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Re-visiting the Pentagon security video; For David C
Topic Started: Sep 3 2009, 05:57 PM (2,656 Views)
ULTIMA1	Oct 7 2009, 03:08 AM Post #151
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	HeadLikeARock Oct 6 2009, 12:14 PM Why don't you admit that it shows something that looks as if it could be a 757, regardless of whether it was photoshopped or not? Becasue there is nothing in that video that even appears close to a 757. The security video DOES NOT show a 757 that people that still believe the official story keep stating it does. End of story. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 7 2009, 03:08 AM.
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HeadLikeARock	Oct 7 2009, 06:02 AM Post #152
Posts: 345 Group: Members Member #438 Joined: 03/25/08	ULTIMA1 Oct 7 2009, 03:08 AM HeadLikeARock Oct 6 2009, 12:14 PM Why don't you admit that it shows something that looks as if it could be a 757, regardless of whether it was photoshopped or not? Becasue there is nothing in that video that even appears close to a 757. The security video DOES NOT show a 757 that people that still believe the official story keep stating it does. End of story. If you want to believe that, fine, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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HeadLikeARock	Oct 7 2009, 06:07 AM Post #153
Posts: 345 Group: Members Member #438 Joined: 03/25/08	Domenick DiMaggio Oct 7 2009, 12:06 AM HeadLikeARock Oct 6 2009, 06:43 AM IMO, the 'no shadow' argument is a red herring that doesn't affect the authenticity or otherwise of the video. i do believe much like the fact that the wrong date appears on the video that the 'no shadow' argument is very important. so we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Fair enough. Re the wrong date, IIRC the date doesn't even show up on the video originally released under the FOIA request. When it was added, by whom, and why the date is wrong, I've no idea.
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ULTIMA1	Oct 7 2009, 06:36 AM Post #154
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	HeadLikeARock Oct 7 2009, 06:02 AM If you want to believe that, fine, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There is no believing about it. The securuty video does not show a 757, plain and simple. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 7 2009, 06:37 AM.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 7 2009, 06:58 AM Post #155
Posts: 1,969 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	HeadLikeARock Oct 7 2009, 06:07 AM Re the wrong date, IIRC the date doesn't even show up on the video originally released under the FOIA request. When it was added, by whom, and why the date is wrong, I've no idea. to be fair the "original release" surfaced long before the foia version. the infamous '5 frames' with the wrong date was what we got first. if it had came after the foia then this anomaly could be brushed off a lot easier.
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Domenick DiMaggio	Oct 7 2009, 06:59 AM Post #156
Posts: 1,969 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: 01/14/08	ULTIMA1 Oct 7 2009, 06:36 AM HeadLikeARock Oct 7 2009, 06:02 AM If you want to believe that, fine, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There is no believing about it. The securuty video does not show a 757, plain and simple. i have to agree. if someone claims to see a 757 in that video then they better never make fun of anyone seeing jesus on a cracker or a face on mars.......
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ULTIMA1	Oct 7 2009, 09:45 AM Post #157
Posts: 183 Group: Members Member #1,188 Joined: 05/26/09	Domenick DiMaggio Oct 7 2009, 06:59 AM i have to agree. if someone claims to see a 757 in that video then they better never make fun of anyone seeing jesus on a cracker or a face on mars....... Some people have to live in a safe fantasy world so they have to beleive what they are told to see. Edited by ULTIMA1, Oct 7 2009, 09:46 AM.
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JFK	Oct 7 2009, 10:45 AM Post #158
Posts: 4,150 Group: Admins Member #108 Joined: 01/17/08	Domenick DiMaggio Oct 7 2009, 06:59 AM ULTIMA1 Oct 7 2009, 06:36 AM HeadLikeARock Oct 7 2009, 06:02 AM If you want to believe that, fine, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There is no believing about it. The securuty video does not show a 757, plain and simple. i have to agree. if someone claims to see a 757 in that video then they better never make fun of anyone seeing jesus on a cracker or a face on mars....... Or a "pod" attached to flight 175.
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monte585	Nov 7 2009, 09:14 PM Post #159
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #1,463 Joined: 11/07/09	New to the board i have been looking at the video from the double tree hotel there is clearly some type of aircraft tilting downward to the right before the fire and smoke. but it does not add up that aircraft clearly was not on a head on direct course as they stated when it entered it either tilted and release a missle and flew over or the video is fabricated. a plane of that size can not possibly bank and dive in three seconds at 300-500 miles but in the pentagon video it shows smoke and something a couple of feet off the ground. At first glance it looks like a semi but its some type of aircraft that looks to fly over after.
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monte585	Nov 7 2009, 09:17 PM Post #160
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #1,463 Joined: 11/07/09	this is the video i am looking at if you look you see the aircraft looks like a semi it goes out of view for half a sec but reappears and fly over after the fire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H285_DWX_bQ Edited by monte585, Nov 7 2009, 09:18 PM.
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Aldo Marquis CIT	Nov 9 2009, 12:18 PM Post #161
Posts: 1,642 Group: Members Member #13 Joined: 01/14/08	I agree with you. That's what it appears to be to me as well. However, they try and blame it on a semi: Maybe the video is edited, maybe it is not. It seems to be inconclusive to people when showing the flyover. Edited by Aldo Marquis CIT, Nov 9 2009, 12:18 PM.
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Miragememories	Nov 9 2009, 01:53 PM Post #162
Posts: 753 Group: Members Member #40 Joined: 01/15/08	A good quality reference image showing a similar angle of view would be helpful. I've looked through my library of images and can't find anything looking towards the Pentagon from the Doubletree location. My current video analysis is quite intriguing, but without a good reference image I hate to present what would likely be seen as nothing more than a confusing series of cropped closeups. Any links to a ground level image of the Pentagon as viewed from the Doubletree parking lot would be appreciated. MM
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Djeminy	Nov 9 2009, 10:48 PM Post #163
Posts: 11 Group: Members Member #940 Joined: 11/15/08	Miragememories Nov 9 2009, 01:53 PM A good quality reference image showing a similar angle of view would be helpful. I've looked through my library of images and can't find anything looking towards the Pentagon from the Doubletree location. My current video analysis is quite intriguing, but without a good reference image I hate to present what would likely be seen as nothing more than a confusing series of cropped closeups. Any links to a ground level image of the Pentagon as viewed from the Doubletree parking lot would be appreciated. MM We had this topic discussed one year ago on ATS: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread414097/pg1 I still got no doubt the 'white object' seen in the videos is the fly-over plane. It is visible abovethe roof top of the pentagon (which is hidden by the highway). And seeing that the explosion takes place a second after the 'white object' disappears again, makes it impossible for this to be the cause of the ensuing explosion.
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monte585	Nov 10 2009, 12:08 PM Post #164
Posts: 3 Group: Members Member #1,463 Joined: 11/07/09	Also i was just looking at a fox new report less than five minutes after the attack the had a live shot of the pentagon from a cam that looks to be high up on building or a pentagon parking lot cam. I would like to know how did it not record the (plane) it was pointed right towards the building http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOflyabs0_w Edited by monte585, Nov 10 2009, 12:09 PM.
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weasel_turbine	Nov 10 2009, 09:32 PM Post #165
Posts: 60 Group: Members Member #810 Joined: 08/21/08	monte585 Nov 10 2009, 12:08 PM Also i was just looking at a fox new report less than five minutes after the attack the had a live shot of the pentagon from a cam that looks to be high up on building or a pentagon parking lot cam. I would like to know how did it not record the (plane) it was pointed right towards the building http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOflyabs0_w Was it an automated camera already in place? Or was it a camera that somebody positioned and turned on after the attack? My guess is on the second. The view seems to be too high up to be useful for security purposes. Does anybody know exactly where the camera was located?
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