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Is The North American Union Real?
Topic Started: Jan 12 2008, 07:57 PM (2,086 Views)
IVXX
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The North American Union was officially born at Baylor University in Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005.

Baylor Hosts President Bush, Mexican President Fox And Canadian Prime Minister Martin For Historic Meeting

US, Canada and Mexico pledge to build new alliance

RELATED: Dear Deluded Mass Media, North American Union Agenda Exists

Although the 'quixotic candidate' Ron Paul has been attacked for believing in a North American Union conspiracy theory, this belief in "fiction" is posted as policy on official government websites and its related issues have been continuously covered by MSM news anchors that include at least CNN's Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck and Larry King.

Vguard says: The only ones claiming this is a conspiracy are the ones saying that it doesn't exist. Transnational integration and standardization will create a de facto union. Once this process is complete, changing the names will simply be a formality. The process is already so far along that denying the physical reality of it is no longer credible. Which is why the establishment is feigning innocence and resorting to spin and name calling.

WND: 'Declaration of North American Integration' unearthed. Activist points to mayor's endorsement on document signed by 90 leaders

World Net Daily: Documents disclose 'shadow government'

Who Says the North American Union Is a Conspiracy Theory?

Province of Manitoba Throne Speech Nov.20, 2007

"Mannitoba is also taking a major role in the development of a mid-continent trade corridor connecting our northern port of Churchill with trade markets throughout the central U.S. and Mexico. To advance the concept, an alliance has been built with business leaders and state and city governments throughout the length of the corridor."

Province of Manitoba Throne Speech

Fmr. Mexican President Vicente Fox

Discussing North American integration a "long-term" plan
for a unified currency CNN's Larry King Live

Larry King Live segment

NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY

Alberta Infrastructure and Transportation Official Website


URL:http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/2760.htm

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NASCO Corridor: Tri-National Advocacy for Efficient, Secure and Environmentally Conscious Trade & Transportation

URL:http://www.nascocorridor.com

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Security & Prosperity Parternship of North America

Documents on SPP and related meetings released through FOIA requests at JudicialWatch.org

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Flow charts from JudicialWatch.org:
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The Trans-Texas Corridor not only exists, but includes "Interstate and International Trade Corridors"

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CANAMEX Corridor Coalition website, which includes a Governor's Task Force headed by Gov. Napolitano.

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News items discussing Giuliani's ties to the NAFTA Superhighway through Bracewell & Giuliani, his law firm:

Giuliani Linked to "NAFTA Superhighway"

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Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) Official Publication on "Building a North American Community"

"The Task Force offers a detailed and ambitious set of proposals that
build on the recommendations adopted by the three governments at
the Texas summit of March 2005. The Task Force’s central recommen-
dation is establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and
security community, the boundaries of which would be defined by a
common external tariff and an outer security perimeter,"
Foreword to Building a North American Community

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Lou Dobbs debates Robert Pastor, one of the key authors of "Building a North American Community," about the continental integration on CNN:

Lou Dobbs segment May 22, 2007

EMBASSY: Canada's Foreign Policy Newsweekly - Meet the Powerful Business Members of the North American Competitiveness Council

North American Forum on Integration (NAFI)

History of NAFTA Integration

A NAFTA timeline


Maps of the North American Trade Corridors

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NAFI includes Triumvirate, "the only North American model parliament" student government project: Notice that their main objectives include a "better understanding of NAFTA's realities" and "North American integration issues." Real.

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North American International Trade Corridor Partnership (NAITCP): 2004 Kansas City, Missouri

"NAITCP serves as a bridge between municipal authorities from Canada, the United States and Mexico"

"The role of integration in North America centers around organizations such as NAITCP. Ten years ago, Canada, the United States and Mexico started an economic, diplomatic and service oriented venture toward free trade and convergence."

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Center for Strategic & International Studies publications on North American integration

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North American Industry Classification System (NAICS)

The standardization and centralization of policy into a North American Union framework is very real, a fact we personally came face to face with this week after our office received a letter from the Texas Workforce Commission demanding that we provide business information for the purposes of assigning a North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) code to our location.

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"The North American Industry Classification System has replaced the U.S. Standard Industrial Classification (SIC) system. NAICS will reshape the way we view our changing economy."

"NAICS was developed jointly by the U.S., Canada, and Mexico to provide new comparability in statistics about business activity across North America."

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CNN Sometimes Claims The North American Union Is Fictitous, Other Times It Is Covered As News

Lou Dobbs regularly covers the North American Union by name and also covers almost all its key issues, including Robert Pastor, author of "Building a North American Community"

Lou Dobbs segment

Merging & Integration of Policy

Joint statement of key policy integration at the 2007 Montebello meeting, posted at SSP.gov

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Look at all the points of integration through multiple layers of over-lapping areas.

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"THE AMERO" (Unified American Currency)

The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has been unrelenting in its attempt to kill off national currency and integrate into regional monetary policy.


CFR: The End of National Currency

CFR: The Curse of Currency Autarky

CFR: Regional Monetary Integration

The End of National Currency

CFR: Impact of EMU on Europe's Evolution Deserves Renewed Attention

Bush Stealthily Authorizes Full Access to U.S. Roads for Even More Mexico-Based NAFTA Trucks

For more on the North American Union read:

The Late Great U.S.A. - The Coming Merger With Mexico and Canada

The European Union was put into place incrementally over fifty years, not by the citizens of the member states, but by efforts of an intellectual elite who disguised their ultimate goal of a regional government. Today, a bloated, unelected bureaucracy has rule over hundreds of millions of people - people who have no say over the EU's actions, or their own futures.

Think it can't happen here? According to New York Times best-selling author Jerome Corsi, it already has. The Security and Prosperity Partnership, announced in 2005 by the leaders of Mexico, the US, and Canada but never presented to Congress for approval, is already laying the groundwork for the merger of the three nations into a North American Union. "Taxation without representation?" That's just for starters..........

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ivxx I don't know if you knew, but this January Bush signed an emergency bill that allowed for more flow between the US-Mexico border.
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IVXX, what I want to know is how you fabricated all of that information to support your crazy conspiracy theory? ;)
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outside

Of course, if it's not on the news it must be a crazy conspiracy theory! Simple as that.
:)
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A video by CNN with Lou Dobbs talking about the NWO

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8814908356918064924&q=CNN+NWO&total=397&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
Edited by rawn, Jan 21 2008, 01:37 PM.
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Doublespeak 101

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br31mdP8-Ug
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Domenick DiMaggio

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Could someone describe in three of four sentences what's so bad with the NAU?
Is it about loosing American sovereignty? And if yes - isn't it better to get along with some well known comrades than to be the slave of new superpowers like China?
Serious questions - pleading for serious answers.
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Bitterman

This thread hasn't had any action in a bit, so I'll show this nice video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0LvtQAQ6sc

anyone wanna bet we see some "similar" comments here as we do on google video or digg?

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Feb 11 2008, 11:11 AM
Could someone describe in three of four sentences what's so bad with the NAU?
Hum, lets see....its being planned and implemented by mass murderers.

Do you really need another reason?
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I find it interesting that the sum total of all of this is zero, literally zero evidence of a NAU. Yet you believe it anyway.
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I find it interesting that you contribute a sum of exactly zero to this conversation, yet you are posting in it anyway.
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Well where is the evidence? From what I can see, the fact that some people think that there is going to be an NAU is presented as evidence that there is going to be a NAU. e.g. if CNN reports that some people think there is an NAU, then "the media has admitted that there is going to be an NAU, Lou Dobbs said so". Or if some academic says "an NAU would be a good thing", then "THEY are planning an NAU, they have admitted it".

But where's the substance? There's nothing.
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Bitterman

How about.....

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=5a5921ee-d1ca-4679-be3a-e5d34d6e4a96&p=2

and

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52684

or

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965

or (this is just a google search. Like, what did you just find out about this wonderful place called the 'Interweb'?)

Link here

Hey look! It's a bunch of images of all three Presidents getting together to talk about the SPP! OMG!!! It must be faked eh? Wait, there are more pictures here! They show maps and plans for the transportation corridor! It's gotta be BS right? omg....

or better yet, this is gotta be from your favorite news source..

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/29/ldt.01.html

and a video!!!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a8_1179509286

Are these people writing stories about something that doesn't even exist? No one knows about this???

On crack much? wtf!

Why are you even on here Illuminate?? Like, you've just shown without any doubt that you are the most ignorant person on here. Keep on trucking though, you clearly don't care! Well done. Please go back to school, read a book and listen to people instead of just listening to yourself talk.

Edited by Lin Kuei, Jun 16 2008, 01:11 PM.
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That's a report saying that some people are afraid there is going to be a NAU. This is EXACTLY what I said, reports that people think there is an NAU are misrepresented as reports that there is an NAU.
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As above.
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Editorial by a racist crackpot who is most famous for helping out on smear campaign for the Republicans. You do know the difference between editorial and reporting, right?
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or (this is just a google search. Like, what did you just find out about this wonderful place called the 'Interweb'?)

Link here
This is just embarrassing, the fact that a web search turns up hits proves something is true? I could google UFOs or alien abduction or ANYTHING and get web hits.
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Hey look! It's a bunch of images of all three Presidents getting together to talk about the SPP! OMG!!! It must be faked eh? Wait, there are more pictures here! They show maps and plans for the transportation corridor! It's gotta be BS right? omg....
OMG the SPP is not the NAU. And I'm not the type to run around like a chicken with its head cut off because someone is building another highway to Mexico. But some people are easily whipped into a frenzy by fearmongering.
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or better yet, this is gotta be from your favorite news source..

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/29/ldt.01.html
My favorite or yours? You are the one posting it. Let me guess: CNN is a reputable source when it says what you want to hear, but the rest of the time it is "the media" and you instantly reject it as a source. i.e. only you can use "the media" as a source, nobody else is allowed to.

But its moot anyway. "which critics call nothing more than a North American union". Yes critics say. Again, the shocking news is not that plans for a North America Union, but that there are people who think there is going to be one. Exactly like I said.
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Lou Dobbs, exactly as I predicted.
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Are these people writing stories about something that doesn't even exist? No one knows about this???
The fear of an NAU exists, an NAU does not. If it did you'd have provided some actual evidence.
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On crack much? wtf!
OMG!!!1!!1
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Why are you even on here Illuminate?? Like, you've just shown without any doubt that you are the most ignorant person on here. Keep on trucking though, you clearly don't care! Well done. Please go back to school, read a book and listen to people instead of just listening to yourself talk.
That's all very nice, but you've got nothing, exactly as I predicted.

Edited by Lin Kuei, Jun 16 2008, 01:10 PM.
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Bitterman

You said this "But where's the substance? There's nothing."

And I posted above. You just go off the deep end because you got an answer. That info is there as a form of "evidence" that the NAU exists. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not at all well versed in this NAU BS. All I know is, you're on one side and think it's BS, and I'm on the other, thinking you're BS. That's all!

None of this crap is my "favorite". Continue spouting Dimluminate, we basically know what you do here.

Tell us what you REALLY think man! Hit us with your best opinion. "Inform" us poor people who are lost in ignorance. Please!
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All I asked was evidence of an NAU, not evidence that people think there is an NAU.

You failed completely, in fact I predicted what you would do and then you went ahead and did it. You just copied and pasted the usual links, and then when I pointed out that none of them contain actual evidence of a NAU you tried to make excuses that you are "not all that well versed" in NAU theories anyway.

Did you notice nobody else stepped in to back it up either? People believe in it because it fits their prejudices. Its what they want to hear. So you get a whole thread like this of people agreeing with each other but nobody every bothered to actually question it.
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Revid

Still no evidence of a NAU? I'll come back in five years and see if you guys have found anything.
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Bitterman

It's not anyone's job to prove to you what is going on. It's certainly not my job to prove it to you. Go ahead and believe what ever the fuck you want.

It's very telling that you come on here and "ask" people to prove that the NAU doesn't exist. If the NAU didn't exist, or anything along the lines of it, there would be not a single piece of information to glean from ANY source. We'd would have to MAKE IT UP. Since that is not happening, and we have information, we can take a guess that the fuckers at the top are doing some kind of shit. Also, since we have you people here trying to "show" us or "prove" to us that NOTHING is happening, I can also guess that something is actually happening.

If you're convinced it's not real, then move the fuck on with life man! Leave all us poor misguided people to believe whatever we like right?

Is it not still a "free" country? Pfft.
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All you've done is essentially offer up proposals from think tanks for better facilitating trade and cooperation between governments on some issues that affect the whole region. There's not a single shred of evidence in this thread that anyone "at the top" is actively planning or trying to unite North America into a single nation.
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Jun 17 2008, 02:12 AM
All you've done is essentially offer up proposals from think tanks for better facilitating trade and cooperation between governments on some issues that affect the whole region. There's not a single shred of evidence in this thread that anyone "at the top" is actively planning or trying to unite North America into a single nation.
That's right.... The people at the bottom are the ones who have begun building that highway in texas.... and bought the local newspapers with the intention of supressing the publicity.

/sarchasm off

I would suggest you skeptics begin looking at the money trail for that project. :|

Edit to add - http://www.spp.gov/

Edited by JFK, Jun 17 2008, 09:40 AM.
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Can someone hear explain to me what is Nafta? I've meaning to look it up for a while. However never had the time.
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To me Globalism is the single most evil ideology the world will ever face. One world government disintegrates different cultures and will lead to a dictatorship which the world has never seen. Thankfully I don;t see a globalist world soon. As long as countries like Russia and china are together they would never allow the evil UN to globalize the world
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