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Jesus returns!; wearing a skull and crossbones belt
Topic Started: Oct 12 2009, 05:32 AM (748 Views)
Headspin	Oct 12 2009, 05:32 AM Post #1
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	http://www.ukcolumn.org/2009/10/12/david-de-rothschild-jesus/
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skunkrider	Oct 12 2009, 10:17 AM Post #2
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	I like the message of his action though.. floating through the Pacific on a couple of tons of plastic.. awesome! If I had to chose between solving 9/11 and getting rid of the oil industry and plastics, guess what, I'd chose the latter. Use glass, everybody!
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Headspin	Oct 12 2009, 10:52 AM Post #3
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	how would you make glass without the oil industry?
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skunkrider	Oct 12 2009, 11:01 AM Post #4
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	Headspin Oct 12 2009, 10:52 AM how would you make glass without the oil industry? are you kidding? please elaborate. last time I checked glass was made from molten stones, in this case: sand. glass has been manufactured centuries before anybody thought of plastic.
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Headspin	Oct 12 2009, 11:06 AM Post #5
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	you need a fuel to heat it. what fuel do you propose instead of oil, gas or coal? that was my point. if you get rid of the oil industry you'll kill more people than were killed in 911.
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skunkrider	Oct 12 2009, 11:28 AM Post #6
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	Headspin Oct 12 2009, 11:06 AM you need a fuel to heat it. what fuel do you propose instead of oil, gas or coal? that was my point. if you get rid of the oil industry you'll kill more people than were killed in 911. oil, gas or coil? are you kidding me (again)? the world could be run multiple times on regenerative energies, with which one could produce heat and create glass. also, most products can be easily replaced with hemp and other natural fibers, hell, cars will run on hemp oil! the only reason why we're still using plastics is because it's such a huge profit for all involved governments and companies, while it's a horror for the environment and will come back to haunt us. no disrespect meant whatsoever, headspin, but I'm surprised right now... Edited by skunkrider, Oct 12 2009, 11:28 AM.
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gunplumber	Oct 12 2009, 12:27 PM Post #7
Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #1,422 Joined: 10/08/09	Skunkrider, Just think of all the great things made of plastic-Glock Pistol Frames, Zip Ties, Breast Implants, DVD's... All kidding aside, there is an awesome song you would love by Don Henley called "Workin' It". Appropriately it's from the album "Inside Job". Google the lyrics or do a search on one of the free music sites and you'll find it. It pretty much sums up your thoughts on the environment, oil, the whole mess. gunplumber Edited by gunplumber, Oct 12 2009, 12:48 PM.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 12 2009, 03:55 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,966 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	skunkrider Oct 12 2009, 10:17 AM I like the message of his action though.. i dont like anything in this world that originates from the rothschilds.......because when you go down the rabbit hole guess you find living at the bottom.....
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noeffects	Oct 12 2009, 04:52 PM Post #9
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	skunkrider the world could be run multiple times on regenerative energies, with which one could produce heat and create glass.
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noeffects	Oct 12 2009, 06:31 PM Post #10
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	--link ALEX JONES: "The polar icecaps of Mars are receding at several miles a year, much faster than ours and that the moons of Saturn and Jupiter are melting, in fact several of their moons were ice and are now liquid seas - how are SUV's causing that David Rothschild? ROTHSCHILD: "Because those planets are closer to the sun, my friend." ALEX JONES: "No, Jupiter and Saturn are not closer to the sun and neither is Mars." Rothschild then quickly changes the subject and when the point is raised again later in the show, he makes no effort to correct himself.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 12 2009, 06:57 PM Post #11
Posts: 1,966 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	hes a rothschild. of course mars and saturn and jupiter are closer to the sun. if a rothschild tells you that then it is fact. after all this is still their planet.
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skunkrider	Oct 13 2009, 05:24 AM Post #12
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	what's up with you guys? only because he's an Elitist and plays a major role in most NWO conspiracy theories, doesn't make him wrong on a right subject. and to compare saturn's and jupiter's moons to our planet is so ludicrous, I want to smack Alex Jones every time I read it again their moons are not molten, the water is not molten on those moons, this is hogwash, you're (deliberately?) mixing up facts and fiction. of course those planets are further out from the sun, only Mercury and Venus are closer than Earth is. but yeah, stick to the person if his deeds don't allow for criticism. all of us call it ad-hominem-attack, why do we lower ourselves to that level? in the west every individual has and claims the right for their own car, the bigger the better. your politicians and the industry fucked you from behind when they made you believe that hybrid cars change a thing, or have any less worse impact on the environment than your Mustangs and RAMs. It's bullshit. If mankind really wanted, we could renaturalize all the lost forest grounds, we could produce abundant regenerative energies everywhere, with which to power cars, trucks, motorbikes, planes, ships, factories, everything. we could clean up the garbage from the oceans, filter enough water to help Africa (both Europe and the US owe Africa everything), and finally introduce and learn to live with a socially correct, non-sadist economy system and thrive as a whole. but all you guys nag about is stuff one can't change. freeing the world from plastics is more important than sorting out any conspiracy there may be. period.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 13 2009, 06:42 AM Post #13
Posts: 1,966 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	i don't know man.... if satan got on television tomorrow and said 9/11 was an inside job and bring the troops home i wouldn't suddenly rally behind the prince of darkness. to each their own i suppose.........
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Headspin	Oct 13 2009, 07:28 AM Post #14
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	skunkrider Oct 13 2009, 05:24 AM what's up with you guys? only because he's an Elitist and plays a major role in most NWO conspiracy theories, doesn't make him wrong on a right subject. and to compare saturn's and jupiter's moons to our planet is so ludicrous, I want to smack Alex Jones every time I read it again their moons are not molten, the water is not molten on those moons, this is hogwash, you're (deliberately?) mixing up facts and fiction. of course those planets are further out from the sun, only Mercury and Venus are closer than Earth is. but yeah, stick to the person if his deeds don't allow for criticism. all of us call it ad-hominem-attack, why do we lower ourselves to that level? in the west every individual has and claims the right for their own car, the bigger the better. your politicians and the industry fucked you from behind when they made you believe that hybrid cars change a thing, or have any less worse impact on the environment than your Mustangs and RAMs. It's bullshit. If mankind really wanted, we could renaturalize all the lost forest grounds, we could produce abundant regenerative energies everywhere, with which to power cars, trucks, motorbikes, planes, ships, factories, everything. we could clean up the garbage from the oceans, filter enough water to help Africa (both Europe and the US owe Africa everything), and finally introduce and learn to live with a socially correct, non-sadist economy system and thrive as a whole. but all you guys nag about is stuff one can't change. freeing the world from plastics is more important than sorting out any conspiracy there may be. period. The institutions and forces that cause "africa" problems are largely controlled by the rothschilds. Global warming is just another scam being used to centralise power in the hands of the rothschilds and other delites in the form of carbon trading which amounts to rationing the money you can spend, it doesn't matter how much money you have if you can't spend it, its another level of money on top of money, or a tax on spending money and the rothschilds and other delites will be brokering these licences, or more aptly put - skimming it. this will ensure that "africa" and other unfortunates (most of us actually) will be pushed into severe austerity in this new age of green neo-feudalism where carbon licenses will likely be corruptly plundered from the third world in the same way natural resources have been. Carbon dioxide does not heat the planet up to any catastrophic level, more carbon dioxide means more plant growth. carbon dioxide is not a cause of global warming, it is an effect of global warming - the sea gives off carbon dioxide when it is heated. Solar panels at typical 10% efficiency would require an area the size of spain to replace fossil fuel energy (top of head estimate so you might like to present something more accurate) which assumes 100% efficiency from source to point of use and the panels have to be replaced every 10-20 years. End to end the panels would be orders of magnitude greater than the area currently covered by the vehicles of the world. you might be right with your solutions, but I'm not convinced by the numbers I've looked at. Replacing the oil industry with a soviet style endeavor would just replace one monster with another monster in the hands of the few. When you take away the water, your body is 50% carbon. the intention in the mantra of "reducing carbon" is to reduce you. That's the matter with me. The green movement is a vehicle for the new world order religion, which essentially is an anti-humanist and centralist death cult and the picture of Mr Rothschild symbolises that perfectly as the christ saviour figure centered with the skull and cross bones. quite deliberate in my opinion. The road to hell is paved with good intentions as they say, and this road certainly does lead to hell for you, but not for the few. Edited by Headspin, Oct 13 2009, 07:31 AM.
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Lin Kuei	Oct 13 2009, 07:59 AM Post #15
Posts: 1,293 Group: Admins Member #5 Joined: 12/22/07	Really well put, Headspin. In the picture he's even been given what looks like a halo or light around his head, just like they do with Bush, Obama, Blair etc. In the article, it's stated Quote: He might just have a high and mighty opinion of himself. Or, maybe, he’s taking the mickey out of conspiracy theorists everywhere. Either way, there’s a message being sent. I leave it up to you to decide what that message might be. ...there sure is a message being sent... to those who 'know'. The skull and crossbones is also an occult symbol used often in freemasonry etc.
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noeffects	Oct 13 2009, 09:23 AM Post #16
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	This should lighten it up in here..RIP Carlin...
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skunkrider	Oct 13 2009, 12:55 PM Post #17
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	while I love George Carlin, he's not quite right about this one. yes, the planet will survive us. yes, 90% of all species that have ever existed are extinct. does that give us the right to live any way we like? plastics are not degradable. they'll accumulate, until they're wash up on our shores and we'll suffocate in garbage. yet everything there is (electronics, liquid containers, packaging, etc.) is made of plastics, and our western is culture is so hellbound on consumption (and therefore disposal) that sooner or later there is an end to what this planet can sustain without suffering from severe changes which in the end will prove fatal to human existence. not that I care about humans or our future (other than in a science-fictional way). and headspin: to mention only one source of energy (sunlight) while there is a vast range of possibilities to exploit natural energies (solar cells, wind energy, hydrokinetic energy, earth heat, hydrogene-engines, etc.) is a little dishonest or ignorant, if I may say so. if some catastrophic event provided human insight that we need to get away from conventional energy sources immediately, I'm sure that could be done on a global scale in less than 5 years. there are endless ways to extract energy from nature without burning fossils, but capitalism and the mere human nature will make sure that won't happen so fast. it's convenience. nothing more, nothing less. raw convenience. who cares what happens tomorrow if it works fine today? I'm no environmentalist, and I certainly don't think our environmental problems are as big as our mental ones, but it's the mere principle that makes me shout for the abolishment of plastics and the oil industry: we know how to do better in every sense of the word, why not do it?
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Headspin	Oct 13 2009, 04:03 PM Post #18
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	skunkrider Oct 13 2009, 12:55 PM plastics are not degradable. they'll accumulate, until they're wash up on our shores and we'll suffocate in garbage. or recycled. Quote: not that I care about humans or our future That's the problem with the Rothschild's green religion. David Suzuki thinks you and your children are fat maggots living in your own shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLOcZQheoE&feature=player_embedded Quote: to mention only one source of energy (sunlight) while there is a vast range of possibilities to exploit natural energies (solar cells, wind energy, hydrokinetic energy, earth heat, hydrogene-engines, etc.) is a little dishonest or ignorant, if I may say so. I would doubt that collectively they could provide energy to replace fossil fuels totally and they all come with similar technical, scale and energy setup cost as solar. Quote: if some catastrophic event provided human insight that we need to get away from conventional energy sources immediately, I'm sure that could be done on a global scale in less than 5 years. there are endless ways to extract energy from nature without burning fossils, but capitalism and the mere human nature will make sure that won't happen so fast. it's convenience. nothing more, nothing less. raw convenience. who cares what happens tomorrow if it works fine today? I'm no environmentalist, and I certainly don't think our environmental problems are as big as our mental ones, but it's the mere principle that makes me shout for the abolishment of plastics and the oil industry: we know how to do better in every sense of the word, why not do it? Freedom and profit are good motivators. Monolithic and bureaucratic control and thinking stifles ingenuity, creativity and motivation, soviet communism is a good example and would likely not have come up with the idea of converting plastic back into fuel oil: http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/a-new-way-to-turn-plastic-into-fuel/
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hiphopopotamus	Oct 13 2009, 04:15 PM Post #19
Posts: 211 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: 05/16/08	Headspin Oct 13 2009, 07:28 AM Carbon dioxide does not heat the planet up to any catastrophic level, more carbon dioxide means more plant growth. carbon dioxide is not a cause of global warming, it is an effect of global warming - the sea gives off carbon dioxide when it is heated. Not true at all. Try taking some science courses at your local community college rather than getting your information from partisan sources. Venus is over 700 degrees fahrenheit, around the same temperature the self-cleaning function new ovens heat up to. Though venus is closer to the sun, its only a marginal difference and doesn't account for the ~600 degree difference. You know what does? Green house gasses like CO2. And no, more CO2 does not mean more plant growth. Nitrogen in the soil is a much bigger factor in plant growth. Plus you can't really have net positive plant growth with the rates of deforestation going on in the world today. I have no clue what you mean by the ocean giving off CO2 as the ambient temperature rises, perhaps you could elaborate? It had been my understanding that the complete opposite was true, in that warmer water causes blue-green algae blooms which absorb massive amounts of carbon dioxide The simple fact is no peer reviewed scientific journal has published a piece refuting that global warming is a man made problem. Now, there are articles that differ on the amount of damage manmade global warming is doing, and I'm inclined to agree with one article I read (I can't remember the details of the researcher or publication sadly) where it is posited the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere from human causes accounts for a ~2 degree increase in temperature. Not enough to kill everyone everywhere, but enough to cause some serious issues near the equator where the temperature will be too high fro the ground to effectively hold any moisture (and thus causing mass dehydration/starvation in some pretty poor areas).
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Headspin	Oct 13 2009, 07:30 PM Post #20
Posts: 956 Group: Members Member #252 Joined: 01/31/08	hiphopopotamus Oct 13 2009, 04:15 PM Headspin Oct 13 2009, 07:28 AM Carbon dioxide does not heat the planet up to any catastrophic level, more carbon dioxide means more plant growth. carbon dioxide is not a cause of global warming, it is an effect of global warming - the sea gives off carbon dioxide when it is heated. Not true at all. Try taking some science courses at your local community college rather than getting your information from partisan sources. Try googling "temperature solubility carbon dioxide water" instead of flame baiting.
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Headspin	Oct 13 2009, 07:50 PM Post #21
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hiphopopotamus	Oct 13 2009, 08:50 PM Post #22
Posts: 211 Group: Members Member #578 Joined: 05/16/08	Once again, try getting information from nonpartisan sources or a peer reviewed journal.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 13 2009, 11:42 PM Post #23
Posts: 1,966 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	hiphopopotamus Oct 13 2009, 08:50 PM Once again, try getting information from nonpartisan sources or a peer reviewed journal. who's your nonpartisan sources?
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skunkrider	Oct 14 2009, 02:51 AM Post #24
Posts: 326 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	headspin, please show to me how and where plastics can be recycled. 'recycling' is like the 9/11 OCT, and you bought completely into it. why are litter mountains growing if we have the technical capabilities to recycle plastics?
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Q	Oct 14 2009, 04:52 AM Post #25
A Higher Evolution Posts: 519 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	skunkrider Oct 14 2009, 02:51 AM headspin, please show to me how and where plastics can be recycled. 'recycling' is like the 9/11 OCT, and you bought completely into it. why are litter mountains growing if we have the technical capabilities to recycle plastics? I do agree that insufficient recycling is occurring, even with metals. When will we see a mono-plastic PC Keyboard? PET (used for most soda bottles) is ideal. Depending on the thickness, it can be a switching membrane, a key "spring", or even an actual keytop. Oh dear! My keyboard has died! Chuck it in the vat, and seperate out the metal tracking ready for the next version of the keyboard--preferably one that's designed for people who actually type. Current keyboards use at least 3 different plastics, and the manufacturing quality is shite.



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