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| If I am a disinformation agent; Then bring me in... | |
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| Topic Started: May 8 2008, 04:08 PM (1,948 Views) | |
| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 04:08 PM Post #1 |
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According to several of our detractors and including the implications at 911blogger, people are insinuating that we and/or the witnesses we present are actually disinformation operatives or "counter-intelligence". If that is the case, then bring us in. Contact the authorities and bring us all in. Any takers? |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | May 8 2008, 04:30 PM Post #2 |
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told you 911blogger is gatekeepers |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 04:36 PM Post #3 |
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911blogger hasn't called us disinfo. Aldo is referring to people who have posted there. |
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| Chewbacca2000 | May 8 2008, 04:39 PM Post #4 |
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Well one of you guys did say this to Dylan once so unless there’s an apology I missed right now I've lost all respect for you (disinfo agents or not), sorry: "What's the matter, Hollywood? Can't take the heat? You wack ass sell-out, two faced, fake ass piece of shit. I'm pathetic? You are so desperate to get your little fame chasing ass out there, you'd sign a deal with a guy who doesn't even believe your movie and is willing to promote SLC. Nigga, THAT is pathetic." http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=7371&st=0 Edited by Chewbacca2000, May 8 2008, 04:40 PM.
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| Domenick DiMaggio | May 8 2008, 04:39 PM Post #5 |
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its a gatekeeping site. reprehensor is a gatekeeper. hence his blocking CIT information and conducting online polls. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 04:41 PM Post #6 |
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Why are you airing out dirty laundry? It's no secret we had our differences with Dylan. Are you accusing us as being disinfo? |
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| Domenick DiMaggio | May 8 2008, 04:43 PM Post #7 |
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no hes just trying to cause division in the movement. i noticed a trend of this coming from the wookie |
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| Chewbacca2000 | May 8 2008, 04:54 PM Post #8 |
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I can't stand "Killtown" for example but I would never call him a "Nigga", especially if he was black but perhaps even more so if he was white lol. I've legitimately and quite harshly criticized his promotion of "no planes” junk and for acting like a disinfo artist, but getting personal like you did with Dylan is uncalled for unless you actually know the person and even then it’s counterproductive. Was there ever an apology for all that? |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 05:00 PM Post #9 |
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Yeah I said it. In a PRIVATE e-mail. Disinfo would have been to publically post it in order to cause further problems, tension and infighting. The person who recieved that e-mail is the one who posted it publically. There is no reason to hash up the past especially on someone else's turf. I am not concerned with your views about me. I admit I am abrasive and not very sociable. I admit I use foul and inappropriate language. It never was and should never be about me. It is about the evidence we have discovered. Why do think I was pushed to that point? Read my posts from letsroll911 or the first LC forum-they are markedly different. I was much calmer and much more friendly. I am past that point. I am all business now and I want answers and justice. We earned it. Let me ask you, do you feel you should not embrace 100% smoking gun evidence, simply because you don't like me or respect me? You should dismiss it because I dissed Dylan many moons ago in a private e-mail to him? I'm still here. I didn't retire. I didn't quit the 9/11 truth movement like Russell Pickering. I'm still here. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, May 8 2008, 05:12 PM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 05:03 PM Post #10 |
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Dude the word "nigga" was NOT the cut down in that quote! And we do know Dylan personally. We are contributors to Loose Change Final Cut and credited as such. He chose to meet us in Arlington on our first research trip. Whatever discussions we have had with Dylan personally about disagreements are none of your business. Now stop digging up old gossip that has long been water under the bridge. |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 05:03 PM Post #11 |
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Might I remind you, we are in the credits in LC final cut. We used the footage he shot, that we helped him obtain and overall we have very neutral relationship. After all, we are still posting here. |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 05:09 PM Post #12 |
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Again, that was in a private e-mail. When you are from or have been around or influenced by the urban culture, this is commonplace. I have latino and african blood flowing through me and many of black friends have never been offended. I know Dylan isn't black and I know he listens to hip hop, so I figured he would get the verbal chest-poke and non-racist connotation. But it was misinterpreted and used publically, which ultimately fanned the flames. My mistake was speaking freely and out of anger. But hey thanks for bringing it up, these are all wonderful memories which of course always help the truth movement. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, May 9 2008, 09:51 AM.
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| Chewbacca2000 | May 8 2008, 05:10 PM Post #13 |
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Good material stands on its own, that's why "no planes hit the WTC" junk gets no traction because it can't stand any scrutiny. If you've got good material (which I think for a fair part that you do) drama like this and being overly defensive will not help any genuine merit that your work has, let the evidence speak for itself by being scrutinised and tested.
Edited by Chewbacca2000, May 8 2008, 05:12 PM.
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 05:16 PM Post #14 |
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Oh it has. This isn't a film festival. This is real life. Where little kids are dying every day because of an unjust war based on a false flag event that we now have hard proof was false flag. We aren't asking you to believe us. Believe the witnesses. Contact them. Because if they are telling the truth and the plane was on the north side of the Citgo... 9/11 was inside job and Lloyd the cab driver, and many others have some explaining to do. This mindf--k can truly bring some the inside job case to Capitol Hill. Do you even understand what it is we have, Chewbacca? Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, May 9 2008, 09:51 AM.
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 05:19 PM Post #15 |
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If you didn't notice there has been a very significant campaign to marginalize and ignore ANYTHING that has to do with the Pentagon attack for quite sometime. The movement has avoided it like the plague out of confusion and of course spin and disinfo that is so prevalent surrounding this part of the attack. We took the bull by the horns to figure out FOR REAL what the people in Arlington saw. We did it, we brought back the evidence, and it proves 9/11 was an inside job. But people were so scared of the Pentagon attack that Dylan had already been pressured into being "agnostic" about a plane impact even though he clearly did not believe a plane hit the building in LC 1 & 2. He has never publicly switched on this position but tried to appease both sides with FC. Some applauded him for it and some think it watered down his effort. Regardless we are still credited and we have been pumping out NEW evidence and continuing our investigation ever since. We keep getting validation over and over and over. Yes we have an uphill battle because people are afraid of the Pentagon attack. But attention will only grow because WE WILL NOT STOP in our tireless quest to expose this deception. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, May 8 2008, 05:21 PM.
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 05:26 PM Post #16 |
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You got any blogs dedicated to tearing apart your hands-on work and calling you "disinformation" and "counter-intelligence"???? I can think of 3 right now. We got more than that. If you could only walk in our shoes for a day you would get it. "Drama" like this is going to exist as long as I have breath in my lungs. I will not let some anonymous and suspicious newcomers throw dirt on our names and the work we've accomplished. This thread is a statement. If you're tired of seeing posts like this, don't click them. If you're tired of our claims, then contact your gov't rep and have them contact an organization that has testimony from eyewitnesses that prove 9/11 was an inside job. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, May 8 2008, 05:31 PM.
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| Chewbacca2000 | May 8 2008, 05:31 PM Post #17 |
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Yea I've seen the film and I think that the eyewitness testimony is powerful evidence that does contradict the "official" flight path. You guys need to concentrate on highlighting that and not take too much offense to anything by again letting the evidence speak for itself. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 05:49 PM Post #18 |
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If you realize that then you should put all the gossip, drama, and personal crap behind you and focus on the evidence yourself. As I said....we are battling a very organized campaign to ignore the Pentagon. We have no choice but to break down doors with this info and we will continue to. And I'm not talking about the movement. I'm talking about the media and authorities. We HAVE the evidence. We HAVE the proof. Because of this we can confidently assert these facts to the media and authorities and you can too since you have ALSO seen the evidence. We work on this stuff every day chewy. We aren't here for forum drama and the body of work we present proves it. |
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| JFK | May 8 2008, 06:01 PM Post #19 |
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Yeah, he can take the issue to the Queen. 
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| JFK | May 8 2008, 06:05 PM Post #20 |
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BTW, have you guys seen this ? http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=3687941#post3687941 |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | May 8 2008, 06:32 PM Post #21 |
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So what? Bobert stalks every post we ever make. http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/miscellanious/bobertcropped.jpg |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 06:38 PM Post #22 |
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Have now. Nothing new. Typical cowardly attacks from deranged obsessoids from the safety of their cult. BTW, have you guys seen this?  |
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| Aldo Marquis CIT | May 8 2008, 06:51 PM Post #23 |
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To give you an idea of how deranged the mind of a JREFer is, here is the actual exchange between the OP of that JREF thread and myself. This individual has claimed that I "threatened his child" based on this exchange. He still to this day posts this accusation based on the following and Jref allows it even though they had been corrected on it many times...   Tell me how the "authorities" would fit into my threat? Could it have anything to do with "having his info too". Was this not an attempt to tell him to get over it, "grow up" and "move on"? Or was it a threat against his child? Here you can see where he edited the quote and put it in his signature to reflect a supposed threat...  And people wonder why we are so sensitive with this "drama". With stuff like this floating around for people to read while you are trying to promote monumental evidence, it would make anyone concerned. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, May 8 2008, 06:54 PM.
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| jthomas | May 8 2008, 09:27 PM Post #24 |
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Personally, I am looking forward to the day in the not too distant future when both Craig and Aldo are on their knees apologizing to the American people. |
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| Citizen Pawn | May 8 2008, 10:15 PM Post #25 |
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Personally, the people that claim others act like 'agents' are the ones that strikingly have the strongest traits and symptoms...of an 'agent'. C.I.T. I personally don't think you guys are agents. The thought itself is absurd. |
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