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Do You Believe In Majick ? ...9/11 Astrological/Occult; ...Beyond coincidental
Topic Started: Sep 17 2009, 12:27 PM (321 Views)
noeffects	Sep 17 2009, 12:27 PM Post #1
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	Be patient..there is some very interesting things discussed here...
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tower	Sep 17 2009, 03:10 PM Post #2
Posts: 233 Group: Members Member #121 Joined: 01/18/08	1:40 - claim that the Giza pyramids reflect the Orion's Belt - first put forward by Robert Bauval in 1995, only holds if you rotate and scale the pyramids. 2:19 - I like how the narrator states that modern astrology checks even the position of Pluto, as if it meant anything 3:32 - "Illuminati symbolism" - you just said it's Masonic 4:47 - claim that by removing the bases of the triangles in Star of David one can get the square and compass of Freemasonry, which is completely unsupported by any source, and seeing how each Lodge is free to interpret the rituals as they see fit or that if you freely remove parts of something you can easily get whatever symbol you want, I don't think the argument has any real value 4:59 - no info on the "god of reflections" from Google. 5:56 - spin - unsourced claim on the importance of bodies of water and automatic assignment of any body of water in front of some structure to esoterics instead of just "it looks nice" 6:30 - "can we conclude that the Illuminati and their so-called "great work" is to mimic their ancient Egyptian masters?" - no, because you have yet to prove where exactly the Bavarian Illuminati fit into all of this 7:08 - "Washington D.C. was built in accordance with hermetic principles" - even if - so what? 7:30 - more geometry, still I can't see how that has any importance 7:50 - claim that during 9/11 there was an alignment between "important" astrological bodies - so what? What does it matter? There are billions of billions of astronomical bodies in the universe, on any given date at any given time some two are bound to be "in alignment", whatever "alignment" means outside of "we just assign significance to something insignificant" 8:04 - Saturn and Pluto forming an "aspect" of "opposition" - planets have no "aspects", they do not "oppose", they simply are. If you're going to arbitrarily assign some meaning to anything you choose, you're bound to finish with something satisfying, because you've put it in there. It's pareidolia. 8:17 - meaningless drivel about Saturn's assigned significance 8:25 - more astrology 8:45 - even more astrology 9:27 - spin based on previous nonsensical assumptions 9:46 - notions of Illuminatis performing human sacrifice rituals, with no regard to giving a source for the supposition that they ever performed ritual sacrifice 9:52 - "Do you believe in magick?" I won't even bother watching the rest. Here's an idea - listen to some John Lennon.
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noeffects	Sep 17 2009, 03:29 PM Post #3
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	you don't sound very patient....that's ok. I'm not into the whole horoscope thing either, but I love synchromysticism. I would say take all this with a grain of salt.. but the end of part two is pretty crazy and that is why I watched the whole thing.
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Q	Sep 18 2009, 08:19 AM Post #4
A Higher Evolution Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	tower Sep 17 2009, 03:10 PM 1:40 - claim that the Giza pyramids reflect the Orion's Belt - first put forward by Robert Bauval in 1995, only holds if you rotate and scale the pyramids. There is no scaling and rotation necessary. Winding the Earth-clock back by about 10,000 years achieves an optical alignment with the Stellar light shafts in the top of each Pyramid--co-incidentally, the Age of Leo and coincidentally, there's the Sphynx nearby, which shows signs of having been water-damaged and repaired long before the Pyramids themselves were built. Now, if we can work out how to gain access to the Viking ship Hermetically buried in the vicinity of the "Great" Pyramid, we may learn a thing or two. BTW, no effects, adding a "k" to the word magic does NOT increase its significance or authority. It just makes the people who do it look like KooKs. EDIT: The PRACTICE of "magic" is telekinesis, which can be developed by mental exercises. There is nothing "mysterious" about it. I have achieved TK on several occasions, but never succeeded in TP. Edited by Q, Sep 18 2009, 08:23 AM.



noeffects	Sep 18 2009, 08:37 AM Post #5
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	Q, I did not create this videos and if you would read the title displayed on the video... it is the proper name for this series...I did not add a "k" ...what I did was a function called copy and paste...it is quite popular...lol. Anyway did anyone at least watch the last few minutes of the 2nd video ?
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mid life rethinker	Sep 18 2009, 09:14 AM Post #6
Posts: 216 Group: Members Member #186 Joined: 01/22/08	noeffects Sep 18 2009, 08:37 AM Q, I did not create this videos and if you would read the title displayed on the video... it is the proper name for this series...I did not add a "k" ...what I did was a function called copy and paste...it is quite popular...lol. Anyway did anyone at least watch the last few minutes of the 2nd video ? I did. Now I'm trying to find the whole !oth Kingdom Video. Weird. I discount nothing.
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tower	Sep 18 2009, 09:46 AM Post #7
Posts: 233 Group: Members Member #121 Joined: 01/18/08	Quote: There is no scaling and rotation necessary. Winding the Earth-clock back by about 10,000 years achieves an optical alignment with the Stellar light shafts in the top of each Pyramid--co-incidentally, the Age of Leo and coincidentally, there's the Sphynx nearby, which shows signs of having been water-damaged and repaired long before the Pyramids themselves were built. Only it doesn't. http://www.antiquityofman.com/openlettertobauvalandhancock.html Quote: Now, if we can work out how to gain access to the Viking ship Hermetically buried in the vicinity of the "Great" Pyramid, we may learn a thing or two. What are you talking about? Quote: EDIT: The PRACTICE of "magic" is telekinesis, which can be developed by mental exercises. There is nothing "mysterious" about it. I have achieved TK on several occasions, but never succeeded in TP. No you haven't. There is no such things as telekinesis. If you think you have telekinetic power, feel welcome to prove the world's scientists wrong (and you get a million dollars too).
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noeffects	Sep 18 2009, 01:02 PM Post #8
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	tower No you haven't. There is no such things as telekinesis. If you think you have telekinetic power, feel welcome to prove the world's scientists wrong (and you get a million dollars too). jeez tower... JREF much ?
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bretwalda	Sep 18 2009, 02:34 PM Post #9
Posts: 205 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: 01/21/08	Michael Brass A little more background. ...Personally grateful to Hancock et al. I certainly don't align with all of his epistemology but he is a master at interjecting the most poignant questions to the scientist-priest class. Edited by bretwalda, Sep 18 2009, 02:38 PM.
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noeffects	Sep 18 2009, 08:23 PM Post #10
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	bretwalda Sep 18 2009, 02:34 PM Michael Brass A little more background. ...Personally grateful to Hancock et al. I certainly don't align with all of his epistemology but he is a master at interjecting the most poignant questions to the scientist-priest class. thanks for the info bret ...
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bretwalda	Sep 18 2009, 11:15 PM Post #11
Posts: 205 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: 01/21/08	If that stuff interests you N.E. you should read Hancock's followup to Fingerprints - The Message of the Sphinx. A much more rational breakdown of all the intricate dualism in Egyptology.
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Q	Sep 18 2009, 11:52 PM Post #12
A Higher Evolution Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	tower Sep 18 2009, 09:46 AM Quote: There is no scaling and rotation necessary. Winding the Earth-clock back by about 10,000 years achieves an optical alignment with the Stellar light shafts in the top of each Pyramid--co-incidentally, the Age of Leo and coincidentally, there's the Sphynx nearby, which shows signs of having been water-damaged and repaired long before the Pyramids themselves were built. Only it doesn't. http://www.antiquityofman.com/openlettertobauvalandhancock.html Quote: Now, if we can work out how to gain access to the Viking ship Hermetically buried in the vicinity of the "Great" Pyramid, we may learn a thing or two. What are you talking about? I read too much and take down too few references. Prior to the 80s a team using sonar and infrared successfully imaged a viking ship (those big things with multiple rows of oars), that is buried in a chamber near the Great Pyramid. The challenge is how to gain access to that chamber without letting the modern corrosive atmosphere in, or dormant pathogens out. Quote: EDIT: The PRACTICE of "magic" is telekinesis, which can be developed by mental exercises. There is nothing "mysterious" about it. I have achieved TK on several occasions, but never succeeded in TP. No you haven't. There is no such things as telekinesis. If you think you have telekinetic power, feel welcome to prove the world's scientists wrong (and you get a million dollars too). Alright, given the times and the circumstances, call it Pyrokinesis, because I was definitely exerting mental control on the flame emitted from sabotaged cigarette lighters, in the presence of the saboteur and several victims who had singed eye brows. I don't need "junk bonds", and considering the source, I don't need all the negativity that would be associated with it. Besides, with my health these days, I haven't tried anything in ages. If it weren't for a low-level TK field that everyone naturally generates, the world would grind to a complete stop. It is easier to find negative rather than positive examples of TK, one of the best being RME (Reverse Machine Empathy)--you know that person who only has to press "Print" on the photocopier and it suddenly decides to spread its internals over the entire office... Now the person who constantly attracts these negative mechanical outcomes is not physically doing anything, yet how come their "accident" level exceeds that of chance? I repeat: Magic is just telekinesis with a bunch of religious/occult rituals attached. Edited by Q, Sep 19 2009, 12:12 AM.



tower	Sep 19 2009, 12:33 AM Post #13
Posts: 233 Group: Members Member #121 Joined: 01/18/08	Quote: jeez tower... JREF much ? No, rationalist much. I refuse to accept the existence of something there is no evidence for. Quote: Michael Brass A little more background. From Hancocks website. How convenient. Here's some background on Hancock: http://www.antiquityofman.com/Bauval_Hancock_Cremo.html Quote: I read too much and take down too few references. Prior to the 80s a team using sonar and infrared successfully imaged a viking ship (those big things with multiple rows of oars), that is buried in a chamber near the Great Pyramid. The challenge is how to gain access to that chamber without letting the modern corrosive atmosphere in, or dormant pathogens out. If you're talking about this: then they've already gained access to it and restored it. Quote: Along with the pyramid itself, the remains of a magnificent 141-foot long ship of cedar wood had also been found in a rock-cut pit close to the south side of the Great Pyramid. A second ship may also rest in a second sealed pit, though not in as good condition as this first. The ship was restored over many years, and now lies in a special museum built near the pyramid itself. The ship may have symbolized the solar journey of the deceased king with the gods, particularly the sun-god Ra. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/khufu.htm And it's not a Viking ship. Quote: Alright, given the times and the circumstances, call it Pyrokinesis, because I was definitely exerting mental control on the flame emitted from sabotaged cigarette lighters, in the presence of the saboteur and several victims who had singed eye brows. How do you know that you have "definitely exerted mental control of the flame"? Quote: I don't need "junk bonds", and considering the source, I don't need all the negativity that would be associated with it. Besides, with my health these days, I haven't tried anything in ages. So, in other words, you expect me to take your word about this on face value. Sorry, but that won't happen. Quote: If it weren't for a low-level TK field that everyone naturally generates, the world would grind to a complete stop. What do you base that claim on? What is "TK field"? How do we supposedly generate it? Quote: It is easier to find negative rather than positive examples of TK, one of the best being RME (Reverse Machine Empathy)--you know that person who only has to press "Print" on the photocopier and it suddenly decides to spread its internals over the entire office... No, I don't, and blaming your misfortune on a nonexistant field of magic is pathetic, to be honest. Quote: Now the person who constantly attracts these negative mechanical outcomes is not physically doing anything, yet how come their "accident" level exceeds that of chance? Show me a person that has an accident level "exceeding chance" - whatever that means.
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Q	Sep 19 2009, 03:13 AM Post #14
A Higher Evolution Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	tower Sep 19 2009, 12:33 AM Quote: I read too much and take down too few references. Prior to the 80s a team using sonar and infrared successfully imaged a viking ship (those big things with multiple rows of oars), that is buried in a chamber near the Great Pyramid. The challenge is how to gain access to that chamber without letting the modern corrosive atmosphere in, or dormant pathogens out. If you're talking about this: then they've already gained access to it and restored it. Quote: Along with the pyramid itself, the remains of a magnificent 141-foot long ship of cedar wood had also been found in a rock-cut pit close to the south side of the Great Pyramid. A second ship may also rest in a second sealed pit, though not in as good condition as this first. The ship was restored over many years, and now lies in a special museum built near the pyramid itself. The ship may have symbolized the solar journey of the deceased king with the gods, particularly the sun-god Ra. http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/khufu.htm And it's not a Viking ship. That would be it. Given the technology available in the 80s, it's no surprise that it was interpreted as Viking in origin at that time. Quote: Alright, given the times and the circumstances, call it Pyrokinesis, because I was definitely exerting mental control on the flame emitted from sabotaged cigarette lighters, in the presence of the saboteur and several victims who had singed eye brows. How do you know that you have "definitely exerted mental control of the flame"? Three people had singed eye browse to prove that the saboteur had wound the lighter up to a six-inch flame. I then used said lighter and got a "normal" one-inch flame. Said saboteur again wound it up to six-inch flame, again I got a "normal" flame. This pissed the saboteur somewhat, and also confused the other victims of the prank. Quote: I don't need "junk bonds", and considering the source, I don't need all the negativity that would be associated with it. Besides, with my health these days, I haven't tried anything in ages. So, in other words, you expect me to take your word about this on face value. Sorry, but that won't happen. Quote: If it weren't for a low-level TK field that everyone naturally generates, the world would grind to a complete stop. What do you base that claim on? What is "TK field"? How do we supposedly generate it? Quote: It is easier to find negative rather than positive examples of TK, one of the best being RME (Reverse Machine Empathy)--you know that person who only has to press "Print" on the photocopier and it suddenly decides to spread its internals over the entire office... No, I don't, and blaming your misfortune on a nonexistant field of magic is pathetic, to be honest. Quote: Now the person who constantly attracts these negative mechanical outcomes is not physically doing anything, yet how come their "accident" level exceeds that of chance? Show me a person that has an accident level "exceeding chance" - whatever that means. You don't have to believe me. I'm not out to collect followers. Edited by Q, Sep 19 2009, 03:28 AM.



T3QuillAMocKINGbird	Sep 19 2009, 07:10 AM Post #15
Posts: 93 Group: Members Member #1,119 Joined: 04/07/09	Q Sep 18 2009, 11:52 PM tower Sep 18 2009, 09:46 AM Quote: There is no scaling and rotation necessary. Winding the Earth-clock back by about 10,000 years achieves an optical alignment with the Stellar light shafts in the top of each Pyramid--co-incidentally, the Age of Leo and coincidentally, there's the Sphynx nearby, which shows signs of having been water-damaged and repaired long before the Pyramids themselves were built. Only it doesn't. http://www.antiquityofman.com/openlettertobauvalandhancock.html Quote: Now, if we can work out how to gain access to the Viking ship Hermetically buried in the vicinity of the "Great" Pyramid, we may learn a thing or two. What are you talking about? I read too much and take down too few references. Prior to the 80s a team using sonar and infrared successfully imaged a viking ship (those big things with multiple rows of oars), that is buried in a chamber near the Great Pyramid. The challenge is how to gain access to that chamber without letting the modern corrosive atmosphere in, or dormant pathogens out. Quote: EDIT: The PRACTICE of "magic" is telekinesis, which can be developed by mental exercises. There is nothing "mysterious" about it. I have achieved TK on several occasions, but never succeeded in TP. No you haven't. There is no such things as telekinesis. If you think you have telekinetic power, feel welcome to prove the world's scientists wrong (and you get a million dollars too). Alright, given the times and the circumstances, call it Pyrokinesis, because I was definitely exerting mental control on the flame emitted from sabotaged cigarette lighters, in the presence of the saboteur and several victims who had singed eye brows. I don't need "junk bonds", and considering the source, I don't need all the negativity that would be associated with it. Besides, with my health these days, I haven't tried anything in ages. If it weren't for a low-level TK field that everyone naturally generates, the world would grind to a complete stop. It is easier to find negative rather than positive examples of TK, one of the best being RME (Reverse Machine Empathy)--you know that person who only has to press "Print" on the photocopier and it suddenly decides to spread its internals over the entire office... Now the person who constantly attracts these negative mechanical outcomes is not physically doing anything, yet how come their "accident" level exceeds that of chance? I repeat: Magic is just telekinesis with a bunch of religious/occult rituals attached. To those that believe... no explanition is necessary... to those that don't... none will suffice!
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noeffects	Sep 19 2009, 08:25 AM Post #16
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	T3QuillAMocKINGbird To those that believe... no explanation is necessary... to those that don't... none will suffice +1...right on point Any 'debunking' explanations here ? All coincidences ? No 'things that make you go hmm'? It's loaded... http://synchromysticismforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=580#p580 peace...
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skunkrider	Sep 20 2009, 03:48 AM Post #17
Posts: 328 Group: Members Member #166 Joined: 01/21/08	all you numerologists could use some teaching by Bill Bryson from his book "A Short History Of Nearly Everything". anybody read it?
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bretwalda	Sep 20 2009, 10:13 PM Post #18
Posts: 205 Group: Members Member #173 Joined: 01/21/08	Quote: From Hancocks website. How convenient. Here's some background on Hancock: http://www.antiquityofman...Bauval_Hancock_Cremo.html From Michael Brass's own website. How convenient.
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m0n3yman	Sep 21 2009, 12:14 AM Post #19
Posts: 128 Group: Members Member #900 Joined: 10/24/08	Astrology is pseudo-psychology.
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alexvegas	Sep 21 2009, 07:49 AM Post #20
alex25smash Posts: 607 Group: Members Member #34 Joined: 01/15/08	noeffects Sep 18 2009, 01:02 PM jeez tower... JREF much ? That's a really silly thing to say. Much of what JREF and James Randi stand for and do I fully support. Outside of their little anti-9/11-truth clique in the forum they fight some causes that are frankly pretty important. Proving whether things like psychics, homoeopathy, telekinesis etc exist or not needs to happen whilst so many people blindly insist they do without evidence for or against them. Our society is incredibly dumbed down, and belief without proof is pretty much accepted... which is not a healthy way to think. And to 'Q', I'd ask you to post some videos of you moving objects using telekinesis in a controlled environment. Making claims on a forum doesn't really serve much of a purpose. T3QuillAMocKINGbird To those that believe... no explanition is necessary... to those that don't... none will suffice! Life should not be about belief, it should be about knowledge... and to those that don't believe, testable evidence equals knowledge. To say 'none will suffice!' is a really blasé dismissive way to approach scepticism/rationalism/realism. Plenty will suffice, just not invented abstract concepts! Edited by alexvegas, Sep 21 2009, 07:54 AM.



tower	Sep 22 2009, 11:03 AM Post #21
Posts: 233 Group: Members Member #121 Joined: 01/18/08	Quote: Three people had singed eye browse to prove that the saboteur had wound the lighter up to a six-inch flame. I then used said lighter and got a "normal" one-inch flame. Said saboteur again wound it up to six-inch flame, again I got a "normal" flame. This pissed the saboteur somewhat, and also confused the other victims of the prank. So, failing lighters prove pyrokinesis? Did the saboteur test the lighter himself? Quote: You don't have to believe me. I'm not out to collect followers. That's OK, but if you're going to say things like that on a public forum, don't expect me to stay silent. Quote: To those that believe... no explanition is necessary... to those that don't... none will suffice! A scientific explanation will suffice for me.
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Q	Oct 14 2009, 05:30 AM Post #22
A Higher Evolution Posts: 525 Group: Members Member #12 Joined: 01/13/08	tower Sep 22 2009, 11:03 AM Quote: Three people had singed eye browse to prove that the saboteur had wound the lighter up to a six-inch flame. I then used said lighter and got a "normal" one-inch flame. Said saboteur again wound it up to six-inch flame, again I got a "normal" flame. This pissed the saboteur somewhat, and also confused the other victims of the prank. So, failing lighters prove pyrokinesis? Did the saboteur test the lighter himself? Quote: You don't have to believe me. I'm not out to collect followers. That's OK, but if you're going to say things like that on a public forum, don't expect me to stay silent. Quote: To those that believe... no explanition is necessary... to those that don't... none will suffice! A scientific explanation will suffice for me. Yes, I saw HER testing it--and to be totally honest, I seriously doubt that I could do it today without her being present--she was into some really weird shit.



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