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Hoodwinked at Shanksville: Fairy Tail
Topic Started: Apr 24 2008, 11:30 PM (1,974 Views)
Killtown
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tharg
May 14 2008, 06:12 PM
1) The
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faint "Wile E. Coyote" impression of itself in the grass
is a lovely way to describe part of the scene of the deaths of the passengers of flight 93.
I hope you feel real proud.

2) No killtown, its generally accepted that flight 93 impacted in that crater, therefore unless you have other evidence to the contrary, so did the landing gear.
Can you produce any evidence of it not being found there?

3) If not, then you are just playing sick games with dead people and their families.
Why do that Killtown?
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Now, answer my question (unless you are scared to).

2) YOUR claim, YOU prove. Put up, or shut up.

3) I.E.: "I can't debunk your claims, so I have to resort to JFUCK tactic #2: play the 'you're insensitive' card."

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tharg

Provide some evidence that the landing gear wasnt in the crater.
Otherwise I will just have to presume it was.
That would be the logical place for the landing gear to impact and unless you have secret evidence of it being found elsewhere having bounced out, then you are wasting your time with this line of argument.
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May 15 2008, 02:24 PM
Provide some evidence that the landing gear wasnt in the crater.
Otherwise I will just have to presume it was.
That would be the logical place for the landing gear to impact and unless you have secret evidence of it being found elsewhere having bounced out, then you are wasting your time with this line of argument.
To not derail this thread, back up your landing gear claim here: http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/278097/

Now, please describe your theory how 93's vert stab struck that soft patch of soil so hard that it essentially obliterated off of it, but it only left a faint near-perfect impression of itself.
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Skeptics, do you concede the vert tail mark in the ground was staged and no 757 tail section hit the ground there?
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Hello, skeptics? Can't admit defeat?
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Oh Skeptics?

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Edited by Killtown, May 30 2008, 03:22 AM.
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Do skeptics concede that a 757's tail section can't crash, leave a faint near-perfect imprint of itself in the grass, then disappear?
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Grasshoppers ? :blink:

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noeffects

That video is too good . that song is catchy as well
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If you can't explain it then it didn't happen? Is that what passes for logic in the truther cult?
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Exactly what are the scientific and objective data for defining "faint" and "soft"?
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noeffects
Jul 8 2008, 02:00 PM
That video is too good . that song is catchy as well
My, thank you. :$

It is until you hear it 1,000 from editing the video. ;)
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Jul 9 2008, 04:34 AM
Exactly what are the scientific and objective data for defining "faint" and "soft"?
Oh great, another skeptic troll.

So tell us "open minded/unbiased" skeptic, how did the tail disappear after striking at the reported 580mph but only leave an impression of it in the grass as if someone just lowered the tail down and it made a near-exact impression of itself from its own weight?
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Killtown
Jul 10 2008, 01:59 AM
x1975
Jul 9 2008, 04:34 AM
Exactly what are the scientific and objective data for defining "faint" and "soft"?
Oh great, another skeptic troll.

So tell us "open minded/unbiased" skeptic, how did the tail disappear after striking at the reported 580mph but only leave an impression of it in the grass as if someone just lowered the tail down and it made a near-exact impression of itself from its own weight?
580 MPH????? I think it was 482 or 484? How deep is that "impression in the grass"? What do you mean disappear??? If I take your computer and smash it with a sledge hammer into little pieces do you then think it "disappeared"?
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Jul 10 2008, 09:17 PM
1) 580 MPH????? I think it was 482 or 484?


2) How deep is that "impression in the grass"?

3) What do you mean disappear??? If I take your computer and smash it with a sledge hammer into little pieces do you then think it "disappeared"?
1) Think again:

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"the aircraft plowed into an empty field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, at 580 miles per hour" - CNN & 9/11 Commission

"The aircraft struck the earth at 580 mph outside Shanksville" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


2) It didn't penetrate through the ground. Don't you agree?

3) OK, show me "little pieces" of the tail section. There is a rubber tire burning on top of the crater, so surely a noticeable piece of the tail survived too.
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Jul 11 2008, 11:48 AM
x1975
Jul 10 2008, 09:17 PM
1) 580 MPH????? I think it was 482 or 484?


2) How deep is that "impression in the grass"?

3) What do you mean disappear??? If I take your computer and smash it with a sledge hammer into little pieces do you then think it "disappeared"?
1) Think again:

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"the aircraft plowed into an empty field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, at 580 miles per hour" - CNN & 9/11 Commission

"The aircraft struck the earth at 580 mph outside Shanksville" - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


2) It didn't penetrate through the ground. Don't you agree?

3) OK, show me "little pieces" of the tail section. There is a rubber tire burning on top of the crater, so surely a noticeable piece of the tail survived too.
What was the speed as indicated by the FDR? 580?

So if I can't show which little piece of debris in the photos is from the tail section then you think no plane crashed there - that's fairly childish.

As for the tire - rubber tires don't break apart upon impact.
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