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Open 9/11 discussion at NCM / NSA
Topic Started: Sep 25 2009, 10:10 PM (481 Views)
ULTIMA1	Sep 25 2009, 10:10 PM Post #1
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	I am putting out this notice to see how many people would be interested in having an open 9/11 disccusion at the National Cryptologic Museum at NSA. PLease respond if you would like to be a part of this meeting so i can set up a date for the conference room. I will host the meeting and also be in charge of security. PLEASE POST THIS NOTE IN OTHER 9/11 FORUMS LIKE ATS AND JERF.
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scott75	Sep 28 2009, 05:54 AM Post #2
Posts: 152 Group: Members Member #827 Joined: 09/05/08	ULTIMA1 Sep 25 2009, 10:10 PM I am putting out this notice to see how many people would be interested in having an open 9/11 disccusion at the National Cryptologic Museum at NSA. PLease respond if you would like to be a part of this meeting so i can set up a date for the conference room. I will host the meeting and also be in charge of security. PLEASE POST THIS NOTE IN OTHER 9/11 FORUMS LIKE ATS AND JERF. Um... NSA? As in National Security Agency? Call me paranoid, but... I'm not sure I'd want to go there even if I could afford it :-p.
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ULTIMA1	Sep 28 2009, 06:17 AM Post #3
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	scott75 Sep 28 2009, 05:54 AM Um... NSA? As in National Security Agency? Call me paranoid, but... I'm not sure I'd want to go there even if I could afford it :-p. Yes, Well you would not be actually going to NSA but the National Cryptologic Musuem next to it. I was just seeing if we could actually get any believers that would want to go have a discussion about actual facts and evidence. Edited by ULTIMA1, Sep 28 2009, 06:19 AM.
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scott75	Sep 29 2009, 08:59 AM Post #4
Posts: 152 Group: Members Member #827 Joined: 09/05/08	ULTIMA1 Sep 28 2009, 06:17 AM scott75 Sep 28 2009, 05:54 AM Um... NSA? As in National Security Agency? Call me paranoid, but... I'm not sure I'd want to go there even if I could afford it :-p. Yes, Well you would not be actually going to NSA but the National Cryptologic Musuem next to it. I was just seeing if we could actually get any believers that would want to go have a discussion about actual facts and evidence. Ok. The thing is, I don't see why we have to meet in person, regardless of location. I, for one, don't have a lot of money to be travelling about with. But travelling online is pretty economical ;-)
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ULTIMA1	Oct 2 2009, 03:43 AM Post #5
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	scott75 Sep 29 2009, 08:59 AM ULTIMA1 Sep 28 2009, 06:17 AM scott75 Sep 28 2009, 05:54 AM Um... NSA? As in National Security Agency? Call me paranoid, but... I'm not sure I'd want to go there even if I could afford it :-p. Yes, Well you would not be actually going to NSA but the National Cryptologic Musuem next to it. I was just seeing if we could actually get any believers that would want to go have a discussion about actual facts and evidence. Ok. The thing is, I don't see why we have to meet in person, regardless of location. I, for one, don't have a lot of money to be travelling about with. But travelling online is pretty economical ;-) Well a couple reasons for meeting in person. 1. To have a fair and open discussion and present facts and evidence. 2. Meeting in person to discuss each others views. How far is it for you to travel to Maryland? As far as being paranoid NSA was one of the intell agencies that warned of something involving hijackings was going to happen. Also NSA has documents that show reasonable doubt in the official story. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 2 2009, 03:45 AM.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 2 2009, 06:08 AM Post #6
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roundhead	Oct 2 2009, 09:36 AM Post #7
Posts: 39 Group: Members Member #781 Joined: 08/01/08	I followed Ultima1's posts very closely on Jref when he posted over there. Of course, everybody has an opinion. Here is mine...i wouldnt trust the guy as far as i could throw him...............
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ULTIMA1	Oct 2 2009, 01:18 PM Post #8
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	roundhead Oct 2 2009, 09:36 AM I followed Ultima1's posts very closely on Jref when he posted over there. Of course, everybody has an opinion. Here is mine...i wouldnt trust the guy as far as i could throw him............... Sounds to me just like another excuse not to face the facts and evidence that shows reasonable doubt in the official story. Funny how others with basic intelligence and common sense figured out who i am and who i work for but most of the people on JERF could not.
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Ed Ward MD	Oct 3 2009, 08:18 PM Post #9
Posts: 39 Group: Members Member #1,401 Joined: 09/29/09	roundhead Oct 2 2009, 09:36 AM I followed Ultima1's posts very closely on Jref when he posted over there. Of course, everybody has an opinion. Here is mine...i wouldnt trust the guy as far as i could throw him............... Wouldn't P on him if he was on fire... But, call me right away if he is drowning. Ed
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JFK	Oct 3 2009, 08:25 PM Post #10
Posts: 4,212 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Do I need to start issuing warnings ? Or shall I just begin locking threads and issuing bans ? No Tolerance of Personal Attacks
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ULTIMA1	Oct 3 2009, 09:13 PM Post #11
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Ed Ward MD Oct 3 2009, 08:18 PM Wouldn't P on him if he was on fire... But, call me right away if he is drowning. You have to attack and insult people who do not agree with you and can show facts and evidence that disagree with what you have been told to believe. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 3 2009, 09:14 PM.
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Ed Ward MD	Oct 6 2009, 03:26 AM Post #12
Posts: 39 Group: Members Member #1,401 Joined: 09/29/09	JFK Oct 3 2009, 08:25 PM Do I need to start issuing warnings ? Or shall I just begin locking threads and issuing bans ? No Tolerance of Personal Attacks Seemed to have alot of tolerance for someone saying I'm not an MD and 3 other posts of BS. At any rate, let me rephrase. The gov knows who each alias on this board is despite any aliases, but they don't have recent pictures of you. So by all means, lets scurry down to the NSA so they don't even have to leave their desks to get current photos and bugs of everyone. If I'm going to a meeting where this murderous government is being discused, I at least want the scumbags to have to drive across town. Now, I don't give a crapola. I use my name and I stand by my information. My picture is on the net. So if the meeting was worth a crapola in some kind of real accomplishment, then yeah, let's have a meeting. So let me give my RSVP - No Firetruckin way I'm coming to a meeting at the NSA for a 'meat' and 'grate' at any Ultima set up meeting. Thanks for leaving my stuff up. Thanks for the awesome reception for proven lies about the MAIN scam BS of "Traces of Tritium" so there could not have been a NUKE. 1,092 TUs = Traces is a murderous lie. The main evidence for NO-NUKES is shown for the murderous lie that it is by people that knew it was a lie - Hello, Muon physicist working with pCi/nCi/ every day and doesn't recognized 3.5 nCi = 3,500 pCi as soon as he sees it? It's a simple 3 place decimal move. He doesn't know ho many pCi = 1 TU on sight. He must know it around 3 or 3.2pCi = 1 TU. So right away he can see 3,500 pCi = more than 1,000 TUs. He knows 20 TUs is the top end of environmental levels and that over 1,000 TUs CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES. Lock it if you want, Alex Jones locked his PP one. I've pretty much done what I wanted. Make sure the Truth was exposed to a group that really doesn't seem to give a crapola about truth. The Loose Change Latest Cut must be mega factual based on its Forums/Admin, people really looking to examine proven evidence - LOL. Ed Ward, MD Edited by Ed Ward MD, Oct 6 2009, 03:49 AM.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 7 2009, 03:38 AM Post #13
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Ed Ward MD Oct 6 2009, 03:26 AM JFK Oct 3 2009, 08:25 PM At any rate, let me rephrase. The gov knows who each alias on this board is despite any aliases, but they don't have recent pictures of you. So by all means, lets scurry down to the NSA so they don't even have to leave their desks to get current photos and bugs of everyone. If I'm going to a meeting where this murderous government is being discused, I at least want the scumbags to have to drive across town. Now, I don't give a crapola. I use my name and I stand by my information. My picture is on the net. So if the meeting was worth a crapola in some kind of real accomplishment, then yeah, let's have a meeting. So let me give my RSVP - No Firetruckin way I'm coming to a meeting at the NSA for a 'meat' and 'grate' at any Ultima set up meeting. Gee, talking about sounding like a conspiracy thoerist. Are you really so scared and paranoid that you cannot even come to a meeting to show and share your facts with the facts that others have? I guess your facts are not as good as you keep stating they are. If you believe in your facts so much then you should not be afraid to share them a in a open setting. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 7 2009, 03:42 AM.
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JFK	Oct 7 2009, 10:50 AM Post #14
Posts: 4,212 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	ULTIMA1 Oct 7 2009, 03:38 AM Ed Ward MD Oct 6 2009, 03:26 AM JFK Oct 3 2009, 08:25 PM At any rate, let me rephrase. The gov knows who each alias on this board is despite any aliases, but they don't have recent pictures of you. So by all means, lets scurry down to the NSA so they don't even have to leave their desks to get current photos and bugs of everyone. If I'm going to a meeting where this murderous government is being discused, I at least want the scumbags to have to drive across town. Now, I don't give a crapola. I use my name and I stand by my information. My picture is on the net. So if the meeting was worth a crapola in some kind of real accomplishment, then yeah, let's have a meeting. So let me give my RSVP - No Firetruckin way I'm coming to a meeting at the NSA for a 'meat' and 'grate' at any Ultima set up meeting. Gee, talking about sounding like a conspiracy thoerist. Are you really so scared and paranoid that you cannot even come to a meeting to show and share your facts with the facts that others have? I guess your facts are not as good as you keep stating they are. If you believe in your facts so much then you should not be afraid to share them a in a open setting. Do you wish ro re-edit that and attribute the quote to the person who actually typed that, or do you have a habit of putting words into peoples mouths Ultima1 ? Edited by JFK, Oct 7 2009, 10:51 AM.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 8 2009, 03:19 AM Post #15
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	JFK Oct 7 2009, 10:50 AM Do you wish ro re-edit that and attribute the quote to the person who actually typed that, or do you have a habit of putting words into peoples mouths Ultima1 ? Oh sorry abou that JFK, i had the wrong quote. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 8 2009, 03:21 AM.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 9 2009, 03:23 AM Post #16
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Ed Ward MD Oct 6 2009, 03:26 AM At any rate, let me rephrase. The gov knows who each alias on this board is despite any aliases, but they don't have recent pictures of you. So by all means, lets scurry down to the NSA so they don't even have to leave their desks to get current photos and bugs of everyone. If I'm going to a meeting where this murderous government is being discused, I at least want the scumbags to have to drive across town. Now, I don't give a crapola. I use my name and I stand by my information. My picture is on the net. So if the meeting was worth a crapola in some kind of real accomplishment, then yeah, let's have a meeting. So let me give my RSVP - No Firetruckin way I'm coming to a meeting at the NSA for a 'meat' and 'grate' at any Ultima set up meeting. Thanks for leaving my stuff up. Thanks for the awesome reception for proven lies about the MAIN scam BS of "Traces of Tritium" so there could not have been a NUKE. 1,092 TUs = Traces is a murderous lie. The main evidence for NO-NUKES is shown for the murderous lie that it is by people that knew it was a lie - Hello, Muon physicist working with pCi/nCi/ every day and doesn't recognized 3.5 nCi = 3,500 pCi as soon as he sees it? It's a simple 3 place decimal move. He doesn't know ho many pCi = 1 TU on sight. He must know it around 3 or 3.2pCi = 1 TU. So right away he can see 3,500 pCi = more than 1,000 TUs. He knows 20 TUs is the top end of environmental levels and that over 1,000 TUs CAN NOT BE CALLED TRACES. Lock it if you want, Alex Jones locked his PP one. I've pretty much done what I wanted. Make sure the Truth was exposed to a group that really doesn't seem to give a crapola about truth. The Loose Change Latest Cut must be mega factual based on its Forums/Admin, people really looking to examine proven evidence - LOL. Ed Ward, MD Gee, talking about sounding like a conspiracy thoerist. Are you really so scared and paranoid that you cannot even come to a meeting to show and share your facts with the facts that others have? I guess your facts are not as good as you keep stating they are. If you believe in your facts so much then you should not be afraid to share them a in a open setting. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 9 2009, 03:24 AM.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 22 2009, 11:33 AM Post #17
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	BUMPED, Anyone interested in a discussion?
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Flippy	Oct 23 2009, 11:39 AM Post #18
Posts: 577 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	Is this yours Ed? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=Doctor+Ed+Ward&aq=f&oq=&aqi= http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/arc_ward.htm One of the subjects on the page: BURN America! & All Nations! Or is this you? http://www.newswithviews.com/family/family1.htm Quote: IT'S ALMOST OFFICIAL; ABUSE U.S. COURT'S FOR POWER AND PROFIT. Or are you the Dentist Ed Ward??? This is most certainly yours: http://www.rense.com/general77/geddno.htm Didn't find a picture though like you said: Quote: I use my name and I stand by my information. My picture is on the net. From now on, I want my forum title to be Dr. Joseph Smith. See how anybody can play the google doctor name and assume online identity game? Since you're so forthcoming with your name... why don't you provide us the picture? Since your science is proof of all of us being liars (since the 9/11 truth movement relies solely on the information regarding thermate and you are to ignorant to see all of the other anomalies) surely you wouldn't mind linking your practice here. Edited by Flippy, Oct 23 2009, 11:39 AM.
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Flippy	Oct 23 2009, 11:44 AM Post #19
Posts: 577 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	Oh wait... is this one yours? http://edwardmd.wordpress.com/ Quote: The 911 WTC “Traces of Tritium” Lie Is Obstruction of Justice by Accessories to Murder Later in the page and I really like this one: Quote: Collection of old NWO Quotes But nah, 9/11 truth has not been screaming about the NWO for 8 years... For being so against us, you sure seem to agree with us on quite a few points. Or, is that still not you?
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Flippy	Oct 23 2009, 11:48 AM Post #20
Posts: 577 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	Oh Ed... care to add a section on your page about the independently verified NOC witnesses? I think I see your motive... You're one of those guys who hates 9/11 truth because you think we're a bunch of lefties that blame this all on Bush. At the same time you want to scream about Obama creating a socialist nation, or carrying out the end game plan of the NWO. See here is the difference. Most, if not ALL of us, see the wrongs in both of these political parties. Just so happens that Bush and his band of criminals were IN office when 9/11 happened. Sorry for hijacking your thread Ultima. Just trying to figure out who this Doctor is and what his motives are. Surely they are not seeking 9/11 truth.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 23 2009, 01:49 PM Post #21
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Flippy Oct 23 2009, 11:48 AM Sorry for hijacking your thread Ultima. Just trying to figure out who this Doctor is and what his motives are. Surely they are not seeking 9/11 truth. No need to apoligize. I am just wondering why Ed is so scared and paranoid about being at the museum beside NSA. Maybe it is becasue he is afraid to ceom to an open forum and have his beloved official story torn to shreds in front of him. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 23 2009, 01:52 PM.
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BoneZ	Oct 23 2009, 03:36 PM Post #22
Posts: 723 Group: Members Member #269 Joined: 02/03/08	Ed Ward MD Oct 6 2009, 03:26 AM Lock it if you want, Alex Jones locked his PP one. I've pretty much done what I wanted. Make sure the Truth was exposed to a group that really doesn't seem to give a crapola about truth. The Loose Change Latest Cut must be mega factual based on its Forums/Admin, people really looking to examine proven evidence - LOL. Ed Ward, MD I'll probably get reprimanded by JFK for what I'm about to say, but I don't care. I'll take my reprimand and say it anyways. To put it as simply as possible: nobody here, or ATS, or anywhere else you decide to post your "truth", gives a rats ass about what you have to say when you come on these boards attacking respected individuals and saying "BS" this and "BS" that with your holier-than-thou negative attitude. If you're an "MD", then you should start acting like it and get some civility skills and some professionalism. Represent yourself and your information in a respectful and professional manner. Then maybe people will look at what you've got to say. Why you can't recognize that your anger and negative attitude overshadow and outshine any information you present is beyond me. Unless you don't care about being professional and civil, in which case you're probably just peddling disinformation and you have some other agenda not yet exposed. Until you do a 180, you will continue to attack and disrespect others and eventually get yourself banned from forum after forum, all while crying that nobody will listen or care about what you have to say. I've never, in my entire life, seen someone claiming to be an "MD" and have so much anger and hostility built up inside of them. You need to have a talk with someone who is a real MD and discuss some anger management.
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Flippy	Oct 23 2009, 05:16 PM Post #23
Posts: 577 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: 01/12/08	Quote: I've never, in my entire life, seen someone claiming to be an "MD" and have so much anger and hostility built up inside of them. You need to have a talk with someone who is a real MD and discuss some anger management. ^^ this.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 23 2009, 07:34 PM Post #24
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Flippy Oct 23 2009, 05:16 PM Quote: I've never, in my entire life, seen someone claiming to be an "MD" and have so much anger and hostility built up inside of them. You need to have a talk with someone who is a real MD and discuss some anger management. ^^ this. I believe, that like most people that still believe the official story he is angry and hostile because he is afraid that his beloved official story would be shown to be wrong if he were to actaully stop living in a safe fantasy world and face the reallity of the facts and evidence. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 23 2009, 07:35 PM.
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Q	Oct 24 2009, 08:33 AM Post #25
A Higher Evolution Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	ULTIMA1 Oct 22 2009, 11:33 AM BUMPED, Anyone interested in a discussion? CUSS means to swear and curse, not necessarily specific words but certainly without the heated emotion and flaming. DIScuss means to carry on a conversation without those specific words and/or heated emotion and flaming. The accusation that "Loose Change" is only interested in thermite/thermate is ludicrous. I agree with the sentiment that I would not be stupid enough to present myself to any "anti-government or branch" meeting in the known vicinity of a covert data collection agency. I'm in Australia and in about 1987 I learned information that was alleged to be in my ASIO file. (ASIO is Australia's CIA wannabe). That information was: My age being 20 years greater than my real age; I was the driver of semi-trailer (I've never even been the in cab of one); I was a member of some lunatic fringe "religion" in a geographic area I've never visited. Now, extremely large grains of salt aside, if a small agency like ASIO, which really has nothing better to do, can't get its facts right, why would I want to go up against the CIA/NSA? As for the NSA's involvement in cryptography, after the way they've treated Phil Zimmerman over PGP, I don't see that these agencies have any further right to be involved in the field. I think JFK has been very patient on this thread as a whole, and those who wish to continue posting here should recognise that using these sorts of fora is a privilege, NOT a right.



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