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| look-up | Jul 10 2008, 01:13 PM Post #176 |
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which begs the question, "If WTC 7 was evacuated, and it had very small fires compared to the initially large fires in the towers, why weren't the towers evacuated?" it obviously wouldn't have given the perps their desired ritual sacrifice, which was surely part of the intention that day. |
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| Miragememories | Jul 10 2008, 01:18 PM Post #177 |
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The BBC producer did his best to script and edit Barry in a way that easily creates that impression. At approximately 13:45 into the doc, Barry Jennings says; "When we got to the 8th floor I started walking ..." I have to agree that Barry's apparent willingness to participate in the reenactments and his apparent acceptance of the distortion to his original testimony, does nothing to help his credibility. The fact still remains, that he was trapped because the WTC7 6th floor staircase landings were blown out and there is no valid reason for them to have been by the collapse of WTC 2. MM Edited by Miragememories, Jul 10 2008, 01:39 PM.
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| JFK | Jul 10 2008, 01:24 PM Post #178 |
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Lookup, the part which I have bolded is a common fallicy, Sprinkler heads are equipped with a metal which has a very low melting point which melts in the event of a fire which opens the head. Most cases there is also a pump with a pressure sensor whick kicks on the pump when it senses a loss of pressure in the circuit. Obviously I don't know why those sprinklers failed as I was not there that day, but someone could have turned the master water valves off, or there could have been a power failure to the pumps. Somewhere on this board I have a thread with pictures of those pumps. Anyway, Wiki has a decent article on sprinkler operation here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_sprinkler_system - Just trying to keep it real. Edit to add - Those pics are in this thread - http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/51493/1/ The red paint indicates fire apparatus.
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| datman | Jul 10 2008, 07:11 PM Post #179 |
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I was looking for a better link to the BBC show and found this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4576154575407650292 |
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| Stundie | Jul 10 2008, 09:07 PM Post #180 |
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Good point Look-Up. Wasn't some of the occupants of the 2nd tower that was hit sent back in, after the 1st one was struck? |
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| Stundie | Jul 11 2008, 07:57 AM Post #181 |
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I looked at the link but it's not what I am after....but thanks Headspin. I seem to remember that after this incident and a little later on in the day after the towers collapsed, Phil and Jayne talk again. It is quite dark in New York, so I imagine it is quite late in the UK. He speaks to her about the events of the day, then Phil mentions the WTC 7 and the feed is cut again. I've desperately tried to find it. It was released the same time as this 1st clip, but everyone seems focused on this one and forgotten about the other later clip. Unless I imagined it?? Cheers Stundie |
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| Stundie | Jul 11 2008, 08:12 AM Post #182 |
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Bingo.....Its was Bill Turnbull, not Phil....Doh!! Here it is...Goto 2:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqAHhTWEH0 Bill Turbull: "After the collapse of the Solomon Building Jayne, are the other buildings in that area stable." Jayne Stanley: "Hmm....ahh" A brief look away from the Camera...looks back....and smiles looks away for a second again.. Bill Turnbull: "Hello Jayne." and as she turns her head back to the camera. Jayne Stanley: "Nada" Satellite timer feed again?? Or more like someone told her keep keep quiet. Hence she looks away....again. It could be that she doesn't hear Bill in the studio, but she never asks him to repeat the question. The BBC are shameful. Edited by Stundie, Jul 11 2008, 08:16 AM.
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| Headspin | Jul 11 2008, 08:53 AM Post #183 |
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is this "engineer" Jerome Hauer ? http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/427522/1/#new |
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| Miragememories | Jul 11 2008, 09:00 AM Post #184 |
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Script reading and theatre, BBC producer's idea of how to present Barry Jennings.![]() From BBC's The Conspiracy Files - 9-11 The Third Tower @00:09:34 [BBC Narrator]"Feared dead by his family, Barry Jennings has become the key witness in the controversy over what really happened inside Tower 7." MM Edited by Miragememories, Jul 11 2008, 09:05 AM.
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| Comeoutofthecupboards | Jul 11 2008, 09:11 AM Post #185 |
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In Canada 5.2 Impairment and interruption (a) Routine maintenance or an alteration to the fire alarm system which could possibly inadvertently actuate the fire alarm system shall not be carried out during normal working hours, except for emergency service or repairs as permitted in (b). http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/tbm_119/chap3_4-1_e.asp Not quite there.. Edited by Comeoutofthecupboards, Jul 11 2008, 09:18 AM.
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| look-up | Jul 11 2008, 09:48 AM Post #186 |
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Thanks ![]() I guess I was trying to say that part of the operation might have included disabling the sprinklers by whatever means necessary. If you are evacuating everyone anyways, it would be easy for someone to shut off the pumps somehow. The conclusion I come to is this. Based on the evidence we know 7 was demolished. Since we know that and it really can't be refuted, we can assume that they had a cover story ready much like they have one ready for everything else. With that assumption in place, it is then easy to assume that the fires needed to be maintained, which could be the reason for the following... 1, deactivation of alarms 2, evacuation of personnel 3, possible disabling of sprinkler pumps 4, not allowing the fires to be fought successfully. |
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| Flippy | Jul 11 2008, 01:00 PM Post #187 |
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The only way for them to disable the sprinkler system is to cut water to the building. As JFK mentioned, the sprinklers go off based on heat. |
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| JFK | Jul 11 2008, 01:26 PM Post #188 |
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Yeah, but that concept does make for a good movie.
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| look-up | Jul 11 2008, 02:27 PM Post #189 |
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let us not forget that this building was wired for demolition... so it could have very well had the water turned off that morning. the fact remains, the sprinklers did not do their job. |
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| chrisfarb | Jul 11 2008, 03:41 PM Post #190 |
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I'm probably on thin ice here but fire chief Nigro seems a little suspicious to me. He gets a bit defensive at the end by claiming how disgusted he is that anyone would suggest he could be involved in the conspiracy. Watch how he fidgets and unweights himself as he is saying it.
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