The Truth

Jun 17 2008, 03:21 PM

To me Globalism is the single most evil ideology the world will ever face. One world government disintegrates different cultures and will lead to a dictatorship which the world has never seen. Thankfully I don;t see a globalist world soon. As long as countries like Russia and china are together they would never allow the evil UN to globalize the world

Illuminate

Jun 23 2008, 05:50 AM

This is the same stuff as before. Are you following this debate or not?

Illuminate

Jun 23 2008, 05:50 AM

This is the same stuff as before. Are you following this debate or not?

The Truth

Jun 17 2008, 03:17 PM

Can someone hear explain to me what is Nafta? I've meaning to look it up for a while. However never had the time.

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They wanted harmonization done in secret via the private sector and the public face being the SPP.

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The proof is we have our officials at meetings together with officers of foreign governments, which is a treasonable offense and espionage without governmental consent.

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Not to mention people talking about a Union and the Amero, two points that lead to the conclusion of an attempt to create a Union discussed by those officers and citizens committing the espionage in those secret meetings.

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the debate should not be whether it is documented as law... but whether there is a push by the establishment to move in that direction, and how diligently they are moving forward.

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I think that particular debate has been proven futile for your side. Perhaps if you moved the goalposts a little more you'd win an argument?

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This treaty was signed into law as an alternative way to send U.S. manufacturers into other countries in the Americas, which were prohibited by laws and regulations to do business. The primary goal is for the stock holder's and a corporations black ink.

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The Bureau of International Settlements (BIS), the World Bank(WB), and the International Montetary Fund (IMF) held countries, around and below the equator, on massive debts, which changed the political structure of those countries. Countries with massive debts which receive aid from the IMF, WB, and BIS must concede to the repayment conditions and conciliations for a number of years, as set by those organizations.

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By weakening internal business laws, worker rights, and environmental laws, CAFTA and NAFTA allowed many corporations to take full advantage of the workers rights and lax business regulations or none thereof; thwarted and prevented by the BIS, WB, and IMF.

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After companies in the United States left for the border to compete on the global market; our companies: corrupted those country's national politics, polluted on massive scales, continuously abused worker's rights, and fled in the end for China where worker wages were next to nothing.

Illuminate

Jun 24 2008, 11:58 AM

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They wanted harmonization done in secret via the private sector and the public face being the SPP.

First of all, that makes no sense. The private sector cannot harmonise government. Governments make the laws. Secondly this is just your way of saying that the fact that there is no evidence proves that there is a conspiracy, because if there was a conspiracy they would cover up all the evidence.

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The proof is we have our officials at meetings together with officers of foreign governments, which is a treasonable offense and espionage without governmental consent.

LOL, get serious!

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Not to mention people talking about a Union and the Amero, two points that lead to the conclusion of an attempt to create a Union discussed by those officers and citizens committing the espionage in those secret meetings.

"People" talking. What people? Academics? Again, this is a consistent attempt to misrepresent the views of private individuals and academics as government policy. The reason you do this is because you cannot come up with any real evidence.

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the debate should not be whether it is documented as law... but whether there is a push by the establishment to move in that direction, and how diligently they are moving forward.

But there is no push - that's why you keep having to misrepresent statements by academics, or fearmongering by pundits, as evidence of a real government plan.

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I think that particular debate has been proven futile for your side. Perhaps if you moved the goalposts a little more you'd win an argument?

That's hilarious. Who's moving the goalposts here? I just asked for evidence, and I never get any. Myname has now moved the goal posts are far as possible - because this is all "secret" we can't expect any evidence at all.

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This treaty was signed into law as an alternative way to send U.S. manufacturers into other countries in the Americas, which were prohibited by laws and regulations to do business. The primary goal is for the stock holder's and a corporations black ink.

Well no actually. Its funny how the supposedly anti-government types here are so horrified to imagine a world where the government doesn't decide who is allowed to trade what with whom.

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The Bureau of International Settlements (BIS), the World Bank(WB), and the International Montetary Fund (IMF) held countries, around and below the equator, on massive debts, which changed the political structure of those countries. Countries with massive debts which receive aid from the IMF, WB, and BIS must concede to the repayment conditions and conciliations for a number of years, as set by those organizations.

Lets stay on topic shall we?

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By weakening internal business laws, worker rights, and environmental laws, CAFTA and NAFTA allowed many corporations to take full advantage of the workers rights and lax business regulations or none thereof; thwarted and prevented by the BIS, WB, and IMF.

Right, so you want international standardisation of workers rights and business regulations? Again, you seem to be a big fan of big government. Free trade removes government from trade. That's a good thing.

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After companies in the United States left for the border to compete on the global market; our companies: corrupted those country's national politics, polluted on massive scales, continuously abused worker's rights, and fled in the end for China where worker wages were next to nothing.

Are you under the impression that international trade, and imports from poor countries, were invented in 1994?

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Incorrect. Private sector companies writes laws for itself and self regulation all the time.

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I am serious, while you are playing at bootlicking.

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If financial experts are are academics you should move your money into gold I heard it from academics.

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Stay on topic? I am answering The truth. Since you can't read like the truth nor communicate logically, go illuminate Saddam's crack.

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I am not under any impressions about international trade. Trade is historic and has always existed since ancient times. Stay off the topic unless you can answer the truth properly and without moronic statements.

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Free trade deregulations in countries whose regulations were circumvented were worse for the general welfare of the countries: worker's rights, financially, environmentally, and medically. As I said before you don't know anything but what you're spoon fed by corporate media. China is now experiencing all the above along with financial trade irregularities just like those under NAFTA and CAFTA via the corrupt government disenfranchisement. China also has good points, which do outweigh much of the general welfare issues, but the polices are centralized to the government taking a socialist approach to business run by a socialist republic/communist regime.

Illuminate

Jun 25 2008, 03:50 AM

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Incorrect. Private sector companies writes laws for itself and self regulation all the time.

Private sector companies don't write the law, this is simple. Governments write the law. You think a corporation is one day going to announce, "Hey, we just merged Mexico and the US. You know, we just wrote a few laws back at head office. Done deal.".

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I am serious, while you are playing at bootlicking.

Right, name a government official who is guilty of treason and espionage then, and show me the law.

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If financial experts are are academics you should move your money into gold I heard it from academics.

WTF? The question was who are the "people" that are talking about an Amero? As I keep saying, yes, "people" are talking about it, but who are these people?

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Stay on topic? I am answering The truth. Since you can't read like the truth nor communicate logically, go illuminate Saddam's crack.

And you have a Truther (TM) badge that says you can troll like that here. Enjoy.

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I am not under any impressions about international trade. Trade is historic and has always existed since ancient times. Stay off the topic unless you can answer the truth properly and without moronic statements.

So it was on topic when you brought it up and off topic when i responded. Oh wait you're flashing the Truther (TM) badge again.

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Free trade deregulations in countries whose regulations were circumvented were worse for the general welfare of the countries: worker's rights, financially, environmentally, and medically. As I said before you don't know anything but what you're spoon fed by corporate media. China is now experiencing all the above along with financial trade irregularities just like those under NAFTA and CAFTA via the corrupt government disenfranchisement. China also has good points, which do outweigh much of the general welfare issues, but the polices are centralized to the government taking a socialist approach to business run by a socialist republic/communist regime.

Totally incoherent.

Its not that complicated. Have you got anything besides Lou Dobbs, an academic, and racist crank Jerome Corsi? We've been through so many posts now yet nothing of substance is ever provided? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF PLANS FOR AN NAU OR AN AMERO?

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The energy bill was mired in secrecy from its inception, when Vice President Cheney's energy task force met to develop proposals that formed the basis of the legislation. An analysis by Public Citizen of some public documents shows that at least seven energy industry executives and lobbyists met with the task force, and that several members of that group are major fund-raisers for the Bush-Cheney campaign. Virtually all of the energy companies whose leaders met with the task force would benefit from the tax credits, subsidies, and deregulation laid out in the energy package.

Once the energy proposal wen to the Hill, Democrats were not permitted entry into the closed-door talks to write the complicated bill.

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All civilian employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the President and the Vice President, are covered by the provisions of the Hatch Act.

These employees may not:

* use official authority or influence to interfere with an election
* solicit or discourage political activity of anyone with business before their agency
* solicit or receive political contributions (may be done in certain limited situations by federal labor or other employee organizations)
* be candidates for public office in partisan elections
* engage in political activity while:
o on duty
o in a government office
o wearing an official uniform
o using a government vehicle
* wear partisan political buttons on duty

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The Economic Espionage Act (EEA) is a US Federal law established in 1996 that makes stealing trade secrets a criminal offense, and thus punishable. Prior to the establishment of the Economic Espionage Act, the Uniform Trade Secrets Act (UTSA) of 1970 made theft of trade secrets a civil offense, and those who illegally profited from such theft could be sued for the profits that should have belonged to the company holding the trade secret.

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The idea of a single currency for the United States, Canada, and Mexico is not new and has usually referred to one of two approaches. The first, and most discussed, is the unilateral adoption of the U.S. dollar by Canada and Mexico, otherwise known as dollarization. Dollarization has been advocated for not only Canada and Mexico but also many other countries in the Western Hemisphere (Hausmann 1999; Schuler 1999). Some Latin American countries are already dollarized: Ecuador unilaterally dollarized its economy in September 2000, and Panama has employed the U.S. dollar as its currency since 1904. Monetary union is the other interpretation of the single-currency idea; that is, rather than unilateral adoption of the U.S. dollar, a joint currency could be developed and managed by a number of countries.

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And you have a Truther (TM) badge that says you can troll like that here. Enjoy.

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So it was on topic when you brought it up and off topic when i responded. Oh wait you're flashing the Truther (TM) badge again.

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Totally incoherent.

Its not that complicated. Have you got anything besides Lou Dobbs, an academic, and racist crank Jerome Corsi? We've been through so many posts now yet nothing of substance is ever provided? WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF PLANS FOR AN NAU OR AN AMERO?

JFK

Jun 25 2008, 07:48 AM

Mynameis, please chill with the ad homiens.... There is no need to stoop to their level.

illuminate

 

mynameis

 

This treaty was signed into law as an alternative way to send U.S. manufacturers into other countries in the Americas, which were prohibited by laws and regulations to do business. The primary goal is for the stock holder's and a corporations black ink.

Well no actually. Its funny how the supposedly anti-government types here are so horrified to imagine a world where the government doesn't decide who is allowed to trade what with whom.