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| Bbc - Wtc7; Coming Soon | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 19 2008, 07:56 PM (4,665 Views) | |
| dylan avery | Jun 19 2008, 07:56 PM Post #1 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/conspiracy_files/ This is gonna be interesting. |
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| stopsnitchin | Jun 19 2008, 10:02 PM Post #2 |
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I'm sure it's going to be a very fair and informative documentary (sarcasm) Edited by stopsnitchin, Jun 19 2008, 10:04 PM.
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| mbrown | Jun 20 2008, 01:32 AM Post #3 |
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I saw this on the blog...looks interesting. |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | Jun 20 2008, 01:56 AM Post #4 |
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too bad it looks great. bank on it being a hit piece..... |
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| Lin Kuei | Jun 20 2008, 01:58 AM Post #5 |
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Wow it sure is! It's hard to tell from that preview exactly what slant they are gonna take on it... but it looks promising so far! [edit to add] and yes - usual cynicism aside it still is probably gonna be another thinly veiled hit piece Edited by Lin Kuei, Jun 20 2008, 01:59 AM.
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| alexvegas | Jun 20 2008, 04:52 AM Post #6 |
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Good to see they involved you Dylan, and Steven Jones. Also I'm glad to see Guy Smith isn't producing it. I'd still love to hear what Jane Standley thought when she saw the building collapse behind her and found out it was the same one she was talking about. |
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| Reggie_perrin | Jun 20 2008, 05:47 AM Post #7 |
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Haha, i like how the BBC always make the preview look like they're going to make some amazing revelation, classic bait and switch, they did that with the 9/11 conspiracy files. Hey i noticed Richard Clarke is in it, some people suspect him of being the high level placed Israeli spy named "mega" , apparently whoever "mega" is/was he worked/works for both the clinton and bush administration, so it has to be one of around 6 people, Richard Clarke is one of the 6 who worked for both admins. That said it probably isn't Clarke because whoever it is, is still at large in the government, Marc Grossman is another possibility, and we know he is up to his neck in the sibel edmonds scandal. http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_06_02/cover.html Edited by Reggie_perrin, Jun 20 2008, 05:48 AM.
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| einsteen | Jun 20 2008, 07:57 AM Post #8 |
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The opening looks cool! |
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| look-up | Jun 20 2008, 08:24 AM Post #9 |
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I heard bermas play this on Alex Jones' show yesterday... it sounds like a hit piece to me too. they will accomplish this by doing what history channel did, and portray the official story experts as real experts, while making our side look like amateurs. |
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| mid life rethinker | Jun 20 2008, 09:24 AM Post #10 |
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hit piece. |
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| chrisfarb | Jun 20 2008, 09:58 AM Post #11 |
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A different kind of hit piece I'm guessing. Taking our best arguments and evidence and subtly showing the audience that we are still a bunch of paranoid kooks. A subtle demonstration of the power of propaganda to destroy the most blatantly obvious evidence. |
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| bretwalda | Jun 20 2008, 10:01 AM Post #12 |
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A hit piece is gonna be tough when you have folk like Berry Jennings giving his account. ...Dick Clarke - LOL! Check this - Producer on 7/7 |
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| Travis | Jun 20 2008, 10:50 AM Post #13 |
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The purpose of the BBC's ' conspiracy series' is to refute any explanation of a major event that contradicts the 'official' version. I am intrigued how do are going to attempt to do that with building 7, especially after they reported it collapsed before it actually did. Perhaps they got those devices from M.I.B which makes you forget what happened. |
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| Nevermind | Jun 20 2008, 10:55 AM Post #14 |
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I don't understand why Jennings didn't want his statement included in Loose Change Final Cut yet there he is in living color on this new documentary. And I know the JFERs are gonna say, "Well, that's because he doesn't want to be associated with conspiracy nuts," which is BS. The reason he gave Dylan to have the interview pulled from Final Cut was so people(truthers and 9/11 Commission supporters alike) wouldn't be harrassing him at his job wanting to chit chat over 9/11 while he was trying to work. In either case, this new documentary will associate his face with WTC7 and if he thought people were bugging him before, wait until this BBC documentary airs. Sounds to me like he's had a change of heart. Makes no sense at all. Since Jennings is going public with his WTC7 experience on BBC, does this mean we can finally release the interview he gave Dylan for Final Cut? |
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| Reggie_perrin | Jun 20 2008, 11:16 AM Post #15 |
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| Miragememories | Jun 20 2008, 11:17 AM Post #16 |
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Well if the program is true to the promo, it looks to me like we might finally get some decent coverage from the BBC. On the other hand, it is very interesting that the promo director avoided a strong presentation of the program's major counterpoints, which most certainly exist. It can be deduced from the promo's program sampling, that controlled demolition will be disputed, by arguing that the means did not exist. "It's not real, the materials, the technologies just aren't there, if they were, I'd know." Another unsupported counterpoint smugly states; "Could one use a controlled demolition on any building?..sure, did it happen to WTC 7 on 9/11? no it did not" It looks like they will present all the firefighter testimony about how the fully involved WTC 7 was clearly going to collapse. "You could hear the building creak, you could hear things fall, you could hear the fire burning and you could hear the destruction way above it." They are also using the infamous premature announcement of the WTC 7 collapse, as made by the BBC themselves. Undoubtedly they will again re-explain that it was just a mis-communication resulting from the chaos of the day. But it was in fact, another example of an advance warning, repeatedly going out to the public. There really seemed to be a sense of urgency by some, to prepare the public in advance for WTC 7's collapse. Maybe because it was feared that without planting an expectation in the viewing public's mind, they would be even less inclined to believe as credible, WTC 7's suspicious looking collapse. "The promo baits the hook nicely, it plays on the sensational aspects of the 9/11 Truth Movement's WTC 7 argument while being very careful to maintain interest, by not revealing too much of the debunking that the program will employ. MM |
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| Stundie | Jun 20 2008, 12:07 PM Post #17 |
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Of course, it will end like the end of the trailers final statement. "Building 7 is the 1st high rise in the world that as collapsed sole due to....." Explosives....hahahahahhaha!! I highly doubt it. |
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| dylan avery | Jun 20 2008, 12:13 PM Post #18 |
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Care to elaborate, Reggie? |
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| alexvegas | Jun 20 2008, 12:17 PM Post #19 |
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You're making the same mistake everyone makes whenever something about the BBC happens. The BBC is a massive organisation. They don't have an editorial opinion as such, and it's employees are free thinking people. The people who made this documentary had NOTHING to do with the Jane Standley pre-reporting incident. In fact if you watched the trailer they show clips of her and mention it. The BBC isn't a small camera crew and a few presenters. I Repeat: This documentary was made from a team entirely separate from BBC Worldwide or whoever it was that reported WTC7 had fallen, and they are free to investigate them as they wish. |
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| Reggie_perrin | Jun 20 2008, 12:19 PM Post #20 |
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Perhaps they offered him a nice little bunsen burner (nice little earner). |
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| look-up | Jun 20 2008, 12:22 PM Post #21 |
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I wouldn't be supsicious of Barry unless he suddenly said his previous account was entirely wrong... |
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| einsteen | Jul 6 2008, 09:38 AM Post #22 |
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I'll capture it tonight. |
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| Headspin | Jul 6 2008, 10:39 AM Post #23 |
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11 February, 2003 "In the UK, an opinion poll in the Times newspaper this week found that 51% of those questioned saw Tony Blair as a US poodle - although 47% trusted him to do the right thing. An overwhelming 86% wanted more time for weapons inspections, and only 25% thought enough evidence had been found to justify a war." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2747175.stm July 4, 2003 Study deals a blow to claims of anti-war bias in BBC news "The BBC was the least likely to quote official Iraqi sources, and less likely than Sky, ITV or Channel 4 News to use independent (and often sceptical) sources such as the Red Cross." "A detailed study of peak-time television news bulletins during the course of the Iraq war shows that the BBC was more reliant than any of its rivals on government and military sources" http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2003/jul/04/Iraqandthemedia.politicsandthemedia Does anyone actuallly believe that MI5 has NO presence or influence within the BBC? over the last decades the BBC always referred to the IRA as "terrorists", and the UDA as "loyalist paramilitary groups" and the LVF as an "unlawful organisation", is this honest reporting, or sucking up to the state? The BBC tows the line when it comes to critical issues of establishment and state, of which the offical 911 narrative most definitely is. Edited by Headspin, Jul 6 2008, 10:42 AM.
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| einsteen | Jul 6 2008, 03:41 PM Post #24 |
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- It's great that I downloaded that linear thermite cutter movie (the next day it was removed from the site after a J*** discussion in which I posted it) and upped it at youtube, now it has even be broadcasted at the BBC , LOL - It indeed looks like the "real" experts have the lastest word to tell. - No explanation why the BBC announced the collapse in advance. Edited by einsteen, Jul 6 2008, 03:50 PM.
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| mynameis | Jul 6 2008, 03:56 PM Post #25 |
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Linear thermite cutter movie? Removed??? Is there another place hosting it? Is this it? Edited by mynameis, Jul 6 2008, 03:57 PM.
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