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Dylan vs. "brainster" of JREF tonight; Radio show
Topic Started: Sep 10 2009, 10:32 AM (1,253 Views)
JFK	Sep 10 2009, 10:32 AM Post #1
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	http://www.am770chqr.com/Station/OnAirSchedule.aspx The Rob Breakenridge Show, starts at 8:00 PM Mountain Time, 7:00 Pacific, 9:00 Central and 10:00 Eastern.
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Flippy	Sep 10 2009, 08:34 PM Post #2
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 09:40 PM Post #3
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Attached to this post: CoC1.png (733.57 KB) CoC2.png (293.95 KB) Edited by JFK, Sep 10 2009, 09:41 PM.
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 10:04 PM Post #4
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	RE: not one new york firefighter at Firefighters for 9/11 truth... http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?page_id=469 Anton Vodvarka New York City Fire Dept. (Retired) 15+ Years I also find it appaling that this idiot threw the rest of the professional Firefighters who signed that petition under the bus. May he be trapped in his burning house and the incompetant firefighters ignore him. Edited by JFK, Sep 10 2009, 10:17 PM.
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noeffects	Sep 10 2009, 10:16 PM Post #5
Posts: 798 Group: Members Member #178 Joined: 01/22/08	I just missed it... anything juicy?
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 10:23 PM Post #6
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	noeffects Sep 10 2009, 10:16 PM I just missed it... anything juicy? Other than Pat Curly AKA Brainster and the rest of the idiots putting words into Dylan's mouth and attempting to not let him respond, no. Supposedly the show will be archived and made available via .mp3 at a later date. Right now it appears as if the site is down. Quote: An error occurred while processing your request. Reference #97.6e481160.1252639172.1f95c0b Edited by JFK, Sep 10 2009, 10:24 PM.
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 10:46 PM Post #7
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	RE: http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5094838&postcount=229 If you consider getting 3 words out before he was talked over either by the host or "brainster" "ample time" then you are correct.
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Beehive	Sep 10 2009, 10:53 PM Post #8
Posts: 2 Group: Members Member #1,337 Joined: 09/10/09	Ehhhh I think Avery had more time than Pat. No question. I will give it a listen because I am more than willing to concede that the host did a lot of interrupting. However it was really hard to keep Dylan on the subject.
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 10:59 PM Post #9
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Beehive Sep 10 2009, 10:53 PM Ehhhh I think Avery had more time than Pat. No question. I will give it a listen because I am more than willing to concede that the host did a lot of interrupting. However it was really hard to keep Dylan on the subject. Interesting take on it... Who brought up Bermas and Jones ? Edit to clarify - Alex Jones Edited by JFK, Sep 10 2009, 11:01 PM.
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JFK	Sep 10 2009, 11:08 PM Post #10
Posts: 4,225 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	<----- Scrolls back to see where I called the FDNY cowards... Nope, not here. Just more JREFfian lies. RE: http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5094868&postcount=234
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triforcharity	Sep 10 2009, 11:49 PM Post #11
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	JFk, First off, Every bit what I said was 100% true and factual. Anton Vodvarka was not there on 9/11, nor have I, or others that I have talked to, ever heard of that name. FOIA does not cover retirees, so it is possble that this is why. Its possible that he/she worked in admin or something, but certainly NOT as a firefighter, as SOMEONE had to of heard of him/her. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html Search for the name. Every firefighter who was at that site, or had anything to do with the efforts that day, were interviewed. Why is it, if firefighters from FDNY know that 9/11 was an inside job, none that I can verify have signed that petition?? Why is it that none of them are shouting from the rooftops that insert whatever group ya'll believe caused 9/11 was in on it, and killed 343 of OUR brothers??? Why is it?? Oh, because they have been threatened?? Bermas has certainly said this. But, Jason also believes that someone played a jedi Mind Trick on him that caused him to say "THEY'RE PAID OFF". Linkey http://wtc7lies.googlepages.com/jasonbermasofloosechangedisparagesthefdn http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/05/jason-drops-apology-for-saying.html So, because we were paid off or threatened, we would just shut and and say nothing. So, what would that make us??? Oh, yeah, thats right, a damn coward. That would make us a bunch of cowards with no moral compass whatsoever. Think about that JFK. I saw 343 of my Brothers die. People I hung out with, drank beer with, attended parties on halidays with, put my LIFE in THEIR hands. We were a FAMILY. Hell, some of them were there for the birth of my son. If any of us truely thought for one minute that there was some inside conspiracy, we would be screaming still to this day. But, alas, we are not. I think that if a firefighter believes that 9/11 was in inside job, and that FDNY is a bunch of cowards who wouldn't stand from the top of a building and shout for all the world to hear that they believe 9/11 was an inside job, or that FDNY was threatened into silence, and we just did what we were told, than they do not deserve to be called a firefighter. I fully believe that. I fully expect a permanant ban after this post. So, whatever. Edited by triforcharity, Sep 10 2009, 11:57 PM.
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dylan avery	Sep 10 2009, 11:52 PM Post #12
Posts: 108 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: 12/21/07	There were a lot of things I didn't get to bring up, but I think my opening statement about the movement, where it all comes and why it exists in the first place pretty much sums it all up. Someone recorded an mp3 of it, I shall upload it soon. Edited by dylan avery, Sep 10 2009, 11:53 PM.
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 12:01 AM Post #13
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	You lie Dylan, What have you EVER done for the victims of that day?? Other than call them liars, shills, plants, and murderers!! What the hell have you done. You came RIGHT OUT, and said that "Bernard Brown led his son to SLAUGHTER" You said that. Don't lie Dylan. And that you CANNOT blame on Jason, because YOU said it, in your VERY OWN VOICE!!
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dylan avery	Sep 11 2009, 12:03 AM Post #14
Posts: 108 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: 12/21/07	triforcharity Sep 10 2009, 11:49 PM I fully expect a permanant ban after this post. So, whatever. I'm not going to ban you, and I do not wish to stir the pot or incite you further in any way. I just want to make one point, real quick. I, Dylan Avery, did not, do not, and will not ever believe that the firefighters are involved in what happened in any, way, shape or form. Any statements made by people other than myself are not representative or me, or my films.
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dylan avery	Sep 11 2009, 12:05 AM Post #15
Posts: 108 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: 12/21/07	triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:01 AM You lie Dylan, What have you EVER done for the victims of that day?? Other than call them liars, shills, plants, and murderers!! What the hell have you done. You came RIGHT OUT, and said that "Bernard Brown led his son to SLAUGHTER" You said that. Don't lie Dylan. And that you CANNOT blame on Jason, because YOU said it, in your VERY OWN VOICE!! Please find a quote of me directly calling the victims shills or plants. I think you're confusing me with another person again. As for Bernard Brown, it's interesting how people love to bring up a statement I made in April, 2005, but never the repeated attempts I've made on this board and others to try and clarify or apologize for that statement. But, continue believing whatever you want.
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 12:06 AM Post #16
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	So why did you allow it to go into your movie?? If I were to put a movie together, I would make sure that what went into MY movie was what I agreed with. So, what is it?? Did you not realize it was there, and just made an honest mistake, or did you know about it, and not object to it??
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 12:12 AM Post #17
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	Dylan, Have you made a public apology in one of your movies for the statements you have made?? Have you put it in the opening credits of any of your previous movies?? No, of course not. Dylan, you alighn yourself with people whom, by your own admission, believe that firefighters were threatened into silence. Instead of getting your name as FAR away from them, you embrace them, you thrive on them. Now, please tell me, what have you done for the victims of 9/11 or their families?? Oh, of course you haven't come right out and said things. You IMPLIED lots of things. Dylan, I know that you are a liar. You said, "I will never make another movie about 9/11 again." But, of course, you have. Why Dylan?? Why would you do this?? This makes your word WORTHLESS. Why?? Money?? nah, couldn't be that.......
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dylan avery	Sep 11 2009, 12:13 AM Post #18
Posts: 108 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: 12/21/07	triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:06 AM So why did you allow it to go into your movie?? If I were to put a movie together, I would make sure that what went into MY movie was what I agreed with. So, what is it?? Did you not realize it was there, and just made an honest mistake, or did you know about it, and not object to it?? It wasn't in the actual movie. It was a brief moment in a special feature on the DVD, words coming directly out of Jason Bermas' mouth that were not written or directed by me. There's a big difference.
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 12:16 AM Post #19
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	dylan avery Sep 11 2009, 12:13 AM triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:06 AM So why did you allow it to go into your movie?? If I were to put a movie together, I would make sure that what went into MY movie was what I agreed with. So, what is it?? Did you not realize it was there, and just made an honest mistake, or did you know about it, and not object to it?? It wasn't in the actual movie. It was a brief moment in a special feature on the DVD, words coming directly out of Jason Bermas' mouth that were not written or directed by me. There's a big difference. But you STILL let it in Dylan, that is my point. YOU LET IT GO IN. Why, if you didn't agree with it, is it even IN the movie at ALL??
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dylan avery	Sep 11 2009, 12:18 AM Post #20
Posts: 108 Group: Admins Member #2 Joined: 12/21/07	triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:12 AM Dylan, Have you made a public apology in one of your movies for the statements you have made?? Have you put it in the opening credits of any of your previous movies?? No, of course not. Dylan, you alighn yourself with people whom, by your own admission, believe that firefighters were threatened into silence. Instead of getting your name as FAR away from them, you embrace them, you thrive on them. Now, please tell me, what have you done for the victims of 9/11 or their families?? Oh, of course you haven't come right out and said things. You IMPLIED lots of things. Dylan, I know that you are a liar. You said, "I will never make another movie about 9/11 again." But, of course, you have. Why Dylan?? Why would you do this?? This makes your word WORTHLESS. Why?? Money?? nah, couldn't be that....... Wow, you're coming at me with fists swinging and accusing me of the same things that everyone else does. Congratulations. You so-called "debunkers" tend to be some of the most mean-spirited, vengeful, nasty people I've ever encountered, while I've seen almost the polar opposite in this movement. I tried talking to you like a human being. You continued to insult me and trash my character further without making any attempts to converse with me on a rational level. People like you are so stuck on this pre-conceived notion of who I am and where I come from that no amount of logic or reasoning with you will achieve a single thing. To quote my favorite movie ... This conversation. Is over.
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mythstifieD	Sep 11 2009, 12:40 AM Post #21
Posts: 3 Group: BANNED! Member #1,339 Joined: 09/11/09	You never answer questions, do you? Tri is NYFD, and you won't do him the dignity of answering his honest questions. You don't seem to care at all about the families. Everything from you is a red herring. All night long you just dodged the questions. And you got saved tonight, but let me ask you again, and don't dodge the question this time: WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO SAVE KHALID SHEIK MOHAMMAD? Obviously an innocent man, if your theories are correct. How can you stand idle and let this man be sent to jail, and perhaps executed?? How? Don't even MENTION Osama Bin Ladin, or I'll mention Jason Bermas. If anything this is a perfect chance to give your Truth-Seeking a national and public platform, and you do a great good by freeing an innocent man. Maybe KSM is a patsy? Well, whatever, he still doesn't deserve to die for something the government apparently did right? Please answer the KSM, if you answer nothing else. You got saved by the Host on this question tonight, but he's not here to save you now.
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triforcharity	Sep 11 2009, 12:57 AM Post #22
Posts: 7 Group: BANNED! Member #1,338 Joined: 09/10/09	dylan avery Sep 11 2009, 12:18 AM triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:12 AM Dylan, Have you made a public apology in one of your movies for the statements you have made?? Have you put it in the opening credits of any of your previous movies?? No, of course not. Dylan, you alighn yourself with people whom, by your own admission, believe that firefighters were threatened into silence. Instead of getting your name as FAR away from them, you embrace them, you thrive on them. Now, please tell me, what have you done for the victims of 9/11 or their families?? Oh, of course you haven't come right out and said things. You IMPLIED lots of things. Dylan, I know that you are a liar. You said, "I will never make another movie about 9/11 again." But, of course, you have. Why Dylan?? Why would you do this?? This makes your word WORTHLESS. Why?? Money?? nah, couldn't be that....... Wow, you're coming at me with fists swinging and accusing me of the same things that everyone else does. Congratulations. You so-called "debunkers" tend to be some of the most mean-spirited, vengeful, nasty people I've ever encountered, while I've seen almost the polar opposite in this movement. I tried talking to you like a human being. You continued to insult me and trash my character further without making any attempts to converse with me on a rational level. People like you are so stuck on this pre-conceived notion of who I am and where I come from that no amount of logic or reasoning with you will achieve a single thing. To quote my favorite movie ... This conversation. Is over. So, mean-spirited, and nasty would NOT describe how you related to the pilots of the planes with Jack Blood?? So, that was warm and cozy?? Bullshit, and you know it. I am just asking questions, and you haven't answered a single one. I will present them again. Have you ever made a public apology, either by some you-tube video, or in your videos, or even to Mr. Brown himself about calling him a liar?? have you ever made any kind of contribution from your profits from Loose Change anything, to any of the Victim charaties? You said you would donate more than Michael Moore did. have you done this?? You stated that you would never make another 9/11 movie again afather the LAST film. And, lo and behold, here you have another one coming out. Why Dylan?? Do you see why people like me, who saw the events happen, who could have been killed, and saw 3000 lives snuffed out that day, think that you are a liar and scum Dylan?? Why would we think? Why do you continue to align yourself with people like Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, and Jack Blood, who push these types of views, that YOu disagree with?? Why Dylan?? You want to know what I think?? I think it is because you like the attention. Good or bad, you like the attention. You couldn't make it in movies, so get your name out there any way you can. That is what I think. Oh, and money too. I still think that you are a liar Dylan, and not much can change that. Prove me wrong Dylan, please, prove me wrong. Donate all your profit from this new movies to a 9/11 victims' charity. That would garner some respect from me, and even some of the FDNY. Because believe me, they all think that you are just as low as the terrorists that killed our brothers.
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JackD	Sep 11 2009, 02:11 AM Post #23
Posts: 263 Group: Members Member #253 Joined: 01/31/08	I can't wait to see the film Tri makes about 9/11, which would be the appropriate criticism of another man's film work. Until then, I hope he pours a nice hot cuppa STFU, with honey & lemon. Nitey nite.
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mythstifieD	Sep 11 2009, 02:13 AM Post #24
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Sep 11 2009, 02:35 AM Post #25
Posts: 1,650 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:57 AM dylan avery Sep 11 2009, 12:18 AM triforcharity Sep 11 2009, 12:12 AM Dylan, Have you made a public apology in one of your movies for the statements you have made?? Have you put it in the opening credits of any of your previous movies?? No, of course not. Dylan, you alighn yourself with people whom, by your own admission, believe that firefighters were threatened into silence. Instead of getting your name as FAR away from them, you embrace them, you thrive on them. Now, please tell me, what have you done for the victims of 9/11 or their families?? Oh, of course you haven't come right out and said things. You IMPLIED lots of things. Dylan, I know that you are a liar. You said, "I will never make another movie about 9/11 again." But, of course, you have. Why Dylan?? Why would you do this?? This makes your word WORTHLESS. Why?? Money?? nah, couldn't be that....... Wow, you're coming at me with fists swinging and accusing me of the same things that everyone else does. Congratulations. You so-called "debunkers" tend to be some of the most mean-spirited, vengeful, nasty people I've ever encountered, while I've seen almost the polar opposite in this movement. I tried talking to you like a human being. You continued to insult me and trash my character further without making any attempts to converse with me on a rational level. People like you are so stuck on this pre-conceived notion of who I am and where I come from that no amount of logic or reasoning with you will achieve a single thing. To quote my favorite movie ... This conversation. Is over. So, mean-spirited, and nasty would NOT describe how you related to the pilots of the planes with Jack Blood?? So, that was warm and cozy?? Bullshit, and you know it. I am just asking questions, and you haven't answered a single one. I will present them again. Have you ever made a public apology, either by some you-tube video, or in your videos, or even to Mr. Brown himself about calling him a liar?? have you ever made any kind of contribution from your profits from Loose Change anything, to any of the Victim charaties? You said you would donate more than Michael Moore did. have you done this?? You stated that you would never make another 9/11 movie again afather the LAST film. And, lo and behold, here you have another one coming out. Why Dylan?? Do you see why people like me, who saw the events happen, who could have been killed, and saw 3000 lives snuffed out that day, think that you are a liar and scum Dylan?? Why would we think? Why do you continue to align yourself with people like Alex Jones, Jason Bermas, and Jack Blood, who push these types of views, that YOu disagree with?? Why Dylan?? You want to know what I think?? I think it is because you like the attention. Good or bad, you like the attention. You couldn't make it in movies, so get your name out there any way you can. That is what I think. Oh, and money too. I still think that you are a liar Dylan, and not much can change that. Prove me wrong Dylan, please, prove me wrong. Donate all your profit from this new movies to a 9/11 victims' charity. That would garner some respect from me, and even some of the FDNY. Because believe me, they all think that you are just as low as the terrorists that killed our brothers. Is this the way you talked to the alleged truther in the alleged convenient store?
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