knowledge is power.

MM
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Flippy

The ambiguous reply is the bucket in the hall. Meanings to each without context.

Enlighten me MM.
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Oh my Ford! I've been watching kids make cheesy video clips to well-known songs. Gasp, shock, horror!

I would call it advertising. I'm a punk, and I was referred to a YouTube posting of Blondie's "Heart of Glass" as performed by The Associates. Ford knows if that was an illegal download, but I still call it advertising because I now own a legit copy of a song that I previously didn't know existed. Although Billy's not a good looking as Debbie.

From all the "copyright" actions I've observed on YouTube, most of them seem to be censor-motivated rather than copy protection.

If Google had any sense, they would provide those Four iTB chunks of data as hard copy.

Just like Tax Time: I have one of those old printers that spits pages across the room, beneath it is about a two-foot stack o fan fold computer paper, and I kindly explain to the tax man, that he according to legislation he is only entitled to taxation information and not other sensitive information on the computer. Anything he wan'ts can be printed out. "But what about all that paper?" "Oh, don't worry. I have a couple of pallets down stairs, you won't run out."

If you really want to upset them, change the numeric fields to roman numerals. Have you ever tried doing long division in roman numerals????
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Here's what Viacom owns to boycott their products:

Film production and distribution

* Paramount Motion Pictures Group:
o Paramount Pictures Corporation
+ Paramount Vantage
+ Paramount Classics
+ Paramount Pictures International
o MTV Films
o Nickelodeon Movies
o DreamWorks, LLC (or DreamWorks SKG)
+ Go Fish Pictures
+ DreamWorks, Inc.
# DreamWorks Post-Production, LLC
+ DW Funding, LLC (49%)
o Paramount Home Entertainment
o United International Pictures (UIP), formerly Cinema International Corporation (CIC). It is a joint venture with NBC Universal's Universal Studios.
o Republic Pictures (or Republic Entertainment, Inc.)
o DreamWorks Animation SKG

Media Networks

Television networks

* CBS (Cable Brodcasting System)
* MTV
* MTV2
* MTV Tr3́s
* MTV Desi
* Nickelodeon/Nick at Nite
* The N
* Nicktoons Network
* TV Land
* CMT
* Spike
* VH1
* Noggin
* BET
* Comedy Central
* Logo
* MTV Networks International (includes TMF, VIVA and Paramount Comedy)
* Showtime/Sho 2/Shocase/Sho Extreme/Sho Beyond/Sho NEXT/Sho Woman/Sho Family zone/The Movie Channel/Sundance/FILX

Internet

* MTVi Group
* Nickelodeon Online
* BET.com
* Contentville.com (35%)
* Neopets
* GameTrailers
* iFilm
* Xfire
* GoCityKids
* Atom Entertainment, which consists of AddictingGames, Atom Uploads, and Shockwave.com
* Nick GAS

Miscellaneous Assets

* Viacom Consumer Products
* Bubba Gump Shrimp Company
* MTVN Direct (a division of MTV Networks Company)
* Viacom International, Inc.
* DreamWorks Television
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