Killtown

Apr 25 2008, 12:52 PM

There was no shoot down at Shanksville. No 757 crashed there:

Hoodwinked at Shanksville: Fairy Tail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ricB0waEN0

Chewbacca2000

Apr 25 2008, 01:12 PM

I think there probably was shoot down actually when there are eyewitnesses who say they saw a fireball in the sky and a jet.

Killtown

Apr 25 2008, 01:41 PM

Chewbacca2000

Apr 25 2008, 01:12 PM

I think there probably was shoot down actually when there are eyewitnesses who say they saw a fireball in the sky and a jet.

There was an explosion on the ground at the scene and a fireball erupted in the air according to many witnesses. I'm unaware that anyone claims to have seen a fireball in the sky as if a plane exploded in mid-air. If there are, please list them.

Chewie, I'm surprised with someone who spends most of their time calling everything "disinfo" that you can't see that the "shoot-down" theory of Flight 93 one of the biggest pieces of disinfo in the movement:

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/02/is-flight93crashcom-spook-site.html

jqpublic

Apr 25 2008, 01:28 PM

1. well Killtown - had the photo of the crash plume and I think it was discovered it was faked.
or atleast that is what I remember...
2. killtown... give me a paragraph something more than a NO Plane...
3. so make your case Killtown - what are you talking about... No Plane... why is it such an issue with what appears to be every single post you have been doing lately... why are you going out on a limb that is so flimsy it cant stand up to screwtney..

Chewbacca2000

Apr 25 2008, 01:56 PM

Yea "flimsy" evidence like the multiple eyewitnesses who saw and heard a fighter jet and an explosion in the sky.

jqpublic

Apr 25 2008, 02:15 PM

Under Cover, Local yokel ... " We dived the lake and found very little debris from a jet.. "
"found all kinds of stuff but not much from an aircraft..." KillTown what do you have in your records about the Lake.?

Killtown

Apr 25 2008, 02:28 PM

jqpublic

Apr 25 2008, 02:15 PM

Under Cover, Local yokel ... " We dived the lake and found very little debris from a jet.. "
"found all kinds of stuff but not much from an aircraft..." KillTown what do you have in your records about the Lake.?

You can check my archives:

http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/articles.html
http://killtown.911review.org/flight93/witnesses.html


Did you watch my video yet?

jqpublic

Apr 25 2008, 02:42 PM

1. muchos, for database - can I download it..?
2. watching Fairy Tale at the moment... point taken --- and that has bothered me as well...
3. all parts I've seen from Shanksville, were small enough to be dumped out the back of c130 heculse...
have you done much with the C130 pilot national guard... I got the video somewhere around here... I'll find it and see if you can poke some wholes into his testimoney for me.
who was flying around WDC... not that far away.. wonder if he did a dump over shanksville and then provided us with testimoney about the Penetcon.... aircraft... interesting ... thought.

4. KillTown - call up a satilite map of the site...
USGS has the same crater seems it was there before 911.

Killtown

Apr 25 2008, 02:11 PM

Chewbacca2000

Apr 25 2008, 01:56 PM

Yea "flimsy" evidence like the multiple eyewitnesses who saw and heard a fighter jet and an explosion in the sky.

OK, let's see your evidence for that claim.


In the meantime:

Nevin Lambert - "The plane seemed to be fully, or largely, intact. "I didn't see no smoke, nothing,"

Linda Shepley - "If it had been shot down, there would have been pieces flying, but it was intact - there was nothing wrong with it."

Quote:

 

But press the mayor for details, and he will add something surprising. "I know of two people -- I will not mention names -- that heard a missile," Stuhl said. "They both live very close, within a couple of hundred yards. . .This one fellow's served in Vietnam and he says he's heard them, and he heard one that day." The mayor adds that based on what he knows about that morning, military F-16 fighter jets were "very, very close."

Quote:

 

Laura Temyer, who lives several miles north of the crash site in Hooversville, was hanging some clothes outside that morning when she heard an airplane pass overhead. That struck her as unusual since she'd just heard on TV that all flights were grounded.

"I heard like a boom and the engine sounded funny," she told the Daily News. "I heard two more booms -- and then I did not hear anything."

What does Temyer think she heard? "I think the plane was shot down," insists Temyer, who said she has twice told her story to the FBI. What's more, she insists that people she knows in state law enforcement have told her the same thing, that the plane was shot down and that decompression sucked objects from the aircraft, explaining why there was a wide debris field.

Quote:

 

A witness said he heard two loud bangs before watching the plane take a downward turn of nearly 90 degrees. A large crater, from which none of the plane could be seen, was left in the ground.

Quote:

 

"We got the call about 9:58 this morning from a male passenger stating that he was locked in the bathroom of United Flight 93 traveling from Newark to San Francisco, and they were being hijacked," said Glenn Cramer, a 911 supervisor.

"We confirmed that with him several times and we asked him to repeat what he said. He was very distraught. He said he believed the plane was going down. He did hear some sort of an explosion and saw white smoke coming from the plane, but he didn't know where.

"And then we lost contact with him."

Quote:

 

“I didn’t see the plane but I heard the plane’s engine. Then I heard a loud thump that echoed off the hills and then I heard the plane’s engine. I heard two more loud thumps and didn’t hear the plane’s engine anymore after that.”

Quote:

 

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: And to change that way of living, would strike at the very essence of our country.

And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon

Quote:

 

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, the--I suppose the toughest decision was this question of whether or not we would intercept incoming commercial aircraft.

MR. RUSSERT: And you decided?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: We decided to do it. We'd, in effect, put a flying combat air patrol up over the city; F-16s with an AWACS, which is an airborne radar system, and tanker support so they could stay up a long time. It doesn't do any good to put up a combat air patrol if you don't give them instructions to act, if, in fact, they feel it's appropriate.

MR. RUSSERT: So if the United States government became aware that a hijacked commercial airline was destined for the White House or the Capitol, we would take the plane down?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yes. The president made the decision, on my recommendation as well, wholeheartedly conquered in the decision he made, that if the plane would not divert, if they wouldn't pay any attention to instructions to move away from the city, as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out.

Killtown

Apr 26 2008, 02:52 AM

Don't worry about Chewie. He sucks at research, so he's forced to just sit their and cuss at people like a spoiled rotten kid who's parents taught him no manners. A real "benefit" to the truth movement he is. But maybe he is paid to do what he does. That would make a lot of sense.

jqpublic

 

I am aware of the TV fakery, the problem is once original footage has been edited it becomes non-christine and non-admissible. so I stopped wasting my time.
we have two un-edited footage of plane hitting tower 2. what can I say ... atleast one plane hit the tower... and then you have the nuaghda brothers catching plane I... that didn't seem to be faked... but it shows signs of editing...