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Was This How It Happened
Topic Started: Jun 26 2008, 04:16 PM (827 Views)
iceman1731	Jun 26 2008, 04:16 PM Post #1
Posts: 1 Group: Members Member #645 Joined: 06/10/08	Simulated Impact
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JFK	Jun 26 2008, 04:30 PM Post #2
Posts: 4,221 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Frankly I don't think so. Search for some close up views of the facade, especially the left wing impact zone and compare that with the simulation and you will see what I mean.
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Headspin	Jun 26 2008, 05:00 PM Post #3
Posts: 975 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Purdue_researchers_create_911_computer_simulation_0620.html "the National Science Foundation (NSF), the agency that funded the Purdue study, is an agency whose board was appointed by George W. Bush and confirmed by the United States Senate," and that its director, Dr. Arden L. Bement Jr. worked for employers such as General Electric Company, Battelle Northwest Laboratories, and DARPA (the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), the agency responsible for the development of new technology for use by the military. Battelle = thermite technology patents http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060266204.html Batelle aquired a sample of the Ames Anthrax from Fort Detrick in May 2001. http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/open_letter_mueller.html
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Freq Band	Jun 30 2008, 10:19 AM Post #4
Posts: 85 Group: Skeptics Member #583 Joined: 05/17/08	Headspin Jun 26 2008, 05:00 PM ".... (NSF), the agency that funded the Purdue study, is an agency whose board was appointed by George W. Bush and confirmed by the United States Senate," and that its director, Dr. Arden L. Bement Jr. worked for employers such as General Electric Company, Battelle Northwest Laboratories, and DARPA (the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency), the agency responsible for the development of new technology for use by the military." Let me be the first here to also add that Dr. Arden L. Bement Jr. was also the head of NIST, and was a professor at Purdue's School of Nuclear Engineering. Even still, I think that this person is pretty far removed from dictating the content and conclusions of the study. He didn't conduct the study, several professors and graduate students did. If conclusions and exclusions are solely based on remote association, then we would be determining truth or lies based on "The Kevin Bacon Game". =FB= Edited by Freq Band, Jun 30 2008, 10:22 AM.
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JackD	Jun 30 2008, 12:35 PM Post #5
Posts: 263 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	Jerome Hauer was well connected to both Battelle, SAIC, and 9/11. the hatfill suspect angle was a red herring. http://911review.org/Sept11Wiki/Hauer,Jerome.shtml
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logos	Oct 12 2008, 11:08 AM Post #6
Posts: 18 Group: Members Member #632 Joined: 06/03/08	"IF" thats what happend to the first building.. then how does it explain the collapse of the second building that was hit... which hit the corner of the tower and barely scathed the core columns... and the explosion burst straight out the building http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mksti5xcT6E or an even better view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG25MRnPy1o&feature=related the blast never went through the building only out the right side of the impact's face. Edited by logos, Oct 12 2008, 11:11 AM.
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Miragememories	Oct 17 2008, 10:10 AM Post #7
Posts: 759 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: 01/15/08	logos "IF" thats what happend to the first building.. then how does it explain the collapse of the second building that was hit... which hit the corner of the tower and barely scathed the core columns... and the explosion burst straight out the building http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mksti5xcT6E or an even better view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG25MRnPy1o&feature=related the blast never went through the building only out the right side of the impact's face." It doesn't explain. The only Official Theory on the collapse of WTC 2 (South Tower) is the one supported by the NIST. The NIST Final Report on the Collapse of the WTC Twin Towers is the bible used to explain away all the 9/11 Truth Movement claims to the contrary. This 10,000 page publication was designed to provide an answer to every conceivable question, but restricted in it's analysis because the NIST pre-determined that "aircraft impact and subsequent fire" were the sole cause. They created politically acceptable determinations, by stretching computer modeling further than had ever been previously attempted. For instance, all the NIST conclusions about the number of aircraft-impact failed massive core columns, are based on the results of their computer model pioneering. If anything, the NIST appeared to avoid any empiric evidence, or negative results from their testing, whenever the data didn't support the desired output from their computer model. Even so, they only achieved collapse initiation using "fudged" data in their worst case computer simulation. For a successful computer modeled collapse initiation, the NIST determined that most of the SFRM fireproofing had to be removed by the aircraft impacts. The supporting tests for this would be considered quite amusing if not for the seriousness of what they were doing (one test involved shotgun blasts against SFRM coated plywood). The crux of their conclusions lies in their theory that SFRM denuded structural steel trusses "sagged" under the heat of intensely hot office furnishing fires and somehow "pulled" the perimeter columns inwards. According to the NIST, WTC 2, failed from fire 56 minutes after impact. On January 23rd, 1991, there was a major fire at 1 Meridian Plaza in Philadelphia. The building frame is structural steel with concrete floors poured over metal decks. All structural steel and floor assemblies were protected with spray-on fireproofing material. Fire gutted 8 floors of this 38-story building. The fire burned for more that 19 hours and at that time was the largest high-rise office building fire in U.S. history. FEMA: "After 11 hours of uncontrolled fire growth and spread, interior firefighting efforts were abandoned due to the risk of structural collapse. Consultation with a structural engineer and structural damage observed by units operating in the building led to the belief that there was a possibility of a pancake structural collapse of the fire damaged floors. After the fire, there was evident significant structural damage to horizontal steel members and floor sections on most of the fire damaged floors. Beams and girders sagged and twisted -- some as much as three feet -- under severe fire exposures, and fissures developed in the reinforced concrete floor assemblies in many places. Despite this extraordinary exposure, the columns continued to support their loads without obvious damage. " Bolding is mine. MM
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SlatersMullet	Nov 3 2008, 04:17 PM Post #8
Posts: 2 Group: BANNED! Member #918 Joined: 11/03/08	What happened at the Kader Toy Factory? I forgot.
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BoneZ	Nov 3 2008, 05:43 PM Post #9
Posts: 724 Group: Members Member #269 Joined: 02/03/08	iceman1731 Jun 26 2008, 04:16 PM Simulated Impact Take note that too many exterior columns were severed in this simulation. Also take note the flimsy small pieces of aluminum breaking away the core columns. Also note that the core columns are supposed to be much larger than the perimeter columns. Also note that the core is depicted wrong and was much more solidly constructed than depicted. The real core was only slightly damaged and not even close to being damaged enough for any sort of collapse or even structural failure of any kind.
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