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| Craig Ranke "One on One" w/ John Bursill | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 12 2009, 01:17 PM (593 Views) | |
| Paul Tassopulos | Oct 12 2009, 01:17 PM Post #1 |
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Craig Ranke challenges John Bursill Original Concept for “Ultimate Combat Arena” [Editor's Note : The move to "The Lounge" appears to have changed the title of this thread to "Moved: Craig Ranke "One on One" w/ John Bursill". This edit was to change the title back to my original one.] Edited by Paul Tassopulos, Oct 24 2009, 09:50 AM.
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| Lin Kuei | Oct 12 2009, 05:22 PM Post #2 |
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I personally don't believe the likening of debate to combat is a good idea, most especially when the subject being discussed is extremely important and sensitive. It just seems a little inappropriate if you ask me. John Bursill is one of the most actively contributing figures in the Australian 9/11 truth movement, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for him and all that he has done here in oz. He is also a licensed aircraft engineer who works on airliners for Qantas. Likewise I have a lot of respect for Craig and the work he has done highlighting the many witnesses who report a flight path other than that which was officially reported of the alleged AA77 on its approach to the Pentagon on 9/11. In my opinion the north side evidence has become a huge part of investigating, understanding, and revising, what happened in Arlington that fateful day. John has reservations about the evidence CIT has gathered and presented, he follows the path of Wolsey and Hoffman. Whether he has actually looked at the evidence exhaustively, or whether he is following the supposed 'precautionary principle' in favor of sticking to the evidence at the WTC, or whether he is just under pressure from others who hold the power to sway opinion within the truth movement - I am not sure. |
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| JFK | Oct 12 2009, 05:41 PM Post #3 |
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What I'd like to know is why this is in "Breaking News" ? I could understand that choice if it was hosted on the O'Reilly factor and broadcast to millions of people, but not when it is a debate on a forum. |
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| Lin Kuei | Oct 12 2009, 06:04 PM Post #4 |
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Yeah totally right there JFK. Moved to the lounge. |
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| Craig Ranke CIT | Oct 13 2009, 05:18 PM Post #5 |
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If you haven't noticed Wolsey and Hoffman have launched a literal personal discredit campaign against us while blatantly and openly accusing us of "disinfo", in other words, accomplices to the crime. If Bursill follows that path that is a serious issue. This is not a matter of simple disagreement between fellow truth seekers. They can disagree with me until the cows come home and I wouldn't bat an eye. It's the direct attacks and deliberate attempts to marginalize, minimize, obfuscate, and cast doubt on this conclusive evidence proving 9/11 was an inside job that we respond to. Bursill did not act appropriately when presented with the opportunity to discuss this information with us at 911oz. He has made other unjustified statements about us in the past elsewhere. What's sad is that attacks on CIT are so commonplace that they have become accepted as the norm and are therefore easily dismissed or forgiven. Just think how people would react to us if we launched an unprovoked personal discredit campaign against other members of the movement as Wolsey has done to us! We've been forced to deal with this kind of nonsense since day one from people like Pickering yet somehow we're always framed as the aggressors. Pickering, Farmer, Larson, Arabesque, and now Wolsey. Note how 4 out of 5 of them have basically disappeared in defeat while each one has picked up where the other has left off all the while CIT keeps coming strong with new evidence and growing. This isn't a coincidence or string of flukes. It's because we are right and we have the evidence to prove it. Bottom line the attacks on us are entirely unjust and the behavior we have had to endure would not be tolerated coming from us or anyone else for that matter yet for some reason it's accepted or considered no big deal when it's against us. Edited by Craig Ranke CIT, Oct 13 2009, 05:20 PM.
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| Paul Tassopulos | Oct 14 2009, 05:05 PM Post #6 |
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Lin Kuei, as I said on Craig Ranke, John Bursill, and the "Ultimate Combat Arena" on 9/11oz Forum, here's where I got the idea for it: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Lin+Kuei Edited by Paul Tassopulos, Oct 14 2009, 05:05 PM.
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| Paul Tassopulos | Oct 14 2009, 06:07 PM Post #7 |
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JFK, your speech and Lin Kuei’s action are beyond my ability to address in this context. We would need a phone conversation for that at least. I’m certainly willing to do that if either of you want to. Short of that, I would ask you both to look at what’s in front of you and what’s inside of you with all your mind and heart. If you look long enough in this manner, I think you’ll see what I’m talking about. Edited by Paul Tassopulos, Oct 14 2009, 11:12 PM.
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| Paul Tassopulos | Oct 23 2009, 04:48 PM Post #8 |
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 The 400 by 300 pixel image above is linked to the full size 1034 by 778 image just completed. For view clarification, the image top left is from the Citizen Investigation Team Forum. The image left center and the text at the bottom is from truthaction.org Forum. The topic was deleted shortly after publication there. My first exposure to this forum and what was going in there in regards to all this was on the Visibility 9-11 Welcomes Researcher Jim Hoffman thread. The image top right is from Craig Ranke challenges John Bursill on the new forum I'm making. Many events in this situation occured on 911oz Forum. Thanks to the owners and admin of Loose Change Forums for letting me speak and show my work here. My passion for participating in forums, making forums, and internet culture related art began here about ten months ago. To me, this is the most important 9/11 Truth site. This is the forum of forums. This is the greatest one of them all. Edited by Paul Tassopulos, Oct 24 2009, 10:29 AM.
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