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Where Are The People?; Where Are The People?
Topic Started: Aug 31 2009, 12:23 PM (561 Views)
AR10
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I am in 100% belief that no Jumbo Jet Plane hit the Pentagon. The proof just does not support such a conclusion.

No aircraft seats.
No bodies.
No tail section.
No landing gear.
No damage consistent with a large plane hitting a building.

Bits and pieces amounting to less than 1% of a plane is not proof any plane hit the Pentagon.

Damage consistent with a bunker busting bomb striking a many times over reinforced concrete building suggest something other than a Jumbo Plane hit the structure.

If so many of us are correct and flight 77 did not strike the Pentagon, where is flight 77, and more importantly, where is the Captain, Crew and Passengers of flight 77?

The Government can never back down on this, as they have innocent lives to account for. Because they will never change their story, we will always be the nut cases, until we can show the missing people. If we can find the people, that will break this wide open. Until then, we have no credibility as a truth movement.

I want the truth, I expect the truth, I can accept no less.

We need people inside this thing to come forward and tell us what went on that day and to end this so we can heal and go forward.
Edited by AR10, Aug 31 2009, 12:55 PM.
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darion
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The people on that plane most likely died before or shortly after something hit the pentagon. Ever heard of CDC. All it takes is someone to make a call to the pilots bring it too a new airport and off load all the people into a enclosed area to give them injections. And no one would think it would be strange. It happens some times. That is one idea on what happened. And don’t give me the "Too many people would be in on it to keep it quiet!" crap. Even the people handing out the injections may not even know what’s going on. Why tell them what flight number it was. Or give them any information other that they should do their job. That way only a very few at the top would be the ones to have the full scope of the plan. And if anyone starts to snoop around there’s always bound to be accidents. As for the plane even I don’t have a theory on that. All they need to do is distroy it some how.
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darion
Aug 31 2009, 04:40 PM
All it takes is someone to make a call to the pilots bring it too a new airport and off load all the people into a enclosed area to give them injections. And no one would think it would be strange. It happens some times.
It happens sometimes does it?

Would you care to list just ONE time when a plane has been diverted, the people offloaded into an enclosed area and then given injections?

This is preposterous.
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Frank Spinatra
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darion
Aug 31 2009, 04:40 PM
The people on that plane most likely died before or shortly after something hit the pentagon. Ever heard of CDC. All it takes is someone to make a call to the pilots bring it too a new airport and off load all the people into a enclosed area to give them injections. And no one would think it would be strange. It happens some times. That is one idea on what happened. And don’t give me the "Too many people would be in on it to keep it quiet!" crap. Even the people handing out the injections may not even know what’s going on. Why tell them what flight number it was. Or give them any information other that they should do their job. That way only a very few at the top would be the ones to have the full scope of the plan. And if anyone starts to snoop around there’s always bound to be accidents. As for the plane even I don’t have a theory on that. All they need to do is distroy it some how.
It happens some times.

Oh, it TOTALLY happens sometimes. Like when I was on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to Calgary and they ran out of peanuts. They took us all into the terminal and gave us injections so that we wouldn't demand an extra bag of peanuts! The only reason I remember it is because I have built up an immunity to those injections, just to be safe. (insert eyeroll here)

I came to this site to see what other people think about the events on and around September 11, 2001. I was definitely NOT expecting this.
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Frank Spinatra
Oct 13 2009, 05:14 PM
darion
Aug 31 2009, 04:40 PM
The people on that plane most likely died before or shortly after something hit the pentagon. Ever heard of CDC. All it takes is someone to make a call to the pilots bring it too a new airport and off load all the people into a enclosed area to give them injections. And no one would think it would be strange. It happens some times. That is one idea on what happened. And don’t give me the "Too many people would be in on it to keep it quiet!" crap. Even the people handing out the injections may not even know what’s going on. Why tell them what flight number it was. Or give them any information other that they should do their job. That way only a very few at the top would be the ones to have the full scope of the plan. And if anyone starts to snoop around there’s always bound to be accidents. As for the plane even I don’t have a theory on that. All they need to do is distroy it some how.
It happens some times.

Oh, it TOTALLY happens sometimes. Like when I was on an Air Canada flight from Vancouver to Calgary and they ran out of peanuts. They took us all into the terminal and gave us injections so that we wouldn't demand an extra bag of peanuts! The only reason I remember it is because I have built up an immunity to those injections, just to be safe. (insert eyeroll here)

I came to this site to see what other people think about the events on and around September 11, 2001. I was definitely NOT expecting this.
AR10 asked a valid question.

Darion is putting forth an hypothesis.

Flights are grounded or delayed for a variety of reasons, the oddest I've encountered being: "We are awaiting our shipment of lemon soaked paper napkins. In the mean time, there will be short delay," and the passengers were put into suspended animation, to be woken once every hundred years to be served coffee and biscuits.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, the plane could have been grounded due to a simulated fault "induced" through the telemetry computer system. Either way, there are a significant number of bodies that should have left enough organic debris, and at least a few seats to make it look authentic.

So what do you think happened to the passengers?
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JFK
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I could be wrong, but honestly I suspect that it was just another drive by trolling, and we will never see him/her/it again.
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AR10 stopped posting here because he felt I was mean to him.
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Flippy
Oct 14 2009, 02:38 PM
AR10 stopped posting here because he felt I was mean to him.
I was referring to Frank Spinatra.
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Flippy

o sry
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Frank Spinatra
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I apologize to darion. I never meant to hurt anyone's feelings. Now that I read it again, his hypothesis really is well thought-out and...nope still can't keep a straight face when I say that.

Really though, I apologize if my eye-rolling offended anyone.
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That being said, I am quite interested to see what people think happened that day. I chalked it up to simple terrorism at first because I could plainly see 2 planes hitting enormous office buildings, and then they collapsed. I'm not an engineer, so I think, hey, I guess that would probably happen.

Even after watching Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 I was skeptical about anything other than straight-forward terrorism. But I have seen enough now to know that questions definitely need to be asked and answered.
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I agree AR10. What's really pathetic is the bunch of misleading information or scientific facts that they come up with. This one is from the Popular Mechanics 911 Debunking webpage: "says ASCE team member Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering at Purdue University. In this case, one wing hit the ground; the other was sheared off by the force of the impact with the Pentagon's load-bearing columns, explains Sozen, who specializes in the behavior of concrete buildings. What was left of the plane flowed into the structure in a state closer to a liquid than a solid mass." Huh? A plane hits a concrete wall and turns into liquid?? Really? In what universe? So in essence the plane was traveling so fast that it liquified, and it SPLASHED onto the building, but the aluminum nose of the plane must have turned into titanium just before it hit because it punched a hole through the other side of those 9' thick steel reinforced concrete walls. Ok, now I get it.
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Welcome to the forum johnfq41. :)

You are however incorrect about the 9 foot thick walls.

The first two stories of the Pentagon in that section were joined between the C and E rings as can be seen from the following diagrams, which originated from
http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200318.html
Strangely that file was corrupt when I checked it last week. :-/

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Edit to add - The walls were not concrete either, they were and still are limestone due to it being a historical building...

A pic of the renovation work from inside prior to 911 :

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An interesting read may be found here - http://web.archive.org/web/20070416230921/http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=1636
And the slideshow which goes with that - http://209.85.62.24/18/3/0/p203801/Lee_Evey_slides.pdf
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ULTIMA1

The problem i have is with the bodies all being found inside the building.

If all the passengers were moved to the back of the plane by the hijackers and the plane did not make it all the way into the building then some of not most of the bodies should have been found outside the building.
Edited by ULTIMA1, Nov 5 2009, 04:29 AM.
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ULTIMA1
Nov 5 2009, 04:25 AM
The problem i have is with the bodies all being found inside the building.

If all the passengers were moved to the back of the plane by the hijackers and the plane did not make it all the way into the building then some of not most of the bodies should have been found outside the building.
I kinda agree....

If the above diagram of the first floor ( above ) was accurate you would expect to see something ( a hand or a foot ) in

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200031.html

or

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/prosecution/P200032.html

:hmmm:
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