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Dylan vs. "brainster" of JREF tonight; Radio show
Topic Started: Sep 10 2009, 10:32 AM (1,245 Views)
Aldo Marquis CIT	Sep 11 2009, 02:37 AM Post #26
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	mythstifieD Sep 11 2009, 02:13 AM JackD, What are you doing to free KSM? I think myths and tri need their (pseudo)"skeptic" badges.
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Beehive	Sep 11 2009, 02:58 AM Post #27
Posts: 2 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: 09/10/09	JackD Sep 11 2009, 02:11 AM I can't wait to see the film Tri makes about 9/11, which would be the appropriate criticism of another man's film work. Until then, I hope he pours a nice hot cuppa STFU, with honey & lemon. Nitey nite. I don't follow--are you suggesting that in order to properly criticize a person's film you have to do it by making another film? I freaking hated Robin William's Man of the Year but I can't criticize it unless I do so via my own film? Please tell that I just didn't understand what you were saying...
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T3QuillAMocKINGbird	Sep 11 2009, 03:25 AM Post #28
Posts: 95 Group: Members Member #1,119 Joined: 04/07/09	triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:57 AM So, mean-spirited, and nasty would NOT describe how you related to the pilots of the planes with Jack Blood?? So, that was warm and cozy?? Bullshit, and you know it. I am just asking questions, and you haven't answered a single one. I will present them again. Have you ever made a public apology, either by some you-tube video, or in your videos, or even to Mr. Brown himself about calling him a liar?? have you ever made any kind of contribution from your profits from Loose Change anything, to any of the Victim charaties? You said you would donate more than Michael Moore did. have you done this?? You stated that you would never make another 9/11 movie again afather the LAST film. And, lo and behold, here you have another one coming out. Why Dylan?? Do you see why people like me, who saw the events happen, who could have been killed, and saw 3000 lives snuffed out that day, think that you are a liar and scum Dylan?? Why would we think? Why do you continue to align yourself with people like Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, and Jack Blood, who push these types of views, that YOu disagree with?? Why Dylan?? You want to know what I think?? I think it is because you like the attention. Good or bad, you like the attention. You couldn't make it in movies, so get your name out there any way you can. That is what I think. Oh, and money too. I still think that you are a liar Dylan, and not much can change that. Prove me wrong Dylan, please, prove me wrong. Donate all your profit from this new movies to a 9/11 victims' charity. That would garner some respect from me, and even some of the FDNY. Because believe me, they all think that you are just as low as the terrorists that killed our brothers. I lost friends in 911, also in Iraq and one friend was the only survivor in his truck from an IED bomb that went off. Maybe your own perception of the truth movement causes your disdain towards Dylan, as I would believe he is sincere. The opposite effect happens from my perception being that I stand behind anyone attempting to shed light upon the lies from an administration that we were led to believe, lies that caused even more bloodshed. How dare you compare Dylan to terrorists and if the firefighters believe this misperception, well I have a Firefighter friend who died that can be my envoy from heaven and his message in this case would be, "Don't fight against your brother!". Honestly I believe Dylan is fighting for americans and our liberties, but you are more concerned with what you think he said and if he will free KSM(@mythstifieD), than being concerned about the bloodsuckers who have robbed our economy. Who put the CON in eCONomy subsequently ending with O MY! They are the same people that put "In God We Trust" on our money, to end up with a FED Herring whose fiscal fish always swim back up stream to then reproduce and expire. Americans bought the Federal Fish farm, hook line and sinker. Still God said thou shall not kill, yet God's name is on our bills only to make God a party now to every deed. How poinent that conicidentally William Rodriguez a Janitor being late to work had his life spared. Perhaps God appointed this Conspiratorial Janitor to help clean up this mess. He witnessed things that in his opinion did not seem right towards the official story, along with other firefighters that came forward with anomalies. I have read from excerpts of interviews and I don't confuse one firefighters account as if they are a representative for all firefighters. So when one firefighter came forward with strange stories about how her turncoat became a burn coat along with witnessing explosives, I stand behind her account. When others came forward and had videotaped meetings about their perceptions that point to a deception from within the government, I stand behind them, as they were ordinary citizens who found themselves witnessing things that go against the official story. Shouldn't you be concerned that there is positive proof of a Nano-Thermate found in the dust and who put it there, or do you think Dylan planted the Nano-Thermate to become a famous film and money maker? And you want to call him out and discredit him as he attempts to unveil the real villan? I think instead of asking for an apology just forgive him if he has truly wronged you. Semper Fly T3QuillAMocKINGbird
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JFK	Sep 11 2009, 07:35 AM Post #29
Posts: 4,221 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	mythstifieD Sep 11 2009, 02:13 AM JackD, What are you doing to free KSM? On the KSM issue... In my opinion he should remain incarcerated regardless of whether he was involved in the events of 9/11 or not. The man is obviously deranged and a menace to not only society but himself... Period. So take your strawman arguement and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine.
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JFK	Sep 11 2009, 07:47 AM Post #30
Posts: 4,221 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	triforcharity Sep 10 2009, 11:49 PM < snip drivel > I find you simply disgusting. For the simple reason that you throw "your own" under the bus so willfully. Quote: BROOKLYN, N.Y. - Firefighter John Schroeder, assigned to Engine Company 10 directly across the street from the World Trade Center complex, holds back tears and describes his first-hand experience on Sept. 11th. His story directly contradicts many aspects of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks and corroborates many other eyewitnesses testimony. “Standing outside the firehouse with my buddies, we were talking about how beautiful the day was. Then just like that, our lives changed forever. Some of those guys I would never see again.” In this exclusive interview, Firefighter Schroeder recollects in great detail how he was one of the first firefighters to rush to the complex. “We first assembled on West Street, where we saw someone burnt beyond recognition. We were like ‘What is going on here?’ and then went straight into the Marriot building” From there, Firefighter Schroeder made his way to the lobby of the North Tower. “It looked like a bomb went off, and we started making our way up the stairs to rescue as many people as we could.” As they were making there way up the floors, Firefighter Schroeder heard a huge explosion. “The elevators just blew right out. We couldn’t believe it. The plane hits 80 floors up but the elevators explode at least five minutes later? It was unreal.” Firefighter Schroeder made it all the way up to the 23rd floor before barely hearing on the failing radios that another plane was coming in. That plane would hit the South Tower though for some reason “We were tossed like a rag doll by another explosion in our building. People were making there way down the stairwells burnt like you couldn’t believe. We were all shocked because it seemed as if there was fire everywhere, on so many floors. It just didn’t make sense”. John Schroeder, we want to thank you for being as brave as your job requires in speaking out about your experiences on Sept/ 11th. You have set the historical record straight by explaining your story. This Nation is forever greatful to you as your account will help to save and protect many more lives. RSVP Today for the 9/11 First Responder Fundraiser in NYC on 09/11/2007 Edit to add - I see he never made it on your precious "list"... I wonder why. /sarcasm Edited by JFK, Sep 11 2009, 07:55 AM.
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 05:31 PM Post #31
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	Aldo Marquis CIT Sep 11 2009, 02:35 AM triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:57 AM dylan avery Sep 11 2009, 12:18 AM triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:12 AM Dylan, Have you made a public apology in one of your movies for the statements you have made?? Have you put it in the opening credits of any of your previous movies?? No, of course not. Dylan, you alighn yourself with people whom, by your own admission, believe that firefighters were threatened into silence. Instead of getting your name as FAR away from them, you embrace them, you thrive on them. Now, please tell me, what have you done for the victims of 9/11 or their families?? Oh, of course you haven't come right out and said things. You IMPLIED lots of things. Dylan, I know that you are a liar. You said, "I will never make another movie about 9/11 again." But, of course, you have. Why Dylan?? Why would you do this?? This makes your word WORTHLESS. Why?? Money?? nah, couldn't be that....... Wow, you're coming at me with fists swinging and accusing me of the same things that everyone else does. Congratulations. You so-called "debunkers" tend to be some of the most mean-spirited, vengeful, nasty people I've ever encountered, while I've seen almost the polar opposite in this movement. I tried talking to you like a human being. You continued to insult me and trash my character further without making any attempts to converse with me on a rational level. People like you are so stuck on this pre-conceived notion of who I am and where I come from that no amount of logic or reasoning with you will achieve a single thing. To quote my favorite movie ... This conversation. Is over. So, mean-spirited, and nasty would NOT describe how you related to the pilots of the planes with Jack Blood?? So, that was warm and cozy?? Bullshit, and you know it. I am just asking questions, and you haven't answered a single one. I will present them again. Have you ever made a public apology, either by some you-tube video, or in your videos, or even to Mr. Brown himself about calling him a liar?? have you ever made any kind of contribution from your profits from Loose Change anything, to any of the Victim charaties? You said you would donate more than Michael Moore did. have you done this?? You stated that you would never make another 9/11 movie again afather the LAST film. And, lo and behold, here you have another one coming out. Why Dylan?? Do you see why people like me, who saw the events happen, who could have been killed, and saw 3000 lives snuffed out that day, think that you are a liar and scum Dylan?? Why would we think? Why do you continue to align yourself with people like Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, and Jack Blood, who push these types of views, that YOu disagree with?? Why Dylan?? You want to know what I think?? I think it is because you like the attention. Good or bad, you like the attention. You couldn't make it in movies, so get your name out there any way you can. That is what I think. Oh, and money too. I still think that you are a liar Dylan, and not much can change that. Prove me wrong Dylan, please, prove me wrong. Donate all your profit from this new movies to a 9/11 victims' charity. That would garner some respect from me, and even some of the FDNY. Because believe me, they all think that you are just as low as the terrorists that killed our brothers. Is this the way you talked to the alleged truther in the alleged convenient store? No, it had much more foul language. But, of course, you were not there, and can only speculate.
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Sep 11 2009, 05:47 PM Post #32
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	Do you have the police report for the incident? Because I don't believe you. You seem like the type that would make up something like this in order to demonize a movement you seem to hate and think is a detriment to this country. I am sure you meant well, but if you were lying about the incident-which I believe you are, then that is not cool in the least
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Lin Kuei	Sep 11 2009, 05:50 PM Post #33
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mythstifieD	Sep 12 2009, 01:50 PM Post #34
Posts: 3 Group: BANNED! Member #1,339 Joined: 09/11/09	Awesome, guys, awesome. Ban a NYFD because he disagrees with you. Why debate when you can just shoot the guy in the head, right? Oh boy, I can't wait till you guys over throw the government and run the show. Can you say Oliver Cromwell and the French Revolution? Lin, you are despicable. You don't want the Truth, you only want your "truth". Unban him, if you have any dignity whatsoever. I doubt you will though. In fact, I predict a ban coming my way too. But that's fine, martyr me. As for KSM being incarcerated simply because he's a deranged man... You know what? Fine, fair enough, the guy is a creep and probably is a menace. Anyone who would claim responsibility for the crime of 9/11 is obviously a psychopath. But you miss the broader point here. Here you Falsers have a GOLDEN opportunity to have your evidence presented in a PUBLIC and NATIONAL and LEGAL level. But instead, you would rather fantasize about crack addicts interviewing the President. Pretty sad that your most prominent supporter is a comedian.. what a JOKE this movement has become. KSM can still be locked away in a mental institution for being psychotic. But should he be the fall guy for 9/11? Do you really want the New World Order to win? Or do you want to Carpe Diem, and present your solid evidence to the nations courts and really make a point? The media will go nuts over it if you win, and Bush will be the next to go on trial if you present a good enough case that KSM couldn't have POSSIBLY been the Mastermind because "9/11 was an Inside Job"... By not doing this, the entire movement is hypocritical.
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JFK	Sep 12 2009, 02:05 PM Post #35
Posts: 4,221 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	mythstifieD Sep 12 2009, 01:50 PM In fact, I predict a ban coming my way too. But that's fine, martyr me. As you wish.
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22205	Sep 16 2009, 05:38 PM Post #36
Arlingtonian Posts: 444 Group: Members Member #24 Joined: 01/14/08	ksm may or may not be behind 9/11, but he is very likely guilty of something, at the very least poor judgement in picking associates. i doubt he was chosen at random to be the 9/11 patsy, nope. he was probably involved on some level or other with either realdeal badguy muslims, or realdeal intel/black-op operatives. maybe he really did behead daniel pearl as is allegedly claimed to have been confessed by him, maybe not. but i really seriously doubt "we" (the "good guys") went and grabbed some completely innocent random guy off the street and then made him an escapegoat for the biggest crime of the century. its very probable that ksm probably messed around with some people he should not have messed with, and now he is paying the price for it - even if he wasnt the guy who was behind 9/11. so he isnt worthy of a direct contribution to his defense fund, not by avery nor by any other person dedicated to pursuing 9/11 truth. to suggest that because we dont think he (ksm) is behind 9/11 avery should give money to his defense - is retarded. besides, thanks to ksm's alleged confession, there is nothing available for anyone to do. the case is closed until ksm (by way of his legal defense counsel) decides to retract his (alleged) guilty plea or he decideds to pursue proving his innocence. perhaps then (and only then) his defense can seek to use or cite evidence uncovered by those who have sought 9/11 truth. but overall, that would (or should) be the extent of the truth movement's involvment in "helping" ksm. tell me dear skeptics, since you doNt doubt the official story, how much money did you devote to ksm's prosecution? how much money or effort did you expend to help convict moussauoi? dumbass question, right? technically, "our" tax dollars paid for both - ksm's prosecution and his defense. so there! we've all contributed equally to the whole ksm affair. but as dumb as you "skeptical" guys (and gals) are, you aint that dumb. this whole bullshit smear (as it played out on that radio show and has continued here in this thread) is an obvious and woefully transparent ploy: smear avery (and the truth movement by association) with accusations of disrespect for the heroes, and then pose some ridiculous insinuation based on ill-logic in a calculated attempt to tarnish his (and by associaton our) name/reputation. but whatever you do, dodge the issues of substance and avoid actual debate. thanks to an accomodating and like-minded radio host, you got your wish. but in spite of your 15 minutes, you have not succeeded in accomplishing your overall and ultimate agenda. 9/11 truth is NOT going way, ever. * about triforcharity: i wanna see proof of this alleged fireman actually being anything other than a pseudoskeptical douche. you slimey jref bastards would definitely lie in order to help add weight to your worthless accusations, and this guy could be a prime example of it. without proof, who knows? so come on mr.fireman, what are your credentials? which firehouse? got proof? scans of your id? anything? or just lots of hot air and indignation? if you - "triforcharity" - are gonna speak publicly against avery/loosechange and/or 9/11 truth, and want to claim to do so as a** 9/11nyfd firefighter, then you need to do it with your real name and the name of your 9/11 fire fighting unit. otherwise you are just another random anonymous prick with an axe to grind. you cant both claim to speak as a nyfd 9/11 responder and at the same time be anonymous. and guess what? even if you do reveal who you are and it turns out (beyond any doubt) that you really were there on 9/11 as a fire fighter, it still doesnt prove any other fireman supports your anti-avery and/or your anti-9/11truth stance, that is unless they too are willing to go on record with their real names and nyfd affiliations. so even then its just you and you alone who hates 9/11 truth, not your alleged firefighting brethren. and does this sound like a firefighter? source: http://tinyurl.com/ntfnhc no, it doesnt. it barely sounds like a human being, much less one tasked with saving lives. "triforcharity" prove you are what/who you claim to be, or quit exploiting the nyfd to further your own personal vendetta.



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